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Postby Jesus vs. Dragons » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:19 pm

McGraw-Hill MCAT practice book
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Broad-tailed Grassbird » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:05 pm

TheLessFamousEthan wrote:McGraw-Hill MCAT practice book



any mcat book has the later clues for a huge portion of science. I plan on revamping my science knowledge for quiz bowl as soon as I take the MCATs this week (thursday).

The funny thing is, that review has helped me a lot in chemistry (for quiz bowl). I once did all my friend's online chemistry homework for a week after 6 beers (disclaimer: I do not condone underage drinking, just drinking and studying), but I didn't know the names of any of the formulas and concepts, just how they worked.

For actual MCAT, Examkrackers is the best stuff publicly available for prep (on paper). If you can get your hand's on Princeton Review's workbooks, that's also suppose to be the best.

I guess Kaplan is really good for quiz bowl, in which understanding the formula difference between bulk and Young's modulus is important. On the actual MCAT, you get all the not super basic formulas in the passages.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Jesus vs. Dragons » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:37 pm

nalin wrote:
TheLessFamousEthan wrote:McGraw-Hill MCAT practice book



any mcat book has the later clues for a huge portion of science. I plan on revamping my science knowledge for quiz bowl as soon as I take the MCATs this week (thursday).

The funny thing is, that review has helped me a lot in chemistry (for quiz bowl). I once did all my friend's online chemistry homework for a week after 6 beers (disclaimer: I do not condone underage drinking, just drinking and studying), but I didn't know the names of any of the formulas and concepts, just how they worked.

For actual MCAT, Examkrackers is the best stuff publicly available for prep (on paper). If you can get your hand's on Princeton Review's workbooks, that's also suppose to be the best.

I guess Kaplan is really good for quiz bowl, in which understanding the formula difference between bulk and Young's modulus is important. On the actual MCAT, you get all the not super basic formulas in the passages.


This information is very helpful as a future MCAT taker. Thank you.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby MLafer » Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:53 pm

Somewhat related to the discussion on the Eddas...I just finished the Kojiki and would NOT recommend it for help in learning Japanese myth, at least the edition that I checked out from the library (tr. Philippi, 1968). First, the 2nd half of it is on things that never come up (i.e. post-Jimmu legendary emperors) and seems to be mostly a list of names to give legitimacy to various families during the Nara period, along with a bunch of dudes killing their brothers and singing about it.

The first half (the true "myth" portion) -- again, at least in this edition -- uses Old Japanese spellings for most of the kami (e.g. Susanoo is "Take-paya-susa-no-wo-no-mikoto") and while it isn't too hard to figure out who they are, it's a lot tougher to figure out the common quiz bowl names of some of the more obscure figures and objects (not immediately obvious that "Opo-Kuni-Nusi" is a guy that is more well-known as Okuninushi).

I don't want to discourage anyone from reading it but "quizbowl-wise" it is less than ideal.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Jscwod » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:41 pm

Cheynem wrote:These are the books I own and consult for my own question writing (which means, I suppose, they're helpful for quizbowl):

*An Incomplete Education by Judy Jones and William Wilson. Okay, this is out of date and it's not really that good, but it has some helpful lists with flash points, and it's at least a reasonable foundation.

*Edward Knappman's "Great American Trials" and "Great World Trials." These contain short, highly readable summaries of important court cases in history.

*The Norton Anthology of American Literature (and other Norton ones, I only own American). While they certainly contain any number of excerpts and short stories, you can learn a lot from reading the quick, informative biographical sketches written about the authors.

*William Safire's Political Dictionary. A lexicon filled with important political history facts.

*I read Shakespeare for Dummies a lot in high school and got a few points off of it.


I highly recommend the Norton Anthology Series. They're very well written and they get straight to the point. Helpful for Quiz Bowl, Read them at your library.

