HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
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Hey everyone,
I wanted to apologize for the delays in getting out new rankings. I'm working on gathering data for the next set and hope it will be out in January.
I had originally intended for it to come out in the first week. Unfortunately, last Friday I broke a vertebra. Fortunately, it's a relatively minor injury that won't require major medical intervention. But, I hurt a lot and it's hard to do too much of anything for too long.
So: new rankings will be coming. It might be a week or two later than I originally expected, but they're coming.
In the meanwhile, I'm going to find out how to make Patreon not charge people for December and will do that ASAP. If I have to issue refunds, I'll do that.
I wanted to apologize for the delays in getting out new rankings. I'm working on gathering data for the next set and hope it will be out in January.
I had originally intended for it to come out in the first week. Unfortunately, last Friday I broke a vertebra. Fortunately, it's a relatively minor injury that won't require major medical intervention. But, I hurt a lot and it's hard to do too much of anything for too long.
So: new rankings will be coming. It might be a week or two later than I originally expected, but they're coming.
In the meanwhile, I'm going to find out how to make Patreon not charge people for December and will do that ASAP. If I have to issue refunds, I'll do that.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Hope you feel better soon!
Joe Esposito
Aurora, Ohio, 2019
Ohio State University, 2023
Aurora, Ohio, 2019
Ohio State University, 2023
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Here's a complete list of all the tournaments that I currently have stats for. Please let me know if I'm missing any. (Be sure to use ctrl+F - I may not have the name in the expected format, so I suggest searching for the most unique word in the tournament name, or trying the school's host name rather than the actual tournament name in case of an error on my part)
ACF Fall @ NIU
ACF Fall @ Valley Christian
Admiral Invitational
Aggie Academic Challenge
AQA November
AQA October Invitational
AQA Season Introductory
BEARCAT
Beavercreek
Boise State Treasure Valley
Brainbusters Fall
Bronco Bowl
Buena Vista Free-for-All
Bulldog Invitational (SWATA)
C.E. Byrd
Cajun Quiz Bowl
Cal Classic
California Cup #1
Captain Shreve
Carleton Supermoon
Carrboro Invitational
Casey Young Memorial
Catholic League Fall Kickoff
CATT
Cavalier Classic
Cave Spring Invitational
Centennial Invitational
Centralia Autumn
Cerebral Weevil
Charter School of Wilmington
Chiang Mai Invitational
Citronaut Invitational
Class Act Invitational
Classical Prep Semi-Annual Quiz Bowl Invitational
Clemson Tigertown Throwdown
CMFT
Columbia Winter National
Columbian Exposition
Community School of Naples Fall
Cougar Invitational
David Riley Kickoff @ Byron
David Riley Kickoff @ Homewood-Flossmoor
David Riley Kickoff @ Mattoon
David Riley Kickoff @ Quincy
David Riley Kickoff @ Routt Catholic
Davis Classic
Del Norte Edgehog Winter
Downingtown East Experienced
East Palestine Invitational
EPIC WIN
Eureka Season Opener
Florida Gateway
French Quarter Kickoff
Friends Select Open
Gahanna-Lincoln
Georgetown Fall
GINVIT
Give Thanks Standard
Give Thanks Uber
Glasgow Scottie
Golden Eagle Bowl
Grapes of Smath
Hallsville Fall V
Harvard Fall
Henderson Invitational
HFT @ UIUC
Hicksville Invitational
High Central Open
Highland Tech Fall
Holt Winter
Hoover Invitational
Houston Holiday Hoedown
IHOP
Indiana Kickoff
IQBL Fall
Itawamba Invitational
Jan Rademacher Memorial
John Schudel Memorial
Johns Hopkins Fall
Kickapoo Scholar Bowl
KPAQT
L. L. Lewis Cup
Lakeland Winter
Las Vegas League
Legion Memorial
