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by vinteuil
Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:25 am
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: Announcement: Penn Bowl 2018
Replies: 20
Views: 7458

Re: Announcement: Penn Bowl 2018

I think it would be preferable to have more playoff games so teams have more games against closely match opponents. I understand your hands were probably tied by having 38 teams, but I think the prelim/playoff balance should be more of a consideration. The crossover playoff was a little disappointi...
by vinteuil
Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:50 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Where Stats Go
Replies: 13
Views: 2559

Re: Where Stats Go

I was reminded this weekend that last year' s Penn Bowl Northeast stats are only available on Neg5. This is inexcusable. We as a community have committed to maintaining the stats repository on hsquizbowl.org precisely because 3rd party/external sources do, and have gone down in the past. (Stats fro...
by vinteuil
Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:20 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Where Stats Go
Replies: 13
Views: 2559

Re: Where Stats Go

I was reminded this weekend that last year' s Penn Bowl Northeast stats are only available on Neg5. This is inexcusable. We as a community have committed to maintaining the stats repository on hsquizbowl.org precisely because 3rd party/external sources do, and have gone down in the past. (Stats from...
by vinteuil
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:39 pm
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: Announcement: Penn Bowl 2018
Replies: 20
Views: 7458

Re: Announcement: Penn Bowl 2018

Thanks to Penn for hosting such a large tournament with basically no hitches! I was very impressed at the quality of the reader corps, for instance. I'm sure others will also have things to say about this, but I don't think that running 9 prelim rounds before lunch was a good idea. Everybody, especi...
by vinteuil
Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:09 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Introducing BPA, a new evaluation metric using detailed stats
Replies: 6
Views: 1304

Re: Introducing BPA, a new evaluation metric using detailed stats

I think this might be the most precise (and intuitively useful) non-PATH-like stat we've ever had—thanks to Ryan for the computations and visualizations!
by vinteuil
Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:26 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Please codify eligibility restrictions for your novice tournament
Replies: 23
Views: 2269

Re: Please codify eligibility restrictions for your novice tournament

I do wonder what the expectations on the hosts are, however. Last year, I believe we sent out the eligibility rules to the teams and mostly relied on them to enforce the rules. Are hosts required to search every player on rosters in the hsqb database and on naqt, or can attending teams be relied up...
by vinteuil
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:31 pm
Forum: Scheduling reform
Topic: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?
Replies: 13
Views: 2155

Re: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?

If I posted in this thread about an "open tournament" and it turned out to be a trash tournament or some vanity set, I think it would be pretty fair to call that misrepresentation, and I think people would reasonably question my motives for withholding such a core element of the set from the get-go....
by vinteuil
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:25 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous High School Quizbowl
Topic: IQBTee Shirts
Replies: 12
Views: 1328

Re: IQBTee Shirts

Thanks to everyone for the feedback. These shirts have already been ordered. This being the first time I've ordered with Custom Ink, I'm not sure what their policy is on changing designs. The "fifteen" design was too clever by half. I've requested that they change it to read "girl (*) power" to avo...
by vinteuil
Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:06 pm
Forum: Scheduling reform
Topic: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?
Replies: 13
Views: 2155

Re: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?

It will be packet submission, but with computers helping to write the questions. (Similar to our experimental round at PACE in June.) Now I'm curious why you weren't more forthright about what is clearly the animating premise of the set. Instead, you chose to advertize an experimental set that's pr...
by vinteuil
Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Scheduling reform
Topic: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?
Replies: 13
Views: 2155

Re: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?

Er, who's writing it?
by vinteuil
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:42 pm
Forum: Scheduling reform
Topic: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?
Replies: 13
Views: 2155

Re: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?

ezubaric wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:25 pm
We'll be announcing soon an open tournament for December that is open to high school teams, college teams, grizzled veterans, and computers.
...who is "we"?
by vinteuil
Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Counterpoint: Sets and stats should be released immediately
Replies: 7
Views: 1581

Re: Counterpoint: Sets and stats should be released immediately

How would you feel about editors publicly stating that anybody who played/can prove that they are not going to play the set can email them for a copy as it currently stands? (This already being the policy for every set I've encountered for at least the past 5 years.)
by vinteuil
Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:33 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Counterpoint: Sets and stats should be released immediately
Replies: 7
Views: 1581