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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby jdeliverer » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:50 pm

jonah wrote:I'm somewhat embarrassed to say that The Da Vinci Code and Angels and Demons have been—independent of their merits, or lackthereof, as literary works—very worthwhile for quizbowl purposes. Most of the history is poor/inaccurate, but the art is mostly solid. I've gotten points on tons of different art topics: Bosch, Fragonard, Bernini, Leonardo, Pei, Michelangelo, specific works by all of them, and more that I can't think of off the top of my head.


Seconded. Simply remembering art from the Da Vinci Code in particular (especially Da Vinci works) has got me more powers this year than is probably fair.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby ryandillon » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:39 pm

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but Norton's Poetry Anthology has lots of poems that come up in one volume. I know it's nothing special but I like it all in one place.

Also masterplots is cool stuff. There is an A-Z like 8 volume set or a condensed version. They are both awesome.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby at your pleasure » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:55 pm

I'm only a little ways into it, but The Rest is Noise has some very good stuff on 20th-century music so far. Plus, there's a fine companion website with clips of everything referred to in the book.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Scott » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:54 am

The Books Who Wrote What When and Who Won What When are good for less experienced lit players.
Frank N. Magill has published several good works for studying about different commonly asked literary works.
Also, the Annotated Mona Lisa is not bad for visual art.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Unicolored Jay » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:53 pm

Dave Breger wrote:I'm only a little ways into it, but The Rest is Noise has some very good stuff on 20th-century music so far. Plus, there's a fine companion website with clips of everything referred to in the book.

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I probably should borrow that from my orchestra/AP Music Theory teacher now, if one of my teammates has given it back already.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Wackford Squeers » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:05 am

I'm trying to buff up on RMP, and someone offered to lend me The Hero With a Thousand Faces. Would anybody here recommend it?
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby ppreston » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:03 pm

Great thread. Okay, here's my opinions; Bulfinch rules on myths and anybody what doesn't think so is sorely mistaken in their ideology. I do love me some Eddas, but methinks Bulfinch is more concise. I'm all about the Great Courses and their monthly advertisement-magazines with lecture excerpts are some of my favorite reads. I force my players at knife-blade to read them. Science News is a great clearing house of current and past knowledge about science for those who choose to dabble. The pre-2006 Guiness Books of World Records, before they went all USA-today style flash, are awesome for general knowledge of pert near everything. Wallenchinsky's People's Almanacs and Book of Lists are entertaining and informative. Reader's Encyclopedias are neat, too - the older the better. Finally - how's about Asimov's books of just pure trivia? I used to love those as a young knowledge-seeker.

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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby dtaylor4 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:25 pm

ppreston wrote:Great thread. Okay, here's my opinions; Bulfinch rules on myths and anybody what doesn't think so is sorely mistaken in their ideology.


Then call me mistaken. For Greek: go read the Metamorphoses, Theogony, and the Iliad and Odyssey. For Norse: many more players nowadays have read the Eddas.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:37 pm

I read Bulfinch and it is really lame. Read Graves.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Cheynem » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:54 pm

There was this book I had as a kid called "The Super Trivia Encyclopedia" by Fred Worth. It was full of inaccuracies and was in love with bizarre pop culture of the 1950's, but I wish I had it now because it really offered lots of great info on Americana.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby David Riley » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:00 pm

Just did a quick check.....several books with that title are available via Amazon at a very low cost.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Cheynem » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:04 pm

Do you think I'm made of $3.20, Mr. Riley?!
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby at your pleasure » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:15 pm

dtaylor4 wrote:
ppreston wrote:Great thread. Okay, here's my opinions; Bulfinch rules on myths and anybody what doesn't think so is sorely mistaken in their ideology.


Then call me mistaken. For Greek: go read the Metamorphoses, Theogony, and the Iliad and Odyssey. For Norse: many more players nowadays have read the Eddas.

Oddly enough, the Illiad and Odessy don't seem to have helped me enormously. The Theogony is quite good for pleasure reading study. Graves is good mainly because it's easier to look stuff up in from tournament notes but still very, very through.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Tanay » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:25 pm

David Riley wrote:The book is Gardner's Art Through the Ages, which just became available this year in a 13th edition.