Lehigh Valley Academy
LIFT
LIIIMIT
Louisiana Tech Winter
LSU Spooktacular
Lusher Invitational
MacIntro III
Manheim Township
Marist FIT
Maryland Fall
Maryland Fall at Duke
Mellon Bowl
Miami Valley School Fall Kickoff
Michigan State Fall
Michigan Tech Blizzard Bowl
Mike Hendricks
Missouri Fall
MIT Fall
MOQBA Fall
Mount Carmel Invitational
MS Holiday Hoedown
Mustang Invitational
New Trier Varsity Standard
New Trier Varsity Uber-Competitive
Northern Kentucky QB League
Northern Michigan League
Oklahoma Early Fall
Ottawa SCOP
Philips Academy Winter
PHSAT Competitive
PHSAT Standard
Pioneer Invitational
Plymouth Regional
POET
Purdue Boilermaker Buzzathon
Quaker Bowl
Quaker Fall Nationals
Quaker Fall Open
Ransom Everglades Invitational
Rattler Rally
RIFT @ Rice
Rio Grande Valley Bowl
Rowdy Raider
Russell Invitational
Sacramento Fall
SAGACITY
Scarlet Knight Fall
Secret City Classic
Singapore Fall
Siouxper Bowl
Smithville Invitational
SOCIAL
Solon Fall
South Carolina Fall
Southern Buckeye Tournament
Sparkling City Challenge
Swim 'n Win
Tal Atkins
Three Trails V
Tippecanoe Academic Challenge
Toronto Novice
TQBA Alamo City VII
TQBA Bayou City
TQBA Boomtown Bash
TQBA Greenhill Games
TQBA Hornet Hullabaloo
TQBA Kickoff Classic
TQBA Panther Pageant II
Tri-State Tussle III
Triton Fall VI
UIUC Earlybird
UK Fall
University of Michigan Autumn
Vermont PHAT
Viking Academic
Virginia Tech Fall Kickoff
Washington Fall
Washington High
Washington U Fall
Wayne County League
Waynedale Invitational
WHIT - WUStL
WKU Hilltopper Invitational
Wolfpack Fall
Yale FaCT
ACF Fall @ NIU
ACF Fall @ Valley Christian
Admiral Invitational
Aggie Academic Challenge
AQA November
AQA October Invitational
AQA Season Introductory
BEARCAT
Beavercreek
Boise State Treasure Valley
Brainbusters Fall
Bronco Bowl
Buena Vista Free-for-All
Bulldog Invitational (SWATA)
C.E. Byrd
Cajun Quiz Bowl
Cal Classic
California Cup #1
Captain Shreve
Carleton Supermoon
Carrboro Invitational
Casey Young Memorial
Catholic League Fall Kickoff
CATT
Cavalier Classic
Cave Spring Invitational
Centennial Invitational
Centralia Autumn
Cerebral Weevil
Charter School of Wilmington
Chiang Mai Invitational
Citronaut Invitational
Class Act Invitational
Classical Prep Semi-Annual Quiz Bowl Invitational
Clemson Tigertown Throwdown
CMFT
Columbia Winter National
Columbian Exposition
Community School of Naples Fall
Cougar Invitational
David Riley Kickoff @ Byron
David Riley Kickoff @ Homewood-Flossmoor
David Riley Kickoff @ Mattoon
David Riley Kickoff @ Quincy
David Riley Kickoff @ Routt Catholic
Davis Classic
Del Norte Edgehog Winter
Downingtown East Experienced
East Palestine Invitational
EPIC WIN
Eureka Season Opener
Florida Gateway
French Quarter Kickoff
Friends Select Open
Gahanna-Lincoln
Georgetown Fall
GINVIT
Give Thanks Standard
Give Thanks Uber
Glasgow Scottie
Golden Eagle Bowl
Grapes of Smath
Hallsville Fall V
Harvard Fall
Henderson Invitational
HFT @ UIUC
Hicksville Invitational
High Central Open
Highland Tech Fall
Holt Winter
Hoover Invitational
Houston Holiday Hoedown
IHOP
Indiana Kickoff
IQBL Fall
Itawamba Invitational
Jan Rademacher Memorial
John Schudel Memorial
Johns Hopkins Fall
Kickapoo Scholar Bowl
KPAQT
L. L. Lewis Cup
Lakeland Winter
Las Vegas League
Legion Memorial
Lehigh Valley Academy
LIFT
LIIIMIT
Louisiana Tech Winter
LSU Spooktacular
Lusher Invitational
MacIntro III
Manheim Township
Marist FIT
Maryland Fall
Maryland Fall at Duke
Mellon Bowl
Miami Valley School Fall Kickoff
Michigan State Fall
Michigan Tech Blizzard Bowl
Mike Hendricks
Missouri Fall
MIT Fall
MOQBA Fall
Mount Carmel Invitational
MS Holiday Hoedown
Mustang Invitational
New Trier Varsity Standard
New Trier Varsity Uber-Competitive
Northern Kentucky QB League
Northern Michigan League
Oklahoma Early Fall
Ottawa SCOP
Philips Academy Winter
PHSAT Competitive
PHSAT Standard
