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Post by rylltraka » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:22 am

Hello! Due to popular demand, CO History Doubles will return for the umpteenth year, with a crisp new haircut, and hopefully with less schedule wrangling. It will tentatively be run on Sunday, July 20th, the day after Chicago Open proper.

Packet Submission
None! This year's instantiation will be written in toto by a team consisting of myself (Mik Larsen), the imperturbable Mike Cheyne, and the indefatigable Eric Mukherjee. I will be writing ancient and medieval, Eric will be writing modern, Mike will be writing American. A not-insubstantial portion of the set has already been written.

Format
Teams will consist of two players, more or less. The format for this tournament will be twelve rounds of 20/0, of which the tournament will probably consist of ten rounds, a finals, and spares. That's right, no bonuses. Actual tournament bracketing will be determined when we're closer to the start date, but the hope is a complete round robin. If not, separate brackets.

Cost
$10 per person.

Distribution
The overall distribution for the tournament is as follows:
240/0
72/0 American
72/0 European
24/0 Continental (France/Germany/Italy/West Europe)
16/0 British/Commonwealth
16/0 Ancient (Greece/Rome/Byzantium/Other)
8/0 Russia
8/0 Other Europe (Scandinavia, Greece, Balkans, Hungary, Poland, East Europe)
72/0 World
16/0 East Asia
16/0 Middle East
10/0 Africa
10/0 South/Central Asia
10/0 South/Latin America
10/0 Extra (SE Asia, Indonesia, Oceania, Islands - plus bonus for the previous categories)
24/0 Other
6/0 Historiography
6/0 Trash
6/0 CE/Supermodern
6/0 Transnational/Other

Via fiat of Mike Cheyne, there shall be powers.

Team Registration and Names:
Teams are free to register from this point on. We retain the right to provide you with a supposedly-humorous name. If you provide one we like, you can keep it. Sign up is official when you have formed a partnership and expressly say so.

I've made a GoogleDoc Spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... 2cmc#gid=0
Feel free to use it.

Staffers:
We need them. Also buzzers.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Charbroil » Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:49 am

There doesn't seem to be any way to type in the spreadsheet.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Cheynem » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:11 pm

No powers in an Eric Mukherjee tournament?!

Edit: I also wanted this tournament to be called 3MB, but I was overruled. I mean, it fits--Indian guy, guy with a ponytail, and guy with a Scottish last name.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by 1992 in spaceflight » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:38 pm

I'm pretty sure I'm coming to this, and I could use a teammate. I know some American, a bunch of Russian and some France stuff. If anyone would like to team up, email or PM me.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Periplus of the Erythraean Sea » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:09 pm

Cheynem wrote:No powers in an Eric Mukherjee tournament?!
Somewhat disappointing.
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Post by Periplus of the Erythraean Sea » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:50 pm

rylltraka wrote:72/0 World
16/0 East Asia
16/0 Middle East
10/0 South/Central Asia
10/0 South/Latin America
10/0 Extra (SE Asia, Indonesia, Oceania, Islands - plus bonus for the previous categories)
Is there supposed to be 10/0 Africa here?
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by rylltraka » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:07 am

That is correct. Now corrected.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by The King's Flight to the Scots » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:11 am

Charles Tian, I do not know how to contact you. Nevertheless, I would like to play with you. Please reply if you see this.
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:06 am

Vernon Lee Bad Marriage, Jr. wrote:Charles Tian, I do not know how to contact you. Nevertheless, I would like to play with you. Please reply if you see this.
I believe the traditional method is to bury a plate of jerk chicken at a crossroads at the stroke of midnight, then return a week later.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by DumbJaques » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:37 am

Ukonvasara wrote:
Vernon Lee Bad Marriage, Jr. wrote:Charles Tian, I do not know how to contact you. Nevertheless, I would like to play with you. Please reply if you see this.
I believe the traditional method is to bury a plate of jerk chicken at a crossroads at the stroke of midnight, then return a week later.
Eh, this actually didn't work for me.


EDIT: I'm looking for a teammate for this.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Muriel Axon » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:40 am

DumbJaques wrote:
Ukonvasara wrote:I believe the traditional method is to bury a plate of jerk chicken at a crossroads at the stroke of midnight, then return a week later.
Eh, this actually didn't work for me.
Did you check the drinking fountain?
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by The King's Flight to the Scots » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:48 am

My cousin works for the Communist Party of China and told me how to find Charles Tian, but I can't tell you or he'll be given a lethal injection.
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Post by Cheynem » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:50 am

The difficulty isn't mentioned anywhere, but my stuff will be hard. Ha ha.
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Post by at your pleasure » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:52 pm

Since I plan on being in town for CO, I will play this and am looking for teammates.
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Post by itsthatoneguy » Wed May 14, 2014 10:46 pm

I'm staffing this
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Post by Quantum Mushroom Billiard Hat » Sat May 17, 2014 6:12 pm

I can staff this as well.
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Post by Gautam » Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:21 am

I would like to play this business.
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Post by Windows ME » Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:35 am

I'm going to staff.