I need this book for the upcoming school year and I'm sure many people who read these boards have taken AP Art History. E-mail me if you are a willing seller of a reasonably-priced copy of this book.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Auroni » Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:02 pm

Understanding Poetry by Cleanth Brooks and Robert Penn Warren. This tome of New Criticism should be accessible to anyone who wants to improve their poetry knowledge. Not only does It have 300+ poems that it either analyzes or provides hints for you to analyze, it also builds the analytical attitude within you, helping you to better appreciate and to retain knowledge of any individual poem. I seriously love this book.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Rufous-capped Thornbill » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:44 pm

every time i refresh i have a new name wrote:Understanding Poetry by Cleanth Brooks and Robert Penn Warren. This tome of New Criticism should be accessible to anyone who wants to improve their poetry knowledge. Not only does It have 300+ poems that it either analyzes or provides hints for you to analyze, it also builds the analytical attitude within you, helping you to better appreciate and to retain knowledge of any individual poem. I seriously love this book.

Why must the best books be $95?
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby dtaylor4 » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:17 pm

Inkana7 wrote:
every time i refresh i have a new name wrote:Understanding Poetry by Cleanth Brooks and Robert Penn Warren. This tome of New Criticism should be accessible to anyone who wants to improve their poetry knowledge. Not only does It have 300+ poems that it either analyzes or provides hints for you to analyze, it also builds the analytical attitude within you, helping you to better appreciate and to retain knowledge of any individual poem. I seriously love this book.

Why must the best books be $95?


On half.com, some sellers have it for less than $30.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby AKKOLADE » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:23 pm

It's available for $21 used on Amazon Marketplace.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Masked Canadian History Bandit » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:03 pm

Cernel Joson wrote:So here's where I reveal my real motive for making this thread. What would be some good books for Roman and Asian history?

For Chinese history, I would have to say that Wikipedia is an excellent resource. This template would be a good start off point. As an administrator on Wikipedia, I know that most long-term Chinese history writers aren't POV-pushers, and that they're generally accurate and source well. Quality and reliability wise, I can say with confidence that "Economy of the Han Dynasty", "Society of the Song Dynasty", "Technology of the Song Dynasty", "Han Dynasty", "Ming Dynasty", "Song Dynasty", "Tang Dynasty", and "Government of the Han Dynasty" all all feature articles, with extensive peer review, all promoted within the last 3 years of Wikpedia's existence (i.e. high standards of quality).
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby DrCongo » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:55 am

This probably goes without saying and I'm not sure if this has been mentioned but atlases are always great for studying geography. I prefer the New Concise World Atlas.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby kayli » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:44 pm

What are some good books for the big three sciences? So far, I have Campbell's biology book and Zumdahl's chemistry book. But, what are some other good book I can get?

EDIT: For high school level and beyond.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby grapesmoker » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:40 am

Halliday and Resnick is a good general freshman physics text. I forget the title of the book, but those are the authors, you can look it up on Amazon.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Habitat_Against_Humanity » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:28 am

grapesmoker wrote:Halliday and Resnick is a good general freshman physics text. I forget the title of the book, but those are the authors, you can look it up on Amazon.



It's called Fundamentals of Physics. Buy the "extended" edition which is only one volume as opposed to the whole thing which stretches out over two or three books. I just bought a used copy online for ten bucks and older editions are even cheaper.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Skepticism and Animal Feed » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:29 am

MLafer wrote:Somewhat related to the discussion on the Eddas...I just finished the Kojiki and would NOT recommend it for help in learning Japanese myth, at least the edition that I checked out from the library (tr. Philippi, 1968). First, the 2nd half of it is on things that never come up (i.e. post-Jimmu legendary emperors) and seems to be mostly a list of names to give legitimacy to various families during the Nara period, along with a bunch of dudes killing their brothers and singing about it.

