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During which of these (pick up to 4) could you attend Purdue Side Event Weekend?

July 6/7
7
35%
July 13/14
5
25%
July 27/28
4
20%
August 24/25
4
20%
 
Total votes: 20

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GAUGING INTEREST: Trash Side Events Weekend at Purdue?

Post by stanjast » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:04 pm

Hi all --

We'd like your feedback, please, on whether (and how many) people would be interested in playing a few smaller pop culture events in a June weekend at Purdue. Here are some things we'd be interested in hearing back from you on:

-- What weekends in June don't work (if any)?
-- Which of the following sound like the most fun:


1. Mirroring other trash sets already created, but that you haven't been able to play.

2. A buzzer-based "name that tune" tournament with each round comprised of popular music concerning a central theme (I've been doing these at game nights for friends and already have a bunch done).

3. A revival of a packet-submission, guerrilla-edited singles tournament, a la the Montgomery Burns tournament that Mike Burger used to host at Michigan each summer.

4. A revival of a tournament that blends Iowa's "This Tournament Goes to 11" format with Chicago's "Deep Bench" format. This is something we did one year at DePauw and people seemed to enjoy it. Basically, teams are comprised of four players, but each round they have two packets (TU only) to choose from. Teams may split their players 2-2 or 3-1, however they see fit, each round. So, for instance, in one round at DPU, teams had a choice that we cheekily termed "sex or chocolate?" -- players could choose to play a packet about chocolate or a round about Sex and the City (incidentally, some of the packets may be found here: http://trash.quizbowlpackets.com/1268/).

So if UIUC and Purdue were playing, they'd split their players and both the "chocolate" room and the "SATC" room would have a match between UIUC and Purdue. The scores for each room would then be tallied to determine an overall winner for that round. So if Purdue wins the chocolate match by 20 points, but UIUC wins the SATC match by 100 points, UIUC gets the win for that round.

This could be packet-sub, but seems like it'd work better if it were written by Purdue folks, which I think we could manage. Your thoughts on this encouraged.

5. Ideas I haven't yet mentioned.
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Post by Progcon » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:46 pm

While I am not opposed to playing alternative formats at events like this, I think I would prefer just playing some side events. There are a lot this year and it's going to be hard to fit them into one larger side event weekend (ala UIUC last year). If you guys want to run say 3 or 4 trash events, I would certainly drive down to Indiana.
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Post by Cheynem » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:58 pm

I think I'd be interested depending on what's being offered. I can't say I'm interested in a "name that tune" or TTGT11 thing, but existing events and a guerrilla thing might be fun.
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Post by ryanrosenberg » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:14 pm

I'd be interested in another side event weekend; as Harris points out, there are going to be more tournaments available than can fit into one weekend.

The only weekend I definitively can't do is June 8-9, as that's NSC weekend.
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Post by stanjast » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:50 pm

ryanrosenberg wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:14 pm
The only weekend I definitively can't do is June 8-9, as that's NSC weekend.
Good note -- thanks!
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Post by Cheynem » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:05 pm

I've been kind of not paying attention to what trash side events have been proposed for this summer: does anyone have a list?
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Post by John Ketzkorn » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:25 pm

We'll probably have players interested in coming to this -- provided it doesn't conflict with the Side Event weekend we were planning to host again (very likely to be August 10th-11th)
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Post by Cheynem » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:41 pm

Oof, the weekend after CO?
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Post by ryanrosenberg » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:22 pm

John Ketzkorn wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:25 pm
We'll probably have players interested in coming to this -- provided it doesn't conflict with the Side Event weekend we were planning to host again (very likely to be August 10th-11th)
Cheynem wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:41 pm
Oof, the weekend after CO?
Agreed, this will be rough to impossible to have work for many people.
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:07 pm

I too would very much like to come to a UIUC side event weekend again but would very much like it to not be the weekend after CO.
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Post by 1992 in spaceflight » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:51 pm

Auks Ran Ova wrote:
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I too would very much like to come to a UIUC side event weekend again but would very much like it to not be the weekend after CO.
I think having a week in between side event weekend and chicago open is a good idea. Is UIUC open to doing the 17-18 of August?
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Post by John Ketzkorn » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:12 pm

1992 in spaceflight wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:51 pm
Auks Ran Ova wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:07 pm
I too would very much like to come to a UIUC side event weekend again but would very much like it to not be the weekend after CO.
I think having a week in between side event weekend and chicago open is a good idea. Is UIUC open to doing the 17-18 of August?
I've made a new thread so this one can be more focused on Purdue's side event weekend.
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Post by Cheynem » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:33 pm

If Super ACRONYM doesn't end up at Purdue, there is that FOGEY trash set (although the quality of that was very hmm hmm last year). I also wouldn't mind doing a guerrilla trash event. This would be a good place for Harris' Mixtape set and for the surplus of other trash events that may not be played by everyone everywhere. If Purdue folks have the hankering to just write trash packets, I'd certainly play them as well. I'm not going to do my full on film set for this summer, but I'd certainly contribute a couple theme packets to something.
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Post by stanjast » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:00 am

Ok, it seems like Super ACRONYM is on its way to UIUC's weekend, so we'll rule that one out (but I look forward to playing it in C/U!).

