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The University of Louisville is hosting a mirror of MUT on April 26, and if you can get some people together it'd be a perfect introductory tournament for a new team. Check it out! - viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15612&p=276905#p276905

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Current field: 10 teams as of 4/22
House (1)
WKU (1)
Wright State University (1)
University of Kentucky (3)
Jefferson CC (3)
Purdue (1)

The field is now closed.

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This is the announcement for the University of Louisville mirror of the Minnesota Undergraduate Tournament that will be held on April 26, 2014. Information: Eligibility: Only undergraduate and high school students can play this tournament. If you are a grad student, you may not play. Difficulty: The...

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Also true, but in theory if users were acting in good faith it wouldn't matter.

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It uses the Elo system, so who you play matters as well. In this case, people have figured out how to exploit the system and choose specific matches, causing the rankings to be out of order.

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Well, since I have to wait for my database to come back online, what else would you like to see added? I've fixed the exploit that was used to screw up the ranking, and I've added Google/Facebook authentication to hopefully keep people honest. I'm a little torn on hiding rankings, because while it m...

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And also boot Claremont off the list. I'm assuming that that part's a joke, right? They're definitely not the worst team on the list. Sorry though. It's frustrating when trolls break nice things. Edit: Took down the whole provider? Forgive my stupid social-science-major question, but is that possib...

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Okay, either this is a strange coincidence, or they took down my web hosting provider as well.

Edit: No wait, I gave them too much credit. While they did destroy the rankings, it wasn't them who took down the site. My provider had a scheduled downtime from 11:00 - 12:00 EST tonight.

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I knew as soon as I posted this that it was only a matter of time until it went to shit.
Well, now that everyone's had their fun, looks like it's time to reset the rankings and add some security. And also boot Claremont off the list.

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I just sent you a list of all the schools that have entered an NAQT tournament this year for which we have results. Sweet! However, while setting that up, I made a realization - with that many teams, my purely random approach to generating matches would fail due to the staggeringly high number of s...

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This deployment was really just a Phase I proof of concept. By the end of the day I should be ready to deploy Phase II, which is more in line with what I believe are the goals of the original rating system - namely, records and ratings will be hidden until Mike Cheyne publishes his results, at which...

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theMoMA wrote:I think you're probably neutering the true wisdom of the crowd a little bit by having the current record display below each team. Relative independence of opinions is important to getting better data in this kind of ranking.

Yeah, I definitely noticed that, so that's gone now.

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Interestingly enough, there's already a strong showing of people not being aware of the strengths of teams in various regions, especially in the middle of the pack.

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While trying to rank my top 25 for Mike's midseason poll, I came upon a small problem - I'm really bad at ranking things in a list. To that end, I cobbled this little thing together. Presenting the creatively named PriyaRank ! While I had designed it to help me find my top 25, I realized that one pe...

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While there were a few things that I wanted to mention, one jumps out at me right now - Tossup 10 in the Dartmouth/Notre Dame packet ( art museums ) notes that Louis Kahn designed two of them for Yale, while Bonus 8 in the WUSTL/Columbia B/Berkeley packet asks for the answer of Yale by mentioning th...

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Could someone please post the epsilon tossup from what I believe was round 2? I negged with lambda before it was mentioned, and I believe that it should be acceptable in the first line of the question.

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The format was 20 Questions per round, with no worksheet and neither powers nor negs. Tossups 1-15 were worth 10 points each and they had no bonuses attached. Tossups 16-20 were worth 10 points each and they had standard 3-part bonuses attached without the chance for bounce-back. Oh good, because m...

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Ah, I knew the rules were a little weird, but not that weird. I guess they use like the old PACE format or something?

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As Alex mentioned, though A-sets have a habit of skewing stats a little, I found the following to be an interesting comparison, specifically the power percentage. Manual A at our tournament Dunbar A on the same set(albeit with silly rules) Maybe a premature comparison, but certainly interesting.

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You could always add four "bye" teams, do five rounds of swiss, and then rebracket to playoff brackets.

If you can get intermediate pairings posted moderately quickly, it should only add like a minute or two between rounds.