The first half (the true "myth" portion) -- again, at least in this edition -- uses Old Japanese spellings for most of the kami (e.g. Susanoo is "Take-paya-susa-no-wo-no-mikoto") and while it isn't too hard to figure out who they are, it's a lot tougher to figure out the common quiz bowl names of some of the more obscure figures and objects (not immediately obvious that "Opo-Kuni-Nusi" is a guy that is more well-known as Okuninushi).

I don't want to discourage anyone from reading it but "quizbowl-wise" it is less than ideal.


I whole-heartedly agree with this, and want to add that the Nihongi is exactly the same way. They are by far the two most disappointing books I've ever purchased for quizbowl purposes.

I also found the Koran somewhat esoteric/confusing and got a lot more mileage out of secondary sources (websites of mosques were surprisingly clue-dense and readable), but maybe I just picked up a bad translation.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby kayli » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:54 pm

I know this won't help me in quizbowl much, but what are some good books for Irish mythology?
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Important Bird Area » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:22 pm

Kinsella's translation of the Tain is good.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Nine-Tenths Ideas » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:42 pm

Came across a book called 100 Decisive Battles, by Paul Davis. It seems pretty good; there's a preview on Google books.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby DrCongo » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:40 pm

Isaacbh wrote:Came across a book called 100 Decisive Battles, by Paul Davis. It seems pretty good; there's a preview on Google books.


This one has definitely gotten me some tu's. I recommend this too.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Duncan Idaho » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:04 pm

DrCongo wrote:
Isaacbh wrote:Came across a book called 100 Decisive Battles, by Paul Davis. It seems pretty good; there's a preview on Google books.


This one has definitely gotten me some tu's. I recommend this too.

So do I. I found it most helpful on ancient battles and on battles from Manzikert up to WWI. The fact that each battle is summarized in about 1,500 words means that the descriptions are relatively dense. Not all of the battles listed are helpful, because they're chosen by the author's idea of decisiveness rather than their notability, but many of them come up in quizbowl.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Down and out in Quintana Roo » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:06 pm

That sounds awesome. I'll recommend it to my kids.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Ondes Martenot » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:19 pm

I would further like to endorse the incredibly awesome 100 Decisive Battles by Paul Davis
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby WildKard » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:35 pm

Morraine Man wrote:
MLafer wrote:Somewhat related to the discussion on the Eddas...I just finished the Kojiki and would NOT recommend it for help in learning Japanese myth, at least the edition that I checked out from the library (tr. Philippi, 1968). .


I whole-heartedly agree with this, and want to add that the Nihongi is exactly the same way. They are by far the two most disappointing books I've ever purchased for quizbowl purposes.


In that case, what's good for Japanese myth?
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby dtaylor4 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:50 pm

WildKard wrote:
Morraine Man wrote:
MLafer wrote:Somewhat related to the discussion on the Eddas...I just finished the Kojiki and would NOT recommend it for help in learning Japanese myth, at least the edition that I checked out from the library (tr. Philippi, 1968). .


I whole-heartedly agree with this, and want to add that the Nihongi is exactly the same way. They are by far the two most disappointing books I've ever purchased for quizbowl purposes.


In that case, what's good for Japanese myth?


If you can swing it, the back portion of "The Eternal Self and the Cycle of Samsara" by Pandharipande is a good starting point for Hindu, Shinto, and a few other Asian religions/myth systems.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby ... and the chaos of Mexican modernity » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:37 am

So i'm not too sure if this has been asked yet, but what are some good books for Astronomy? I mean I've seen more Astronomy books at Books-A-Million and Barnes and Noble more than anything regarding the science field, but what is one that is particularly an excellent text for quizbowl and general interest purposes?
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby grapesmoker » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:49 pm

Lucy Lane wrote:So i'm not too sure if this has been asked yet, but what are some good books for Astronomy? I mean I've seen more Astronomy books at Books-A-Million and Barnes and Noble more than anything regarding the science field, but what is one that is particularly an excellent text for quizbowl and general interest purposes?