Re: Counterpoint: Sets and stats should be released immediately

This is sort of like responding to "don't steal cars" with "Counterpoint: driving is good." Your overall point is of course good (I agree with Mike that releasing sets IMMEDIATELY isn't like, necessary—what urgently depends on it?), and it's good to have people amplifying Alston's excellent post abo...
by vinteuil
Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:37 pm
Forum: Scheduling reform
Topic: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?
Replies: 13
Views: 2155

Re: Fall 2018 Open Tournament?

by vinteuil
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:51 am
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: ANNOUNCEMENT: 2019 PIANO/Minnesota Open
Replies: 7
Views: 1494

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: 2019 PIANO/Minnesota Open

Length caps are now given in the announcement. (For the record, CO included no 11 line tossups and relatively few of 10 lines.)
by vinteuil
Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:14 pm
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: ANNOUNCEMENT: 2019 PIANO/Minnesota Open
Replies: 7
Views: 1494

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: 2019 PIANO/Minnesota Open

Some quick clarifications: "Ancient history": this is loosely defined on purpose, allowing us to balance subdistributions as needed. In any event, it's meant to be a global subdistribution with fairly broad chronological boundaries (e.g. it will encompass "Classical" cultures like early imperial Chi...
by vinteuil
Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:26 pm
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: ANNOUNCEMENT: 2019 PIANO/Minnesota Open
Replies: 7
Views: 1494

ANNOUNCEMENT: 2019 PIANO/Minnesota Open

I'm delighted to announce PIANO : Pre-ICT and ACF Nationals Open (Minnesota Open), for mirrors in March 2019. I (Jacob Reed) will be head-editing the set, with other writers and editors including Sam Bailey, Michael Borecki, Stephen Eltinge, Jason Golfinos, Matt Jackson, Wonyoung Jang, Michael Kearn...
by vinteuil
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:30 pm
Forum: National Tournaments
Topic: 2018 HSNCT discussion
Replies: 91
Views: 12038

Re: 2018 HSNCT discussion

The question needs to say or imply "most commonly illustrated with" or "classic example of." These clues always run the risk of making such sheer fluke negs: indeed, the bet you make as a writer of this kind of clue is that the proportion of people learning the canonical example is sufficiently hig...
by vinteuil
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:17 pm
Forum: National Tournaments
Topic: 2018 HSNCT discussion
Replies: 91
Views: 12038

Re: 2018 HSNCT discussion

Regardless of what the rules / correctness guidelines say (and they seem clear to me) I think this particular instance is a good illustration of an interesting philosophical problem with quizbowl questions in general. Let us postulate a player Bob, who has done balance puzzles with pills and only p...
by vinteuil
Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:26 am
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/13-14/2019
Replies: 18
Views: 3870

Re: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/13-14/2019

Sure, I can be more explicit in that I'm a church organist.
by vinteuil
Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/13-14/2019
Replies: 18
Views: 3870

Re: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/13-14/2019

After internal discussions, we have moved the date of Nationals one final time to the weekend of April 13th and 14th to make it easier for us to recruit the highest quality staff. We apologize for any inconvenience. Do you mind sharing more about this decision process? I'm having a hard time believ...
by vinteuil
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:24 pm
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/13-14/2019
Replies: 18
Views: 3870

Re: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/13-14/2019

I did not make the final decision for the date of ACF Nationals, but April 27-28 is the date of NHBB Nationals. NHBB Nationals monopolizes a lot of staff. I supposed I'd be interested in seeing exactly how much overlap there is between the two staffer bases; I'd heard talk that it wasn't as big as ...
by vinteuil
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/13-14/2019
Replies: 18
Views: 3870

Re: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/13-14/2019

After internal discussions, we have moved the date of Nationals one final time to the weekend of April 13th and 14th to make it easier for us to recruit the highest quality staff. We apologize for any inconvenience. Do you mind sharing more about this decision process? I'm having a hard time believ...
by vinteuil
Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:34 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Survey Texts and Other Resources List
Replies: 1
Views: 654

Survey Texts and Other Resources List

Hi everyone, I think I've reached a point where my list of good, quizbowl-relevant survey texts, anthologies, reference works, and online resources at least touches on every major quizbowl topic. So, I'd like to share it here, with the understanding that it is presumably woefully incomplete and pret...
by vinteuil
Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:48 pm
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/13-14/2019
Replies: 18
Views: 3870