Unless you become flooded with staff.
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Post by Cheynem » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:01 pm

Let's try and nail down registration by the beginning of July, so we can think of an appropriate format/schedule.

More specific pricing info to come (can't be more than $10 a person, though, I would guess, if that).

About two thirds of the American history tossups have been written, and I'd like to playtest those at some point with people not playing the set--more info to come (we might wait until full packets are done).
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Post by Bartleby » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:21 pm

Cheynem wrote:Let's try and nail down registration by the beginning of July, so we can think of an appropriate format/schedule.

More specific pricing info to come (can't be more than $10 a person, though, I would guess, if that).

About two thirds of the American history tossups have been written, and I'd like to playtest those at some point with people not playing the set--more info to come (we might wait until full packets are done).
I would be interested in helping out with this.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Cheynem » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:01 am

Here is the roster of who I have signed up to play. Please form a team by the beginning of July if you want to play. If this inaccurate, please let me or someone else know. I will send a confirmation e-mail to the teams in July to officially nail down the number of teams.

TEAMS
1. Mike Bentley and Will Nediger (CONFIRMED)
2. Auroni Gupta and Richard Yu (CONFIRMED)
3. Will Alston and Marshall Steinbaum (CONFIRMED)
4. Dan Puma and Matt Weiner (CONFIRMED)
5. Jordan Brownstein and Matt Jackson (CONFIRMED)
6. Jerry Vinokurov and Ryan Westbrook (CONFIRMED)
7. Andrew Hart and Jeff Hoppes (CONFIRMED)
8. Jarret Greene and Patrick Liao (CONFIRMED)
9. Evan Adams and Chris Ray (CONFIRMED)
10. Sam Bailey and Doug Graebner (CONFIRMED)
11. Gautam Kandlikar and Matt Lafer (CONFIRMED)
12. Max Schindler and Ben Zhang (CONFIRMED)
13. Billy Beyer and Chris Borglum (CONFIRMED)
14. Kurtis Droge and Libo Zeng (CONFIRMED)
15. Jay Misuk and Tejas Raje (CONFIRMED)
16. Matt Bollinger and Stephen Liu (CONFIRMED)
17. Brendan Byrne and Mike Sorice (CONFIRMED)
18. Dylan Minark and Austin Listerud (CONFIRMED)

If Kenneth and/or Charlie wish to play, we will assign them to a team to create two teams of three, I guess.

Free Agents
Kenneth Lan (*)
Charlie Dees (*)

(*) indicates person is definitely intending to play. (-) indicates that the person will be at CO anyway, but hasn't confirmed either way.

Some of the free agents on this sheet are not on a CO team, so I'm not sure if they will be here or not. There are enough free agents to form 4-5 teams right now if everyone plays. Please find or create a team if you have not yet.

I'll note that we seem to have a lot of staff, and while I don't want to tempt fate here (we can always use people as stats folks or scorekeepers or gofers), if any staffers were on the fence about playing, go ahead and form a team.
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Post by Nice hockey Cote d'Azur » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:58 pm

I will be playing this
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Post by Senator_Jay » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:54 pm

I would also like to tip my hat in for this, and I would also like a teammate, if possible.
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Post by Strongside » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:12 pm

I am looking for a teammate for this.
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Post by Guile Island » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:21 pm

I'm very much still playing this and am also very much still in need of a teammate.
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:03 am

As we have nothing to do Sunday until the literature tournament, Billy Beyer and I would like to sign up for this. However, if the limit of teams based on packets is reached without us, we will happily withdraw. In other words, people ahead of us on the free agent list or who are really hankering to play should get first shot.
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Post by Charbroil » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:51 am

I'm actually not going to be at Chicago Open. Sorry!
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Post by Sun Devil Student » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:06 am

Sorry guys, haven't been on the forums much (working in a lab this summer) - just posting to confirm that I would like to play this event since that was questioned above, let me know if you would like to play with me, thanks!
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Post by 1992 in spaceflight » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:36 am

I'm not going to be at Chicago Open, so I've removed my name from the free agent list on the spreadsheet. Hope this turns out well!
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Post by gyre and gimble » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:32 am

I'm playing.
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Post by Sima Guang Hater » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:24 pm

Alright, so now we're at 19 teams, with 12 packets. There's a few things that could happen:

1. The ideal scenario would be to collapse to two teams of three to make 18 teams, so we could run a 6/6/6 rebracket into 6/6/6 (either crossover or another new RR, a la CHB), then a final.