If your college library has the "Encyclopedia of Astronomy and Astrophysics," I would recommend that. It assumes familiarity with basic physics (by which I mean the standard undergrad curriculum), so it's not written for the high school level, but the astronomy sections are very accessible.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Rufous-capped Thornbill » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:39 pm

Does anyone have any suggestions for books to get one a nice base knowledge of Ancient Greco/Macedonian history? I'm looking to get into that area of history and I want to know where to start.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Skepticism and Animal Feed » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:04 am

Inkana7 wrote:Does anyone have any suggestions for books to get one a nice base knowledge of Ancient Greco/Macedonian history? I'm looking to get into that area of history and I want to know where to start.


I read the first half of Alexander to Actium as a sophomore in HS and eight years later I am still answering Diadoch War tossups and Antigonus Gonatas bonus parts because of it.

The book does go on long digressions about art and philosophy, which I found annoying, but I guess it could get you non-history questions as well.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby grapesmoker » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:09 am

For a broad overview of history, I strongly recommend the Encyclopedia of World History, 6th edition, ed. by Peter Stearns. I bought my copy used, I believe, so it's definitely floating out there. It comes with the book on CD, which is convenient, and is great for understanding timelines. Never again will you confuse the Buyids with the Samanids!
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Rufous-capped Thornbill » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:48 am

grapesmoker wrote:For a broad overview of history, I strongly recommend the Encyclopedia of World History, 6th edition, ed. by Peter Stearns. I bought my copy used, I believe, so it's definitely floating out there. It comes with the book on CD, which is convenient, and is great for understanding timelines. Never again will you confuse the Buyids with the Samanids!


Thanks! I just ordered a copy for $10.

Bruce, your suggestion was a bit out of my price range, so I'll try to find it at OSU's library when I get down there.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby FlamingPiWalrusWizard » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:58 pm

How about books for British history? Also, does anyone know if AP Euro prep books (PR/Barron's) cover this subject well for quizbowl?
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

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FlamingPiWalrusWizard wrote:How about books for British history? Also, does anyone know if AP Euro prep books (PR/Barron's) cover this subject well for quizbowl?


For the most part, books used for AP classes are not that good. I found David Thompson's (Thomson's? don't recall) history of Britain pretty good. For military history, there's a fat book out there called "The Warrior Race" by Lawrence James (I think) which I haven't read but looks pretty interesting.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Flutist Wren » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:23 am

How about good books for astronomy? Not wholly for quizbowl, but of course quizbowl relevancy is always a plus.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Smuttynose Island » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:07 am

octo wrote:How about good books for astronomy? Not wholly for quizbowl, but of course quizbowl relevancy is always a plus.


The astronomy class that I took last year used Astronomy: From the Earth to the Universe, which I enjoyed. It's easy to understand and it covers many astronomy topics well.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby Important Bird Area » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:21 am

FlamingPiWalrusWizard wrote:How about books for British history?


I meant to respond to this weeks ago, but got distracted with question editing.

Some survey-type books on British history that I like, in roughly chronological order:

Campbell, et al, The Anglo-Saxons

Bartlett, England under the Norman and Angevin Kings

Russell, The Crisis of Parliaments: English History, 1509-1660

Prest, Albion Ascendant: English History, 1660-1815

Clarke, Hope and Glory, Britain 1900-2000

That's obviously missing a late-medieval and a 19th-century book, but I haven't read any of the recent surveys in those fields; Miri Rubin's book, which I haven't read yet, is probably what to look at for the late middle ages.

The reviews I've seen of the Lawrence James book Jerry mentioned have not been all that great (which is, of course, in no way a referendum on its potential utility for quizbowl). For British military history, I'd recommend Chandler and Beckett, The Oxford History of the British Army, and for the navy the two volumes by N.A.M. Rodger.

For Irish history, read Moody and Martin, The Course of Irish History.
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Re: Books "for Quizbowl"

Postby grapesmoker » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:49 am

There's also a guy named Jeremy Black who wrote a few of the military history books I used in a class a long time ago. They were pretty detailed and also not too long.
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