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by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:09 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: the quizbowl canon
Replies: 38
Views: 17892

Something I've noticed about the evolving canon - I've read pyramidal tossups from the early-mid 90s with the very first clue being something that is now towards the end of a question simply because that clue has become ingrained in quizbowl since those questions were asked.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:11 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

I should mention that that moderator mentioned was actually being awful and dictatorial. No protests, no remotely alternate answers (ie Carrie Meeber for sister carrie), and not being good in general. But that doesn't change the rest.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:05 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

Chris, if you want DACQ to write for Missouri format (which as David mentions, can be a real mess), you need to act quick, because this is a year when they make contracts. I think it's at the Ad Co meeting in May when they discuss some of this stuff. I will mention if you have cheap prices it will i...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:14 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

Didn't he use to write for PACE?

Before PACE was at the level it's at now?
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:10 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

Here's what Avery responded to Brandon Thomas from Mound City with after Brandon alleged that Tarkio was rigging conference played on Avery questions: As this year's vendor, we take the incidents mentioned with Tarkio (and Purdy in a previous topic) very seriously. I have contacted the people at Tar...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:59 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

I should note MACA does not pick question providers. It's 100% MSHSAA. Quizbowl came under MSHSAA's control when a bunch of administrators voted to unify it under one organization that controls most other competitive activities. I guess it's just an easier package for them. The problem is that MSHSA...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:18 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

This post will be a repeat of what people have already said (with a few extra things added in), but it was my gut reaction just to reading your post before I read everybody else's response. 3) Missouri seems to have more immature smart-aleck HS players per capita than any other state in the country...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:55 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: NAQT ICT 2007 discussion
Replies: 127
Views: 59350

I'm curious, what was the actual Lippizaner/Spanish riding school bonus?
Because I do actually know things about them and don't think they are too out there.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:44 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

As for MACA, it still ultimately represents Missouri's attitude, as most members of MACA (including higher officials) express disgust for NAQT and related formats. The only schools that really leap to mind as liking pyramidal formats are us, Liberty, Ladue, Smithville, Savannah, maybe Clayton, WCA b...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:28 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

I'll point out the pet topics I've noticed through reading various Avery sets. - The state of Utah or things in it. - 19th Century American Literature, especially Hawthorne (and Rappacini's Daughter) - Things occuring in the year before the questions were played. - The Forsyte Saga - A Hans Christia...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:53 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

Mr. Egan, did this happen to be Avery? Bryce Avery I know wrote for Masonic in 2003, and does other tournaments there. I know that "most hated coach in Illinois" accused Aegis of plagiarizing him because some of the same topics came up. I know he uses the board as bdavery and has been acti...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:07 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

That final was really good. This year it is in many ways an honor to say we've beaten Liberty because they are REALLY GOOD. They got screwed out of a chance to do really well at state (I'm pretty sure we already played the state championship game on Saturday in all but name). I'm especially frustrat...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:38 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: RESULTS: MSHSAA District and State Championships
Replies: 5
Views: 6151

Here are the results from districts on Saturday. Class One D1: Bradleyville 260 - Saxony Lutheran 150 D2: Thomas Jefferson IDS 305 - Lockwood 210 D3: Weaubleau 185 - St. Elizabeth 165 D4: Glasgow 230 - Chamois 210 D5: Kansas City Lutheran 225 - Tina-Avalon 190 D6: North Shelby 235 - Princeton 140 D7...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:41 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: TV Tournament Question
Replies: 8
Views: 3508

naqt.com
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:40 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Favorite Quiz Bowl related movie/series/episode
Replies: 39
Views: 17792

Oh, I got banned from the missouri board today. it was funny. What!? Where was that? In the All-Purpose districts thread, in response to Coleman Mitchell's last response. Brandon then posted his response seconds after Bill deleted my post. I dropped a few swear words and called Coleman a retard, am...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:18 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Favorite Quiz Bowl related movie/series/episode
Replies: 39
Views: 17792

Wasn't Olga the hot sister? Helga was a hardcore beezy, but I emulate her because I have a gum statue of Chris Ray in my closet with some candles and love notes.

