2004 Ky state Gov cup

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Well, who are the front- runners for this year's Ky Gov Cup?

Dunbar
19
41%
Johnson Central
1
2%
Pikeville
8
17%
Apollo
1
2%
Dupont
5
11%
Other (specify)
2
4%
Who cares?
10
22%
 
Total votes : 46

2004 Ky state Gov cup

Postby matt-ray » Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:48 pm

Who are the front- runners for this year's Ky Gov Cup?
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Postby MCDoug » Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:01 pm

Daviess County is a really good team too. I think they should be in the running.
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Postby matt-ray » Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:20 pm

gee, I wonder how many people from Dunbar voted...
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Postby NoahMinkCHS » Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:05 pm

matt-ray wrote:gee, I wonder how many people from Dunbar voted...

It's not just Dunbar people, it's probably most non-Kentuckians. Dunbar travels more than anybody else from Kentucky, and they're very successful when they do. Even though Gov's Cup is a different format from most of what we see Dunbar play, I think a lot of people probably assume Dunbar will be dominant anyway.

Personally, I won't vote, since I know nothing about Ky. quiz bowl beyond "Dunbar is good". I've seen this year's Pikeville and previous Apollo teams, too, and they also seem very capable.
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Postby Stefan » Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:32 pm

Dunbar for sure. Look at their test scores at kaac.com. John or James Zhang scored a 48 in social studies and second in the state was around a 44. He also scored a 46 (I think) in another subject area.
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Postby ericblair » Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:39 pm

No he didn't get that high in another subject area because the other test that he took was arts and humanites and first was not him. It was some guy with a 41. I imagine that he and I got similar scores.
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Postby matt-ray » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:25 pm

Wow, Eric burned you TWICE Stefan.
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Postby Nobilis est ira Leonis » Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:47 am

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Postby matt-ray » Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:16 pm

Ben- you posted for us didn't you?
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Postby Stefan » Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:32 pm

i don't care about technicalities
dunbar is good
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Postby Wildcat » Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:37 pm

Obviously you care about technicalities or you wouldn't have given those specific test scores. Additionally, this is quizbowl..."the art of technicalities."(Well....thats stretching it :lol:)
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Postby Stefan » Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:37 pm

ps. pikeville and jchs are both good too but you don't have the intimination factor of dunbar

pps. You won't beat me in math quick recall unless somebody on my team wouldn't buzz in on math (yet another excuse why we lost in the finals)
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Postby Secret Agent Man » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:57 pm

It's Hard to say who will be the best I mean who expected the outcome of state last year.
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Postby NoahMinkCHS » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:05 pm

Stefan wrote:pps. You won't beat me in math quick recall unless somebody on my team wouldn't buzz in on math (yet another excuse why we lost in the finals)

The frequency and quality of posts by Kentuckians seem to be diverging at a disturbing rate (More posts -> Lower quality). Self-promotion is up, too. And the one-line posts. I know this is probably AHAN, and probably inviting a "Don't read this if it bothers you" flame, BUT it's on many, many boards--this is just one example. And I didn't feel like starting a new AHAN thread to complain. But can some of the, maybe, more experienced Ky. posters rein in these people? (Sorry to single out the whole state, it's just a few people, but that's the common bond I guess) I know y'all know how this board works, but some of the newbies have problems with it.
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Postby solonqb » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:43 pm

Seeing that Dunbar apparently travels more than anyother team, can anyone post their contact info or email it to me? Rob Hentzel from NAQT requested that I promote my NAQT tournament in May to Kentucky teams, and they seem one of the most likely to actually bother coming up here (to Cleveland)
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Postby Leo Wolpert » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:58 pm

As much as I loathe to agree with this anonymous quizbowler character, I have to do so. Seeing as ericblair, that Nobilis dude, that Knowmas guy, and other people post from the exact same IP address, I have to suspect that at least some of those accounts are puppets for one person. And, even if they're not (i.e. you all just go to the same school, and post from the same computer lab), you should really think about whether or not you're making a meaningful contribution to the discussion at hand. If the answer is no, a good idea would be to go study some clues or read a book instead of leaving your keyboard droppings here.

So, to quote a teammate: "It's time to just chill out. Stop writing this shit. Go smell the flowers or something. This is not funny."
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Postby MCDoug » Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:04 pm

"no harm, no foul"

at least it's not the Florida thread. things could be worse.
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Postby ericblair » Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:31 pm

The reason it is the same IP address is because we are at the same school but we are scattered all over the place.