Pioneer Invitational
Plymouth Regional
POET
Purdue Boilermaker Buzzathon
Quaker Bowl
Quaker Fall Nationals
Quaker Fall Open
Ransom Everglades Invitational
Rattler Rally
RIFT @ Rice
Rio Grande Valley Bowl
Rowdy Raider
Russell Invitational
Sacramento Fall
SAGACITY
Scarlet Knight Fall
Secret City Classic
Singapore Fall
Siouxper Bowl
Smithville Invitational
SOCIAL
Solon Fall
South Carolina Fall
Southern Buckeye Tournament
Sparkling City Challenge
Swim 'n Win
Tal Atkins
Three Trails V
Tippecanoe Academic Challenge
Toronto Novice
TQBA Alamo City VII
TQBA Bayou City
TQBA Boomtown Bash
TQBA Greenhill Games
TQBA Hornet Hullabaloo
TQBA Kickoff Classic
TQBA Panther Pageant II
Tri-State Tussle III
Triton Fall VI
UIUC Earlybird
UK Fall
University of Michigan Autumn
Vermont PHAT
Viking Academic
Virginia Tech Fall Kickoff
Washington Fall
Washington High
Washington U Fall
Wayne County League
Waynedale Invitational
WHIT - WUStL
WKU Hilltopper Invitational
Wolfpack Fall
Yale FaCT
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
If you decided to do a Penn Bowl adjustment, there's the UCI Invitational.
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I don't think I saw Philly Fall on there (http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/4481/)
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I don't see the Hunter SCOP tournament from October, and I believe there are some PPB errors from KPAQT that are currently being hammered out.
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I don't see the PHAT in Essex, Vermont, held on December 2.
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Ah, it's under Vermont PHAT. Sorry, never mind.
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Do you have Columbia Fall on there?
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2016/2017 HSNCT National Champion
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Hunter College High School 2012—2018, Pitt 2019—who knows
2016/2017 HSNCT National Champion
"sam brochin take me the **** to waffle house" — Max Shatan
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Not that it matters much for this, but just to clarify for anyone else wondering - WHIT is Washington High School's tournament, not Washington University. The two schools are about 45 miles apart and are not affiliated with each other, other than regularly providing great staff for each other's tournaments. The similarity in name is only because the town and the university were both named for the same person.
David Dennis
Middle School Choir Director
District Scholar Bowl Coach
Washington, MO
Murray State University, 2001
Breckinridge County High School, KY 1996
Middle School Choir Director
District Scholar Bowl Coach
Washington, MO
Murray State University, 2001
Breckinridge County High School, KY 1996
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That's the Friends Select Open.techno wrote:I don't think I saw Philly Fall on there (http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/4481/)
No, because they never posted combined stats and I've yet to try to calculate those myself.sambrochin wrote:Do you have Columbia Fall on there?
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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You might have already accounted for this, but for Bronco Bowl, Westview's PPB stats are inaccurate on hsquizbowldb (showing a multiple of 5 for our bonus points). I can't speak for other teams, but the NAQT PPBs should be correct.
https://www.naqt.com/stats/tournament/s ... nt_id=8708
https://www.naqt.com/stats/tournament/s ... nt_id=8708
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I don't see the Brookfield Fall Gathering, which used the Scottie set. (http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/4685/) Thanks!