Oh, I got banned from the missouri board today. it was funny.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:20 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Favorite Quiz Bowl related movie/series/episode
Replies: 39
Views: 17792

What about the episode of Golden Girls when Bea Arthur tries out for Jeopardy? Bea Arthur is hott.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:22 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Value of state championships?
Replies: 63
Views: 23580

Re: Vermont

Vermont's such a small state that we're not going to produce serious national championship contenders wherever we go What a silly mentality. If you're never going to try and be competitive, you're never going to be competitive. And I really fail to see why Vermont being a small state has anything t...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:23 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Quiz Bowl For Life (5/20/07) at Hanover HS (Hanover, NH)
Replies: 4
Views: 3286

I like the idea, but I must comment that the wording is kinda corny. I know I would scream if someone called me a quizmaster when I moderate.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:21 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Team Virginia @ Panasonic
Replies: 12
Views: 4406

In Missouri the coaches association pays for about half and the individual students pay for their remaining $250 (it might be a little more now because we need an extra room for a girl). So it's pretty reasonable for us. I (a) agree that Panasonic is not real quizbowl (but I'll still do it if it mea...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:54 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

The Missouri poll came out, based on the moderators of the Missouri board. It's also sparked some discussion there, but here's what it is: Based more on best teams not where you will finish at state. As always open to talk but make sure you provide reason why you believe in that team. If you would l...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:28 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Swiss Pairs Discussion (split from National Tournaments)
Replies: 21
Views: 9059

But there probably is no feasible way to have 76 games going simultaneously in one place, which would be what has to happen if no one gets byes. Think about that for a minute before people get in a "I hate byes" fest.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:14 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: 2007 Pre-Nationals National Poll Results
Replies: 66
Views: 27179

As for talk of regional bias, I don't actually think there's a lot of that in these results. Based on results from tournaments this year, it's pretty clear Governor's is the best team. It's also clear that the top 5 will include Richard M. and State College. Based on tourney results. I would be real...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:50 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

It's so totally NOT related to swear words.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:50 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: 2007 Pre-Nationals National Poll Results
Replies: 66
Views: 27179

Ditto for Stuyvesant 18. But I guess you were being humble.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:48 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

Fook that sheet, main.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:43 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

It should. Too bad a lot of it's going to be buzzer races or crappy questions, as opposed to questions that consistently test depth.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:37 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Chicago Open; also, possible HSNCT-coincident college event
Replies: 43
Views: 19192

If this is masters-y then could groups of high schoolers form teams that aren't necessarily all from 1 school?
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:25 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Chicago Open; also, possible HSNCT-coincident college event
Replies: 43
Views: 19192

If possible, I'm all for making it a college-level tournament (between ACF fall and regionals, say). I think there are some high schoolers who could do some pretty good packets. Maybe there could be a combined friday/Saturday event (have some prelims friday night, and playoffs saturday night).
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:58 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Chicago Open; also, possible HSNCT-coincident college event
Replies: 43
Views: 19192

I know I would love for their to be some kind of solo or duo tournament at the HSNCT, and I think that would be a really good idea because so many good players and teams from HS are there, so we could all try to get our feet wet in the college circuit. Of course it wouldn't be affiliated with CO, bu...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:20 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: 2007 Pre-Nationals National Poll Results
Replies: 66
Views: 27179

It looks PRETTY!!!!!
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:54 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: National Poll Time
Replies: 20
Views: 10802

Troy and Novi.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:53 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

Although yes there is no standard definition, there is a sort of gentleman's agreement on it, which I can get more into later.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:53 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

Yeah, because the boards are everybody in quizbowl. I heard a lot of other people (both on and off the boards) complain about it. But I think you're missing the point that Junior Varsity is exactly that: JUNIOR VARSITY. Not varsity, no matter how young you are. Now, if the tournament were advertised...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:18 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

Actually, in Misosuri I know a lot of people (coaches and players) who were bothered by Ravi playing.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:59 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