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All stats have been finalized, once again, link is:

http://kyquizbowl.org/Stats/ASC2013/

The "playoffs" stats represent the final standings.

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All games have been finalized and uploaded, only thing left is to fix playoff groups for rankings. Unfortunately, I might not get to that for a little while.

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shady jawn wrote:What set was used? Thanks

NAQT IS-129A

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Stats can be found here:

http://kyquizbowl.org/Stats/ASC2013/

Currently only the prelims are available, but that will change shortly

Edit - 4:39 Changed directory structure, link has changed

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Louisville will have definitely one, probably two teams at this site.

Edit - make that definitely two teams.

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Thanks to everyone that came out to this tournament, and congratulations to Manual A for going undefeated and clearing the field!

Full stats should be up shortly.

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This means we can go get the NCAA on board, right?

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Mewto55555 wrote:Obviously, the chances of the top 6 teams all making the top bracket increase dramatically when that bracket has 12 teams in it instead of 6.

I think that's the point they are using to state that the 12-team playoff bracket is superior.

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Any word on this set being released?

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Since we're going to start playing at dawn, hopefully this thing will be over with quickly. hahahahahaha I'm not really sure the decision to attempt a 9 team round robin in the Division II top bracket here was the best idea. Especially when there weren't enough packets to do so. There were enough p...

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Courvoisier Winetavius Richardson wrote:This seems fine, as we have too many trash tourneys cluttering up the schedule already.

There are?

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Will these packets be posted at some point in the near future?

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Is there any way that I could be e-mailed this set at [email protected]? I vaguely remember having a gripe about a question, but I can't seem to remember which one it was.

Edit: Thanks! That was fast!

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Could you also please list the alternate answers acceptable for the Sun Wukong question? Someone on our team said "the Monkey King" and it wasn't accepted, so I'm curious to know why. Monkey King was accepted from my teammate, so it might have been acceptable until a certain point in the ...

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Actually, we can field two teams.

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UofL would like to send one team. I tried to send an email to the address a few days ago, but no one responded.

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Is there any word on when this set will be cleared?

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I have to say - I really enjoyed this tournament, and the competition was great.

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Is this a mirror of the academic or trash?

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Is there some way that we can get a field update?

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So, I don't think that Uofl will be able to send teams - some of our members have other commitments, and we've having difficulties with travel arrangements.

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UofL is working on trying to bring a couple teams, but we're wondering - is there anyway we could see how the field stands?

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Manual is definitely gonna have 1 team for sure, possibly more (all Varsity)

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I kinda feel bad for Mr. Knupp. I know that what he did was wrong, but Quick Recall was his life. He was an excellent coach, and a very present personality, and his absence from the circuit will definitely be noticed. That being said, I'm pretty hopeful for State. Though I'm obviously biased towards...

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ARGH WHY ARE YOU GIVING AN ANSWER IN A POST ABOUT AN UPCOMING SET Dude, my bad. I fixed it. To avoid double posting, let me clarify my above post: I have good matches and bad matches, often in the same day, sometimes across tournaments. I know and have known people that were very inconsistent. But ...

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Faiyad, are people really going to remember individual bonuses? In any case, I feel like if we can push through this year, everyone who's left will be in great standing to have 2-3 awesome years for Manual. The future's gonna be exciting. It's times like these that makes me want to fail a grade or t...

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From reading at Vandy, I have to say that Johnson Central looked really impressive. I also thought that duPont Manual was pretty good. Their captain pulled off some amazing buzzes on the physics. If they can get a team to support him in non science areas, they have the potential to be a force. aww,...

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Because it is a serious topic that should be getting more attention, I will readdress (haha! a pun!) the issue:
Costumes. Needs to happen.

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(duPont) Manual will also be bringing 2-3 teams, all varsity if I am correct, but maybe one of them will be JV. I'll edit when I find out for sure.

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vandyhawk wrote:
quizbowllee wrote:Will there be costumes?
I can only think of few things in life that would be better than Halloween costumes at a quiz bowl tournament.

Does that mean that they will be present and used? If this happened, my life would be (almost) complete.

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