These kids (Stefan, Nobilis, in particular) do need to stop the boasting and self promoting. They may think that the KY teams that see all the time and the players that they see are good but they shouldn't list them as some of the best in the nation or the southeast because they probably aren't.
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Postby ericblair » Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:37 pm

And if you would like to contact us, Solonqb, e-mail our coach at

jbelcher@pikeville.k12.ky.us
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Postby AKKOLADE » Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:46 pm

ericblair, ironically, wrote:These kids (Stefan, Nobilis, in particular) do need to stop the boasting and self promoting.

Pot, kettle, black, what?
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Postby cherrie » Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:29 am

NoahMinkCHS wrote:
Stefan wrote:pps. You won't beat me in math quick recall unless somebody on my team wouldn't buzz in on math (yet another excuse why we lost in the finals)

The frequency and quality of posts by Kentuckians seem to be diverging at a disturbing rate (More posts -> Lower quality). Self-promotion is up, too. And the one-line posts. I know this is probably AHAN, and probably inviting a "Don't read this if it bothers you" flame, BUT it's on many, many boards--this is just one example. And I didn't feel like starting a new AHAN thread to complain. But can some of the, maybe, more experienced Ky. posters rein in these people? (Sorry to single out the whole state, it's just a few people, but that's the common bond I guess) I know y'all know how this board works, but some of the newbies have problems with it.

I think it's funny as hell just to read. That's why I don't usually bother.

The problem is that most Kentucky and non-Kentucky players don't really know what it's like on the other side, which is unfortunate. There are a lot of talented and reputable teams in Kentucky, but you'll never seem them play anywhere else. This creates difficulties when they attempt to assess their ability in comparison to out of state teams.
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Postby solonqb » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:44 pm

cherrie said:

There are a lot of talented and reputable teams in Kentucky, but you'll never seem them play anywhere else. This creates difficulties when they attempt to assess their ability in comparison to out of state teams.


Which is exactly why Rob Hentzel wants me to promote my tournament (in Cleveland in May) in May to KY teams. Since I think you're from Dunbar, can you email me your coach's email address or post it or get it to me somehow? Since you guys seem to be the most well-traveled team in KY, and I could get a nice hotel discount for out-of-town teams, I wanted to email your coach about it.
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Postby First Chairman » Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:01 pm

solonqb wrote:Seeing that Dunbar apparently travels more than anyother team, can anyone post their contact info or email it to me? Rob Hentzel from NAQT requested that I promote my NAQT tournament in May to Kentucky teams, and they seem one of the most likely to actually bother coming up here (to Cleveland)


Hmm... well, Kentucky teams have come up to Cleveland before to the regular-season comps we ran at Cleveland. Granted, Dunbar was not one of them (until NSC last year), but certainly I am sure that we would welcome more visits from Kentucky teams to Ohio.

Or North Carolina for that matter.
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johnson central

Postby potato » Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:28 pm

johnson central is definetly going all the way this year in quick recall
they've been runner up for the past 2 years and now have the upper hand on bitter rivals pikeville, i got some words for pikeville
if you thought you guys were better than us watch out cuz we will beat you in regions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: johnson central

Postby tj b boy » Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:37 pm

potato wrote:johnson central is definetly going all the way this year in quick recall
they've been runner up for the past 2 years and now have the upper hand on bitter rivals pikeville, i got some words for pikeville
if you thought you guys were better than us watch out cuz we will beat you in regions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I think you might be sarcasm, but if not, please think before you post.
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Postby Stefan » Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:34 am

i have found out numerous times and i found out agian in regional govenor's cup that technicalities stink
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Postby ericblair » Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:43 pm

What is up with Arts and Humanities written assessment? Who cares what instrument plays the idee fixe of the guillotine in some obscure Berlioz work? What are your thoughts of region KY quizbowlers? Any surprises?
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Postby Stefan » Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:38 pm

it looks like pikeville got a horrible draw
russel and i think dupont in the same quarter :shock:
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Postby ericblair » Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:43 am

How did you find this out Stefan? I can't find it on their website.

I guess this means a lot more studying. It'll be close.
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Postby Stefan » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:37 am

ericblair wrote:How did you find this out Stefan? I can't find it on their website.

I guess this means a lot more studying. It'll be close.