Pranav Padmanabhan
Boardman High School 2018
Youngstown State University 2018
The Ohio State University 2022
Boardman High School 2018
Youngstown State University 2018
The Ohio State University 2022
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
I used the stats off NAQT.com so we're good.ykevu wrote:You might have already accounted for this, but for Bronco Bowl, Westview's PPB stats are inaccurate on hsquizbowldb (showing a multiple of 5 for our bonus points). I can't speak for other teams, but the NAQT PPBs should be correct.
https://www.naqt.com/stats/tournament/s ... nt_id=8708
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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Speaking of this: if you know anyone at the following tournaments who could post combined stats, it'd help me out greatly.No, because they never posted combined stats and I've yet to try to calculate those myself.sambrochin wrote:Do you have Columbia Fall on there?
VCU Winter
Hunter SCOP
Pickerington North
Pilot Grove
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International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
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I just posted a combined report for Darien Invitational.AKKOLADE wrote:Speaking of this: if you know anyone at the following tournaments who could post combined stats, it'd help me out greatly.No, because they never posted combined stats and I've yet to try to calculate those myself.sambrochin wrote:Do you have Columbia Fall on there?
Darien Invitational
VCU Winter
Hunter SCOP
Pickerington North
Michael Borecki
Middlesex Middle '13,
Darien (co-captain) '17,
Bowdoin College (club president) '21
Middlesex Middle '13,
Darien (co-captain) '17,
Bowdoin College (club president) '21
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Bless you, my child.
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University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
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Pickerington North used Neg5 for stats. I have the link, but it might be not be suitable...teams only played five games, and there were bouncebacks on bonuses but there aren't any bounceback points listed here: https://stats.neg5.org/t/H1UG4L4zM/pick ... -standings
The set used was the Philly Cheesesteak.
The set used was the Philly Cheesesteak.
Tyler Benedict
Miami Valley
Miami Valley
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New adjustments:
(I can't do math, so I had to redo these)
(I can't do math, so I had to redo these)
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Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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I'm sure these are questions you get them all the time, so feel free to direct me somewhere where they've already been answered if you don't want to, but I have a couple:AKKOLADE wrote:New adjustments:
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A Sets -0.7 ACF Fall 1.88 CNS168C 0.74 DEFT -0.47 EFT 6.9 GSAC 0.63 HFT 1.54 MD Fall 2.07 MSNCT17 -6.07 Prison Bowl 17 1.09 RMBCT -1.85 Scottie 1.93 SSNCT17 -0.57 WAO 10.55 WHAQ2 1.04
1) What criteria do you use to rank sets?
2) What made you change some scores from your initial rankings that are on the website (i.e. SSNCT was dropped from just above 0 to just below)?
Thank you!
Aleija Rodriguez
University of Michigan 202x
MCMC/MCCC 2019
University of Michigan 202x
MCMC/MCCC 2019
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I'd been using estimates up to this point, since there was a lack of data to do my normal calculations (this is what I do every year).
I describe how I do the calculations here.
I describe how I do the calculations here.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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I'm not sure how much this will help you determine many adjustments, if any, since Issa Tournament was a novice tournament run on an A-set (which may be why you left it out) but it did happen and I don't think I saw it on the list.AKKOLADE wrote:Here's a complete list of all the tournaments that I currently have stats for. Please let me know if I'm missing any.
Rohan Venkateswaran
UC Berkeley '24
Westview High '20
Black Mountain Middle '16
Co-Coach, Meadowbrook Middle 2017-2020
http://socalquizbowl.org
UC Berkeley '24
Westview High '20
Black Mountain Middle '16
Co-Coach, Meadowbrook Middle 2017-2020
http://socalquizbowl.org
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I don't use JV data.vrohan wrote:I'm not sure how much this will help you determine many adjustments, if any, since Issa Tournament was a novice tournament run on an A-set (which may be why you left it out) but it did happen and I don't think I saw it on the list.AKKOLADE wrote:Here's a complete list of all the tournaments that I currently have stats for. Please let me know if I'm missing any.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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Excellent; good to know.AKKOLADE wrote:I don't use JV data.vrohan wrote:I'm not sure how much this will help you determine many adjustments, if any, since Issa Tournament was a novice tournament run on an A-set (which may be why you left it out) but it did happen and I don't think I saw it on the list.AKKOLADE wrote:Here's a complete list of all the tournaments that I currently have stats for. Please let me know if I'm missing any.