Re: ACF Nationals 2019 - 4/20-21/19

Have those organizing nationals considered that placing it on both Easter and the first two days of Passover will have adverse effects on attendance and competitiveness?
by vinteuil
Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:04 am
Forum: Quizbowl History Forum
Topic: Fuck it, let's rank the sets
Replies: 28
Views: 3560

Re: Fuck it, let's rank the sets

- I think the best Nats since 2012 is actually ACF Nats 2015. 2014, 2017, and 2018 attract a lot of attention because of the assertive philosophical underpinnings of their editors' questions. But I thought the general execution of 2015 across the tournament displayed the best control (finals packet...
by vinteuil
Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:38 pm
Forum: Quizbowl History Forum
Topic: Fuck it, let's rank the sets
Replies: 28
Views: 3560

Re: Fuck it, let's rank the sets

rylltraka wrote:As someone who doesn't really have a lot to add to this discussion, but was interested, I found it rather difficult to find the previous thread on this topic (addressing 2010-2012 or so; I did eventually find it). Might be just me.
I literally linked to it in the first clause of my post.
by vinteuil
Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:17 pm
Forum: Quizbowl History Forum
Topic: Fuck it, let's rank the sets
Replies: 28
Views: 3560

Re: Fuck it, let's rank the sets

This should make us wonder whether we've gotten to the point where the community at large is markedly better at writing than it is at editing, and whether we should self-examine why that is and how to alter that. I'd love to see you expand on this. I'd think that the difference comes from housewrit...
by vinteuil
Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:23 pm
Forum: Quizbowl History Forum
Topic: Fuck it, let's rank the sets
Replies: 28
Views: 3560

Re: Fuck it, let's rank the sets

Banana Stand wrote:TTIAC and Stanford Housewrite were both better than CMST.
The science in Stanford Housewrite had a lot of problems; TTIAC and CMST were both more consistent in that regard.
by vinteuil
Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: Quizbowl History Forum
Topic: Fuck it, let's rank the sets
Replies: 28
Views: 3560

Fuck it, let's rank the sets

As Jonathan Suh recently pointed out , we haven't done this in forever, and it's actually a highly valuable exercise. (How else will posterity know what to read first?) I'm not going to produce a numerical ranking here, and I'm not going to plug any sets I've worked on (although I think 2014 Fall an...
by vinteuil
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: When do questions "belong" to a set?
Replies: 25
Views: 3667

Re: When do questions "belong" to a set?

This is a great question to ask, Jacob. But I wish it had been asked with names redacted so that the specific personalities involved wouldn't mask the larger, more important issues. Naveed (personal communication): "There's nothing worse than "hypothetical" threads that are clearly about a specific...
by vinteuil
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:08 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: When do questions "belong" to a set?
Replies: 25
Views: 3667

Re: When do questions "belong" to a set?

I think if this thread was really meant to answer the question being posed, there was no reason to go through the specifics. On the other hand, if the events of the tournament production deserve a broader analysis, then maybe they should have been. But in that case, I think the OP should have been ...
by vinteuil
Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:26 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: When do questions "belong" to a set?
Replies: 25
Views: 3667

Re: When do questions "belong" to a set?

This is a great question to ask, Jacob. But I wish it had been asked with names redacted so that the specific personalities involved wouldn't mask the larger, more important issues. Naveed (personal communication): "There's nothing worse than "hypothetical" threads that are clearly about a specific...
by vinteuil
Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: When do questions "belong" to a set?
Replies: 25
Views: 3667

Re: When do questions "belong" to a set?

I think there are some important details missing from the account presented here, which factor into the justifiability of the actions taken. If Eliza produced questions under the explicit understanding that Eric would not be involved in the production of the set, then I think she would be well just...
by vinteuil
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:42 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: When do questions "belong" to a set?
Replies: 25
Views: 3667

Re: When do questions "belong" to a set?

I'm curious what kind of "rights" you mean. In a legal sense, unless writers are operating under a formal work-for-hire contract, they are probably the copyright holders of their questions and have the right to withdraw them and publish them elsewhere as they see fit. In such a scenario, the editor...
by vinteuil
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: When do questions "belong" to a set?
Replies: 25
Views: 3667

When do questions "belong" to a set?