Eric--go to http://www.kaac.com and you will the brackets for the state finals. Goood luck at state,
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Postby Stefan » Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:13 pm

more specifically go to state finals inform. and it will give some hotel informattion. Click on more information near the top and look at high school upper bracket. Do you know if any of the teams in Central Hardin's quarter are any good :?:
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Postby ericblair » Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:46 am

Middlesboro like I said in another thread is pretty good. That was with Knowledge Master questions which are somewhat different than Governor's Cup questions so I am not really sure how they will do. I really expect Central Hardin, Middlesboro, or St. X (this is solely based on their team last year though) to come out of the bottom left quarter of the bracket.
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Dunbar Will Win

Postby dm21mayo » Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:33 pm

Dunbar is definitely the front runner. We played them in disrict and regionals and they walked all over us. In fact, they walked all over everybody. They are loaded with seniors, have great balance, not to mention John Zhang. They are AWESOME, and it will be a big upset if they lose. Plus, the poll is about OVERALL rankings, not Quick recall. Dunbar has won four straight, and I don't see why they wouldn't be the favorites for a fifth.
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Postby Stefan » Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:07 pm

the dunbar tournament is placed right before state. its a real nice warm up for state govenors cup. eric do you have a list of final results
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Postby ericblair » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:05 am

You should probably get on the Dunbar Tournament thread and watch for an update, Stefan. I don't have the completed results.
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Postby barbary_pirate » Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:06 pm

thanks for the compliment.

however, we have lost the last three times we've played against Johnson County. I was greatly impressed by the depth of knowledge shown by the other teams I saw this weekend, namely Pikeville.

Hopefully we will do well at Governor's Cup but we are hardly favorites.

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Postby ericblair » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:20 pm

Too bad "depth of knowledge" isn't rewarded in quick recall so it can really be anyone's game. I expect a good match between russell and us. Hopefully we will come out on top :wink: .
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Postby Stefan » Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:47 pm

After the first round of the state championship the following teams survived.

1. Russell d. Pikeville
2. Campbell d. Perry Co. Central
3. Daviess Co. d. St. Francis
4. Dunbar d. Lincoln Co.
5. Central Hardin d. Murray
6. Middlesboro d. Allen Co.-Scottsville
7. St. Xavier d. Bracken Co.
8. Johnson Central d. Clay Co.
9. Madison-N. Hopkins d. Breathitt
10. Berea d. Dixie Heights
11. Western Hills d. Hazard
12. Eastern d. Graves Co.
13. Paul Blazer d. Green Co.
14. duPont Manual d. St. Henry
15. Apollo d. Bardstown
16. Shelby d. Caldwell Co.
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Postby Jason84 » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:08 am

I wonder which part of the state Dunbar is located?

Also, I noticed Clay County among the first-round losers in the Kentucky state tournament. I spent my college spring break on a Christian Appalachian Project house in Clay County and met many wonderful folks there. Glad to hear of their QB team in this forum.

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Postby Stefan » Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:15 am

Dunbar is located in Lexington.
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Postby Stefan » Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:40 pm

more gov. cup results

1.Russell d. Campbell Co.
2.Dunbar d. Daviess Co.
3.Shelby Co. d. Central Hardin :roll:
4.St. X d. Middlesboro
5.Johnson Cen. d. Mad. N. Hopkins
6.Berea Comm. d. Hazard
7.Eastern d. Paul G. Blazer
8.duPont Manual d. Apollo

Quarterfinals

1.Russell d. Dunbar
2.Shelby Co. d. St. X
3.Johnson Cen. d. Berea Comm.
4.duPont Manual d. Eastern

Semifinals

1.Russell d. Shelby Co.
2.Johnson Cen. d. duPont Manual

Consolation

1. duPont Manual d. Shelby Co.

Finals
1.Russell d. Johnson Cen.

I find it odd that neither Dunbar or Pikeville won in quick recall or overall.
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Postby ericblair » Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:18 am

Russell is awesome at quick recall. I find it very comforting though to know that we did give them the best match of the whole tournament even though it was in the first round. They will represent KY very well at the 2004 Panasonic Academic Challenge.
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Postby saul » Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:29 am

considering that we had russell first round, im not suprised we didnt make it further. we gave russell quite a match in which we led at times, but in the end they came out on top. they are a really good quick recall team. too bad we didnt get to face them further on into the tournament, but thats the way the cookie crumbles i guess....

governors cup 2005 should be cool.
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Postby donut » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:43 pm

which team was the biggest shock in governors cup?
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