Rohan Venkateswaran
UC Berkeley '24
Westview High '20
Black Mountain Middle '16
Co-Coach, Meadowbrook Middle 2017-2020
http://socalquizbowl.org
UC Berkeley '24
Westview High '20
Black Mountain Middle '16
Co-Coach, Meadowbrook Middle 2017-2020
http://socalquizbowl.org
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The A set adjustment seems abnormally small, at least compared to previous years' adjustments.
Stephen Goebel
Coach, C.E. Byrd HS 2013-2020
Unaffiliated, Caddo Magnet HS 2020-
Coach, C.E. Byrd HS 2013-2020
Unaffiliated, Caddo Magnet HS 2020-
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Yes it does. I reckon it'll increase as the season goes on; I'll check my math before I use it in the next set of rankings, but even if it checks out, I'd fully expect any teams that are ranked highly because of an A-set performance to see themselves fall off the season goes on. Barring strong performances on other sets, of course.sgoebel wrote:The A set adjustment seems abnormally small, at least compared to previous years' adjustments.
Fred Morlan
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University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
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I can't do math. I recalculated the A-set adjustment and came up with -3.60 this time. I'm pretty sure my mistake yesterday was that I had my Excel sheet to take the average of a column of data, but I had not expanded the range of cells far enough. I feel a lot more comfortable with this adjustment and will be using it moving forward.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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Fun fact! You can apparently change Excel so it only calculates new values in cells when you tell it to, rather than automatically. This is very bad when you're relying on its automatic calculates to find means, standard deviations, and outliers. :(
Fred Morlan
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International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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Okay, I recalculated everything. Here we go.
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ACF Fall 1.99
A Sets -3.6
CNS168C 0.59
DEFT -0.47
EFT 6.9
GSAC 1.41
HFT 1.57
MD Fall 1.05
MSNCT17 -4.88
Prison Bowl 17 0.7
RMBCT -1.43
Scottie 1.93
SSNCT17 -0.52
WAO 10.55
WHAQ2 1.03
Fred Morlan
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International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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Everyone that was billed for last month should have received a refund tonight. My apologies for thinking that it wouldn't bill in a month without posts.
The rankings have expanded to the top 100! Patrons can access them here.
The rankings have expanded to the top 100! Patrons can access them here.
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International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Someone help me out here. Our team appears in the rankings at #37, but I can't figure out which tournament qualified us. The ones I've checked so far don't give us that aPPB, but I can't for the life of me unearth ACF Fall @ NIU. It doesn't seem to be in the database.
Ben Dillon, Saint Joseph HS
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as
six impossible things before breakfast!"
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as
six impossible things before breakfast!"
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
It looks like the stats were posted on Neg5: https://stats.neg5.org/t/ByBP-tp6Z/acf- ... -standings. Your reported PPB of 21.15 there is consistent with your adjusted PPB of 23.14, though there's some sort of anomaly in the stats (280 points scored in round 9 on zero tossups answered) that's inflating that number.Ben Dillon wrote:Someone help me out here. Our team appears in the rankings at #37, but I can't figure out which tournament qualified us. The ones I've checked so far don't give us that aPPB, but I can't for the life of me unearth ACF Fall @ NIU. It doesn't seem to be in the database.
Stephen Eltinge
Then: TJ, MIT, Yale, PACE, NAQT
Now: ACF
Then: TJ, MIT, Yale, PACE, NAQT
Now: ACF
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- Rikku
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Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Yeah, that's a problem, and I don't have the scoresheet to suggest the fix. All 280 points for us credited as bonus on 0 bonuses heard will certainly raise the PPB for a team that finished 5-5 in that tournament :)t-bar wrote:Your reported PPB of 21.15 there is consistent with your adjusted PPB of 23.14, though there's some sort of anomaly in the stats (280 points scored in round 9 on zero tossups answered) that's inflating that number.