2. Another scenario would be to increase the teams to 20, then we can have two brackets of 10, then a best of three final.

I'm not inclined to leave this tournament at 19 teams; thus, I'll lock the field if a 20th team signs up or the number of teams drops to 18 (either by two teams collapsing into teams of 3 or one team dropping out).
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Post by Cheynem » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:45 pm

Chris and Billy said they would drop out if needed.
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Post by Sima Guang Hater » Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:03 pm

Cheynem wrote:Chris and Billy said they would drop out if needed.
In that case, if no one else signs up, I'll ask them to drop, but if one or two more teams sign up, we'll play the 20-team format (with Chris and Billy dropping in the latter case).
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by ValenciaQBowl » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:19 am

Yup, that's fine. And since we'll be there, we can even add or drop the Saturday night before it if need be.
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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:05 pm

Yeah I was wanting to play and hadn't tried to hard beyond asking one person about forming a team, so if other people want to play message me.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Cheynem » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:43 pm

The week prior to the tournament, I will e-mail at least one representative of each team asking for confirmation that they are playing. Free agents should continue to try to form teams; if they don't, we reserve the right to just pair them together and create teams ourselves.
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Post by rylltraka » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:02 am

Just to announce that the cost for the end result of our blood, sweat, tears, and other excretions will indeed be $10 per person. Also added to the initial post.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Cheynem » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:52 pm

Did Matt Bollinger and Charles Tian really pull out of this tournament to staff or is someone editing the sign up doc again?

I am sending an e-mail to the teams currently signed up asking them to verify their playing or not. Please respond.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Periplus of the Erythraean Sea » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:35 pm

Are free agents going to end up being combined into teams?
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Post by Cheynem » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:37 pm

Yes.
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Post by rylltraka » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:04 am

Who has confirmation for the room reservation for today? Because at the moment (805) we have only two unlocked rooms in Cobb.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Sima Guang Hater » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:28 am

This is the schedule for today (attached as PDF also):


3M: CHICAGO HISTORY 2014
PRELIMS
ROUND Room 1 Room 2 Room 3
1 1-6 2-5 3-4
2 4-6 2-3 1-5
3 3-5 1-4 2-6
4 2-4 5-6 1-3
5 1-2 3-6 4-5

PLAYOFFS (Numbers change, see bottom)
ROUND Room 1 Room 2 Room 3
6 1-6 3-5 2-4
7 4-6 2-3 1-5
8 2-5 1-4 3-6
9 1-3 4-5 2-6

PRELIM BRACKETS
Praying Mantis (A) Earnest Will (B) Nimble Archer (C)
1 Hart/Hoppes Weiner/Puma Brownstein/Jackson
2 Adams/Ray Alston/Steinbaum Bollinger/Liu
3 Droge/Zeng Gupta/Yu Vinokurov/Westbrook
4 Greene/Liao Byrne/Sorice Kandlikar/Lafer
5 Bentley/Nediger Schinder/Zhang Bailey/Graebner
6 Beyer/Borglum Misuk/Raje Free Agent Team
ROOM 1 101 104 110
ROOM 2 102 106 112
ROOM 3 103 202 203

PLAYOFF NUMBERING
Number Seed
1 A1, A3, A5
2 A2, A4, A6
3 B1, B3, B5
4 B2, B4, B6
5 C1, C3, C5
6 C2, C4, C6
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Benin Rebirth Party » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:19 am

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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Periplus of the Erythraean Sea » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:38 pm

Should we discuss the tournament in this thread, or in some other thread?
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Sima Guang Hater » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:42 pm

Feel free to discuss the tourney here. Thanks to my coauthors and the staffers for making this event great.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Cheynem » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:03 pm

My intentions for this set were to basically try and ask interesting (to me) answerlines that frequently strayed off the beaten path; I wouldn't hold these up necessarily as something worthy of emulation, but they were (again, to me) pretty interesting things. I wrote every American history question and a few other/trash type things.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Cheynem » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:37 am

I'm actually going to start a discussion thread in the appropriate forum.
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Re: 3M: Chicago Open History Doubles, 7/20

Post by Sima Guang Hater » Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:38 pm

We will read the final two packets from this set on IRC Wednesday (7/23/2014) night at 9PM EST or so. Please do not view them until then if you want to play.
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