Near the end of production for this year’s CO, I encountered a situation that was new to me, and I realized that I don’t know of any standard community expectations regarding it. So I'd like to see what other people think, at least in the abstract. Late in the writing process, and with Auroni’s perm...
by vinteuil
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

Re: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

I think the Tienanmen Square tossup is probably a good example of a tossup that, in many rooms, played as six or seven lines of an art tossup that no one got, followed by a very short history tossup on Tienanmen Square (at the mention of the Goddess of Democracy statue). I don't doubt that there ar...
by vinteuil
Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:25 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Chicago Open 2018 Thanks and Discussion
Replies: 37
Views: 3994

Re: Chicago Open 2018 Thanks and Discussion

I don't see why we can't have mixed questions with western and non-western art - people do learn about both separately, but I think integrating world art into more standard tossups could be a good compromise between the current movement and playability. For example, the violin in Indian music tossu...
by vinteuil
Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:30 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

Re: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

I should have pointed out the specific thing that jumped out at me: the top Met museum exhibit on Old Masters painting (in fact, most of the exhibitions listed) got far fewer visits than its Chinese art show. Ah, I see. For what it's worth, I agree that we should be writing more questions on Han an...
by vinteuil
Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

Re: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

The same goes for floor space at museums. Having been to many, many art museums I can say with confidence that the concentration of museumgoers gravitates heavily toward western art. It doesn’t mean much for a museum to have half its floor space devoted to Asian or African art if that floor space i...
by vinteuil
Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

Re: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

The same goes for floor space at museums. Having been to many, many art museums I can say with confidence that the concentration of museumgoers gravitates heavily toward western art. It doesn’t mean much for a museum to have half its floor space devoted to Asian or African art if that floor space i...
by vinteuil
Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:47 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

Re: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

Can I see the Bunuel tossup? I remember at game speed having to recognize that this was about Bunuel's Mexican period to be somewhat tricky. I knew The Exterminating Angel was made in Mexico, but the film is also commonly interpreted as a metaphor about Franco Spain, for example. At the end of a sh...
by vinteuil
Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:25 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

Re: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

Two disconnected thoughts: 1. few people actually study nonwestern art in the real world. For example, this semester at OU there are 25 art history classes offered, only one of which is a nonwestern art class. As someone who believes that quizbowl ought to roughly track the academy, I think that thi...
by vinteuil
Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:47 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

Re: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

Andrew, I don’t disagree with your post, and it helpfully diagnoses a big part of the frustrafion from the set—thanks. But your argument cuts both ways. “Art is made in a historical and cultural context, therefore we can ask about it as history and human culture” seems just as good as “Historical an...
by vinteuil
Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

Re: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

The violin in India question seemed to vex people, and someone in my room negged with an Indian instrument. I don't see why the whole question needed to be about just the violin in India - perhaps another use for it in a different culture? Violins are probably the most-used and iconic melody instru...
by vinteuil
Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:40 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

Re: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

Will and I just had a pleasant chat, and it seems like we're on the same page—the majority of his post is very fair, and I'll be bearing his thoughts in mind in the future. I have a few quibbles and one larger points, which I'll preface in bold . Quibble: I didn't think the Great Zimbabwe question w...
by vinteuil
Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:27 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 3279

CO 2018 Arts: Apology and discussion

So, I’ve heard from a number of people (particularly experienced quizbowl arts specialists) that the "world art" content didn’t, from a playability standpoint, come off so well. I can only apologize for that.* Knowing the intense outside-of-qb interest many quizbowlers (including almost all of these...
by vinteuil
Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:21 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Chicago Open 2018 Thanks and Discussion
Replies: 37
Views: 3994

Re: Chicago Open 2018 Thanks and Discussion

Hi everyone! Two posts incoming. I’ll put an apology for how the arts played out in a separate thread, because I suspect it’ll generate a lot of responses; moreover, I’ll be away for a family birthday over the next few days and thus won’t be hovering over these threads—that's probably a good thing. ...
by vinteuil
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:16 am
Forum: Collegiate Announcements & Results
Topic: Chicago Open 2018 - July 21st weekend
Replies: 88
Views: 24502

Re: Chicago Open 2018 - July 21st weekend

Jonah, will you ever take the stats for this tournament and 2015 CO and have them uploaded to the main HSQB database?
by vinteuil
Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous High School Quizbowl
Topic: International Expansion of Quizbowl
Replies: 17
Views: 2556

Re: International Expansion of Quizbowl

Jacob, I have no idea who should be doing the work of contacting all the high schools, but I do know that if this does get taken up by a QB organization that I would be glad to assist in every way I can. And for the question of who will run the tournaments, maybe fly out a few organized directors f...