Ben Dillon, Saint Joseph HS
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as
six impossible things before breakfast!"
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as
six impossible things before breakfast!"
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
I fixed the issue with St. Joseph of Indiana's stat. Thanks for your honesty and bringing it up to my attention, Ben.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
The official midseason top 100 high school quiz bowl teams are now available on my Patreon. The free version will be posted Sunday around this time.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Will you be calculating a set adjustment for MBAT?
Matthew Siff
Georgetown Day School '20
Yale University '25
Georgetown Day School '20
Yale University '25
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- Lulu
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Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Thanks! What's the adjustment for CWRU GLRAC?
Pranav Padmanabhan
Boardman High School 2018
Youngstown State University 2018
The Ohio State University 2022
Boardman High School 2018
Youngstown State University 2018
The Ohio State University 2022
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
None yet. Not sure if I'll have enough data for it or not.ppadmanabhan wrote:Thanks! What's the adjustment for CWRU GLRAC?
Assumedly.Curious Homunculus wrote:Will you be calculating a set adjustment for MBAT?
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Will you be doing rankings for SSNCT?
Aleija Rodriguez
University of Michigan 202x
MCMC/MCCC 2019
University of Michigan 202x
MCMC/MCCC 2019
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Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Fred this is a really stupid question, but is there any comprehensive list anywhere of stats that you have for tournaments? The one above seems to be a bit outdated.
felix
mizzou 23, st. joseph central 19
MOQBA, PACE
mizzou 23, st. joseph central 19
MOQBA, PACE
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
I'll be posting an updated list of tournaments soon, probably after the next update.
SSNCT: we'll see.
SSNCT: we'll see.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Why are there two Great Neck South As (36 and 86) in the new rankings?
Steven Liu
Cedar Drive MS '15
High Tech '19
MIT '23
I do mathy stuff for Groger Ranks.
"I'm going insane because I miss Steven so much" -Michael Li
Cedar Drive MS '15
High Tech '19
MIT '23
I do mathy stuff for Groger Ranks.
"I'm going insane because I miss Steven so much" -Michael Li
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Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
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Noah Sheidlower
President of West Egg QB
Founder of the New York Quiz Bowl Alliance
Writer for NASAT, PACE, NHBB
Great Neck South High School '19
Columbia University '23
President of West Egg QB
Founder of the New York Quiz Bowl Alliance
Writer for NASAT, PACE, NHBB
Great Neck South High School '19
Columbia University '23
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- Wakka
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Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
I'm going to guess one of them was supposed to be Great Neck North.
Wonyoung Jang
Belmont '18 // UChicago '22
ACF; NAQT; PACE
Belmont '18 // UChicago '22
ACF; NAQT; PACE
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
have you all ever played starcraft?
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Where you have Plano East, you mean Plano West.
Stephen Fontenot
Texas Quiz Bowl Alliance Deputy Director
Communications, UT Dallas
Strake Jesuit '96 -+-+- Southwestern '00
Texas Quiz Bowl Alliance Deputy Director
Communications, UT Dallas
Strake Jesuit '96 -+-+- Southwestern '00
Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Fred do you think the rankings will ever expand to include a spreadsheet similar to the "Overall" spreadsheet in here (not including the roster portion)? You obviously do amazing work and I do not mean to minimize your efforts, but I think a spreadsheet that allows for easy comparison between teams on the same question set/difficulty would be a nice add-on/feature. And if this already exists, I'd love to see it.
Adithyan Sujithkumar
Oak Ridge '18
Oak Ridge '18
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Re: HSQBRank 2017-18: Now with a Patreon page!
Out of curiosity, at which tournament did North Gwinnett get their 26.39 aPPB? I'm not doubting it; it's just that the posted stats for almost all of their tournaments don't have calculated PPBs that I could find, and I was trying to find information on them.
Daniel, Hunter College High School '19, Yale '23