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State of quizbowl in Mass

Postby jessbowen » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:46 pm

Hi All,

I'm interested in hearing from others about the state of quiz bowl in Massachusetts. AMSA hosted a tournament yesterday and only drew 12 teams from 7 schools. I heard from other schools, but often accompanied by stories of towns with new transportation rules or schools with chaperone rules that made it difficult or impossible for teams of interested kids to be able to participate. Many schools' programs are completely student driven with little or no school/faculty support. This can make a program difficult to have long-term viability as kids graduate and its difficult to replace that enthusiasm. It also makes it hard to maintain an up-to-date contact list. Or perhaps I'm over reacting and it was just bad timing or coincidence.

Is Quiz Bowl in Mass dying? HSQS has auditions next weekend. There is a list of over 100 schools who are attending. (http://www.wgbh.org/articles/High-Schoo ... on-9-14035). Why are so few of these schools uninterested or unable to play the circuit? What can we do to reach out to them? Is funding the only hurdle? Would a free tournament drum up any interest?

If you're at a school that's not coming to tournaments, please let us know what's stopping you. What other thoughts can people offer about this?
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Re: State of quizbowl in Mass

Postby Thiccasso's Guernthicca » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:35 pm

I only joined quiz bowl halfway through last year (very regrettably), so I may not be qualified to speak on the behalf of the quiz bowl community (which I've learned is a surprisingly vast one). However, as a relative newcomer, I would like to offer my two cents.

I would hypothesize that the AMSA tournament had a low turnout because of the November 1 early applications deadline looming on the horizon for seniors. We ourselves had considered going to that tournament, but ultimately decided against it because of said deadline. I would point to the MIT Fall Tournament and the Harvard Fall Tournament as examples of tournaments with higher interest, due to the fact that they're more accessible for Boston-area teams (being right in Cambridge) and were/are held during less hectic times. Obviously, I'm not saying that the AMSA tournament was scheduled poorly – it was just unlucky for everyone.

I've also been told that many schools in the area have lost their top players, so turnout in the early months of the year has probably diminished a bit as they work to rebuild their teams. I don't think the low turnout for this tournament should be a cause of worry!
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Re: State of quizbowl in Mass

Postby Ozymandias314 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:39 pm

Nick Rommel mentioned in a post in the "State of Good Quizbowl" thread that Massachusetts quizbowl has built up through a sort of "grassroots approach". Indeed, many teams in the state, my school's included operate with little to no input from coaches. However, as mentioned before, the state of quizbowl then really depends on the enthusiasm of students in each school. I agree with Wonyoung's reasons for why CMFT4 attracted such a small amount of teams, but its also worth noting that there have never been (HFT aside) tournaments in MA with a field size greater than 24-28, while tournaments in the tri state area (and others I suppose) regularly attract 24 teams or more.
I suppose what I'm interested in is perhaps somehow promoting quizbowl through WGBH. Even among the 16 teams who qualified this year for season 9, there are several who have either never, or very occasionally go to pyramidal tournaments (based off NAQTs database). I know that WGBH probably won't ever officially sponsor non-quizshow formats, but I think if they just made No. 8 on this (http://www.wgbh.org/articles/Frequently ... tions-7157) page more obvious, more schools would eventually venture into pyramidal/good quizbowl. (Although god forbid they start playing NAC).
Anyways, even if we could get all 16 qualified teams to consistently participate in the circuit, we'd get a pretty strong field of 24-32ish teams each time (A teams, B teams, and possibly C teams), which would really be optimal for the growth of quizbowl in this state.
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Re: State of quizbowl in Mass

Postby Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedov » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:18 pm

Ozymandias314 wrote:Nick Rommel mentioned in a post in the "State of Good Quizbowl" thread that Massachusetts quizbowl has built up through a sort of "grassroots approach". Indeed, many teams in the state, my school's included operate with little to no input from coaches. However, as mentioned before, the state of quizbowl then really depends on the enthusiasm of students in each school. I agree with Wonyoung's reasons for why CMFT4 attracted such a small amount of teams, but its also worth noting that there have never been (HFT aside) tournaments in MA with a field size greater than 24-28, while tournaments in the tri state area (and others I suppose) regularly attract 24 teams or more.
I suppose what I'm interested in is perhaps somehow promoting quizbowl through WGBH. Even among the 16 teams who qualified this year for season 9, there are several who have either never, or very occasionally go to pyramidal tournaments (based off NAQTs database). I know that WGBH probably won't ever officially sponsor non-quizshow formats, but I think if they just made No. 8 on this (http://www.wgbh.org/articles/Frequently ... tions-7157) page more obvious, more schools would eventually venture into pyramidal/good quizbowl. (Although god forbid they start playing NAC).
Anyways, even if we could get all 16 qualified teams to consistently participate in the circuit, we'd get a pretty strong field of 24-32ish teams each time (A teams, B teams, and possibly C teams), which would really be optimal for the growth of quizbowl in this state.


WGBH actually did promote CMFT on their Facebook page and if they continue to do so I'm sure it would help the maintenance of good quizbowl. I am very pleasantly surprised that there will be 24 teams at PAWT next weekend, including many from new schools like Marlborough and Mansfield and a greater amount of teams from typical contenders like A-B and Framingham. I think we're fine, especially if you consider how many teams are playing tournaments in MA this year that didn't last year (Hanover, Marlborough, Mansfield, Whitman-Hanson, Sharon, Concord-Carlisle)
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Re: State of quizbowl in Mass

Postby Thiccasso's Guernthicca » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:40 pm

Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedov wrote:WGBH actually did promote CMFT on their Facebook page and if they continue to do so I'm sure it would help the maintenance of good quizbowl. I am very pleasantly surprised that there will be 24 teams at PAWT next weekend, including many from new schools like Marlborough and Mansfield and a greater amount of teams from typical contenders like A-B and Framingham. I think we're fine, especially if you consider how many teams are playing tournaments in MA this year that didn't last year (Hanover, Marlborough, Mansfield, Whitman-Hanson, Sharon, Concord-Carlisle)


Adding onto what Nick said, WGBH also promoted PAWT, which could explain why, along with the more convenient timing, the field filled up to 24 rather quickly, with many new teams (including newly-qualified quiz show teams) accounted for.
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