JV state was held at Marshall HS this weekend. It used Triple Q questions (blegh) and split itself into large and small school divisions. Large school results: 1. Kirksville (by 5 points) 2. Liberty 3. Truman 4. Marshall I know the small school champ was Savannah, although i'm unsure of the other pl...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:51 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: NAQT Asian Championship?
Replies: 2
Views: 2099

I would figure it'd bomb, especially because at some point NAQT opened it up to teams from anywhere in the world (including America) which they wouldn't have had to do were there interest. On a related note I noticed the NAQT High School champ doesn't get a trip to Japan this year. <sarcasm>Hmm, won...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:56 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: RESULTS! Patriot Games at George Mason University (3/31/07)
Replies: 98
Views: 34561

After playing a Vanderbilt tournament, I would have to say it would take some drastic decrease of effort to make the tossups notably not as good. I think the Vanderbilt team did an amazing job with the fall tournament.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:16 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Flights to Nationals & Quizbowl Travel Tips Thread
Replies: 10
Views: 5871

All I'm concerned about is if they have a great pool.

QUIZBOWL HOTTUB PARTY AT PACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:05 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Sending B-Teams?
Replies: 11
Views: 5004

That's just retarded to say "I'm not bring our B-team because they have no chance of winning the tournament." No sh*t. Your A team should be able to beat your B team.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:14 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Panasonic teams
Replies: 119
Views: 47995

I'll tell Mr. Allen, see what he says. Although I'd be down.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:57 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Panasonic teams
Replies: 119
Views: 47995

Team Missouri (I think it's about set, I'll edit if not):

John Ahlfield - Liberty
Terin Budine - Savannah
Charles Dees - North Kansas City
Stephanie Hull - Liberty
Nate Kinast - Thomas Jefferson IDS

--Edited to include Stephanie--
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:22 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: 2007 HSNCT Field is Full
Replies: 107
Views: 42542

I don't know what would be more conducive to having a really strong national competition: Just letting anybody who qualified no matter how weak they are go, as long as they registered first, or holding off and trying to piece through the teams that are obviously top notch and try to let them come fi...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:22 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Minnesota 2006-2007
Replies: 75
Views: 35032

But there's no NAQT Missouri state championship, so even if we win MSHSAA state we don't get the automatic spot. Plus there's an almost 50-50 chance we don't even make state.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:17 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Format discussion - round 204
Replies: 42
Views: 15571

And I fail to see the argument that people have about "as state approaches, we should do absolutely nothing but state format." That's bull. Playing most any format can help your team get better at any time. And also, I'm sure the best teams don't spend their free time between state and HSN...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:09 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Minnesota 2006-2007
Replies: 75
Views: 35032

I don't understand why people are getting the "you should have already qualified" attitude when they don't realize that, for instance, Missouri bans us from qualifying (even though we won an NAQT tournament) and going and is voting in May to possibly change it. So it's not as simple as &qu...
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:55 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: 2007 HSNCT Field is Full
Replies: 107
Views: 42542

Not to mention other teams who are just praying that a state organization votes to let them go to nationals, the results of the vote not being announced until May.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:04 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Minnesota 2006-2007
Replies: 75
Views: 35032

I'm sorry, Wayzata may be a great team, but you need to seriously reconsider bringing a C team to Nationals when there are lots of other, possibly better teams on the waiting list. I'm OK with 2 at this point, but not 3.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:42 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: RESULTS: WJIAT (3/24) @ Walter Johnson HS (Bethesda,MD)
Replies: 36
Views: 13647

I've made the point before on the Missouri forum, I think that the only award to really matter is the team trophy. Individual stats are pretty much meaningless for gauging quality.
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:00 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Missouri 2006-07
Replies: 128
Views: 68083

Last night the "Suburban Conference: Big 7" championships were held at Liberty HS. We all are the schools in the Suburban Conference (I know, vague name) that have the largest populations. There are 3 other divisions. The championships are determined by a round robin, and the team with the...

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