I guess my thinking at the moment is that we could do a larger event (like the guerrilla-edited, packet sub singles event) on Saturday and then do smaller events on Sunday, so people can stick around as long as they want or head back at various times during the day. Does that work for people?

So Sunday could be Mixtape and another TU-only event or two...?
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Post by Cheynem » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:19 am

The basic idea makes sense; I'm all for going all in on these weekends (especially on Saturday)--perhaps after the main event on Saturday just some quick side events or even just theme packets.
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Post by stanjast » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:20 am

Another possibly fun thing to do if we move Purdue's weekend back to July 13-14 -- there's a college summer wooden bat baseball league that has a team in Lafayette now, and there's a game that Saturday night. They're enjoyable and relatively cheap, if people are looking to make a weekend of it here in town.
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Post by stanjast » Wed May 15, 2019 9:55 am

Word on the street is that UIUC's side event weekend is set for July 20/21 and will include both Super ACRONYM and MUSES, so that helps us plan our similar weekend.

So, which July/August weekend is best for people and what do you want to play?

Thanks to Mike Cheyne for compiling a list of possible side events. These are the ones that may not have been mirrored yet:

*Look at this Photograph (visual trash)
*Mixtape (popular music)
*The Unanswered Question (20th century fine arts)
*TUPAC (trash music listening)


Others that could work, but that have been mirrored elsewhere:
*Let's Remember Some Guys (sports)
*Fight the Power 2 (hip-hop)


So all of the above could be done 2-3 to a day. Is there interest in a guerilla-edited 20/20 trash tourney that would likely take up an entire morning/afternoon by itself? Do people feel they have enough time to write for such a thing? This was a lot of fun back in the day when Michigan used to host one.
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Post by Cheynem » Wed May 15, 2019 10:03 am

At this point, I think I might like a later August event just to provide some distance from the UIUC one and Chicago Open, but I also realize that as you get more into August, you start conflicting more with school/classes.

If I do go, I would try to do a guerrilla trash event.
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Post by stanjast » Wed May 15, 2019 11:00 am

Cheynem wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 10:03 am
At this point, I think I might like a later August event just to provide some distance from the UIUC one and Chicago Open, but I also realize that as you get more into August, you start conflicting more with school/classes.
So Saturday the 17th would be hard to do, since that's the day of Purdue's student activities fair, and a number of team members will have to spend some portion of their afternoon staffing a table to recruit new teammates.

If the weekend of the 24th/25th isn't too late for people, we could certainly host then (and we should, in theory, have the entirety of the returning Purdue team back on campus to help staff, since classes will have begun).
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Post by Cheynem » Wed May 15, 2019 11:20 am

You might want to set up a poll or something; I know a number of people said August wouldn't work for them regarding the UIUC event (although that was, of course, before UIUC declared a July event).
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Post by stanjast » Tue May 21, 2019 10:13 am

One last bump to ask anyone who hasn't yet and might be within traveling distance to take the poll that's now on this post about workable weekends for a Purdue side-event-o-rama...
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Post by stanjast » Fri May 24, 2019 9:46 am

Ok, so it seems like we have a date that's won out -- the first weekend in July. Now, a proposed slate of events:

We would like to run (i.e. I'm going to be contacting the authors and asking their permission to use):

MIXTAPE
Let's Remember Some Guys 2
FOGEY (?)


Please feel free to offer other suggestions of events you'd like to play and if one gets a few votes we can add it to the list. Once I start getting confirmations from tourney authors, I'll set up a Google sign-up sheet for team formation/staffing purposes.

And since there seems to be some interest in it, let's try a (FREE!) guerilla-edited singles event (tentatively called the Glenn "BIG DOG" Robinson Trash Tournament). Here's how that'll work:

Each player must write a slightly longer trash packet than usual, as you'll be crossing out questions during the course of the day to avoid repeated answers. Here's the distribution:

TOTAL: 26/26 (this is a must -- please don't write short packets!)

5/5 Sports
5/5 Music
5/5 TV
5/5 Movies
1/1 Food and Drink
2/2 (Video/Board/Card/Other) Games
1/1 Comic books/literature
1/1 Internet
1/1 Other (may add to any of the above categories or write on any subject not otherwise covered)


You need not send these questions in advance -- just bring printed copies to the tournament with you, which you'll edit during the course of the day, and then hand out when it's your round to be packet author. In the days leading up to it, I'll send everyone a note letting you know how many copies you'll need to bring.

That's all for now -- updates as I get them, and please suggest other events that you might be interested in adding to the schedule.
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