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Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by kdroge » Fri May 24, 2013 1:42 am

This is the official announcement for the Michigan Fall Tournament, which will be available for mirrors starting on October 5th onwards. Most likely, Michigan will host this tournament on the 12th. The set is intended to be "regular minus" or "fall plus" difficulty, akin to the EFT or IFT tournaments of the past. The final distribution of each packet will be:

4/4 Literature (1/1 American, 1/1 British, 1/1 Euro, 1/1 World/Mixed)
4/4 History (1/1 American, 2/2 Euro including British Commonwealth and Ancient, 1/1 World)
4/4 Science (1/1 Biology, 1/1 Chemistry, 1/1 Physics, 1/1 Other Science)
3/3 RMP (1/1 Religion, 1/1 Mythology, 1/1 Philosophy)
3/3 FA (1/1 Painting, 1/1 Music, 1/1 Other FA with a roughly equal split of auditory and visual)
1/1 Social Science
1/1 Geo/CE/Miscellaneous

Which is basically the ACF distribution. Tossups will be powermarked during editing. Tossups will be between 6 and 8 lines in TNR 10 font, with the majority being around 7 full lines. Bonus parts will exceed two lines only when absolutely necessary. In terms of eligibility, we will allow any teams comprised of players playing for a single school / college to compete. This includes graduate students and high schoolers. The science editor will be Cody Voight; the head editors for this event will be Will Nediger and I.

We are going to run this tournament with non-mandatory packet submission. If you would like to write a packet for this tournament, you may do so, and will receive a substantial discount. A submitted packet should follow the ACF guidelines for formatting and distribution. However, no team will be required to write a packet to attend. If you intend on writing a packet, please contact me with this information; depending on the number of packets we anticipate receiving, we may close the packet submission option after a certain point. The rest of the packets will be housewritten (currently, we are planning on producing at least 6 housewritten packets, and this number may increase as we get a better sense of our progress on the set). The idea behind this is not to force new teams to be scrambling to work on packets at the start of the school year but rather to allow clubs or people with some extra time in the late summer months to get some writing experience for a set of this difficulty level. If the packet submission rate is anemically low, we will increase the number of housewritten packets to ensure that the tournament is completed and that its quality remains high.

We are currently looking for mirrors in most regions, so let me know if you are interested in mirroring the set. As mentioned previously, let me know if you are interested in writing a packet for this tournament. I will keep a running list of anticipated packets and mirrors in subsequent posts.

If any of this applies to you, or you have any questions about the event, feel free to post here or to email me at kurtisroxs@gmail.com.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Adventure Temple Trail » Fri May 24, 2013 9:28 am

Is there any possibility that mirrors in some regions could be run on October 5, allowing a week between this and Penn Bowl in some regions? Looking ahead, it seems like we may only have one chance (the weekend of the 12th) to run our annual high school tournament, and I'm sure others are in similar situations depending on the specifics of their circuit.

How substantial will the packet discount be, and what is the deadline for submitting a packet? The specific numbers might be of use to people in determining whether to do it or not.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by kdroge » Fri May 24, 2013 3:29 pm

RyuAqua wrote:Is there any possibility that mirrors in some regions could be run on October 5, allowing a week between this and Penn Bowl in some regions? Looking ahead, it seems like we may only have one chance (the weekend of the 12th) to run our annual high school tournament, and I'm sure others are in similar situations depending on the specifics of their circuit.
Yes, someone else has emailed me asking this as well. We will make this set available starting on the 5th. Most likely the Michigan site will still run on the 12th, however.
RyuAqua wrote:How substantial will the packet discount be, and what is the deadline for submitting a packet? The specific numbers might be of use to people in determining whether to do it or not.
Base Fee: $100
Packet by Sunday, August 4th: -$50
Packet by Sunday, September 1st: -$25
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by kdroge » Fri May 31, 2013 1:02 pm

List of Mirrors:

VCU (12th)
Michigan (12th)
WKU (12th)
WUSTL (5th)
Carleton (5th)
Buffalo (tbd)
Carlton Ottawa (26th)
UK (November)
UT Austin (5th)
Brown (5th)
Louisiana (19th)

List of Expected Packets:

Louisville / Austin (received, -50)
Dartmouth (2) (received: Jensen (-25) and Dartmouth A (-25))
Haverford (received, -50)
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by MathMusic » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:44 pm

Buffalo is planning on hosting on the 5th.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Kilroy Was Here » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:44 am

Is there a field posted somewhere for the Michigan site?
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Periplus of the Erythraean Sea » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:04 am

Are there any plans for a New England mirror of this tournament?
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Tale of Mac Datho's Pachycephalosaur » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:59 pm

gamegeek2 wrote:Are there any plans for a New England mirror of this tournament?
Feel free to come to Buffalo on the 5th!
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Galadedrid Damodred » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:54 am

Hi, just wondering if someone could give a writing/editing update for this tournament. From Kurtis' earlier post, it looks like the submission numbers were indeed "anemically low." How many packets are being housewritten to fill out the set?

EDIT: Thanks for the info Will.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by women, fire and dangerous things » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:26 pm

We've written 9 editors' packets, and will be writing 2 more, for a total of 15 packets.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by kdroge » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:32 pm

I've updated the packet list and the mirror sites; yes, there will be a mirror held at Brown (look for that announcement soon, I think).

As Will said, we have 9 editors rounds virtually completed, and will be writing 2 more to finish up a 15 packet event. We are hoping to start playtesting in a couple of weeks.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by rxailagan » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:46 pm

Information specifically pertaining to the Michigan site:

Registration:
To sign up a team, please email me at railagan@umich.edu (with the subject Michigan Fall Tournament), letting me know how many teams you plan to bring as well as if you have a buzzer system. The tournament will take place in Mason Hall starting at 9AM, with registration starting at 8:30.

Entry Fees:
Base fee per team: $100
Additional team from same school: -$5 each
Competent Moderator: -$10 each
Functional Buzzer: -$10 each
Distance: -$10 per 200 miles traveled determined by Google Maps (one way)
Min Fee per school: $60

Database Link: http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/1711/

Field (18 teams):
House (2)
University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC)
University of Illinois Urbana Champagne (2 Teams)
"something ambiguous"
Northwestern
Kenyon
MSU (4)
Carnegie Mellon
Northern Michigan University (3 teams)
Chicago
OSU

Buzzers:
House (3)
UIC (1)
UIUC (1)
Northwestern (1)
Carnegie Mellon (1)
Northern Michigan University (?)
MSU
OSU
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by women, fire and dangerous things » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:30 pm

If you're hosting a mirror of MFT this weekend, please email me at the address in my profile and let me know what email I should sent the packets to on Friday.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by rxailagan » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:26 pm

We are starting to approach our field cap (18 teams) but can accept 1 or possibly 2 more teams.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Corry » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:54 pm

This packet is supposed to be comparably difficult to IFT from last year-- was last year's IFT ever publicly released? I can't seem to find it on quizbowlpackets.com.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Rufous-capped Thornbill » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:27 pm

rxailagan wrote:We are starting to approach our field cap (18 teams) but can accept 1 or possibly 2 more teams.
OSU will be bringing at least one and possibly two. Sorry for the late notice.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by 1992 in spaceflight » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:45 pm

Are you guys going to create a private discussion forum for this tournament? I (and certainly others) have stuff we would like to share with you guys about the set.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by women, fire and dangerous things » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:01 pm

Yes, I've asked Jeff to set it up, so it should be up soon.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Important Bird Area » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:29 pm

women, fire and dangerous things wrote:Yes, I've asked Jeff to set it up, so it should be up soon.
I'm not even chief admin anymore!

But yes, you now have a private discussion forum. Select "Michigan Fall 2013 discussion" from your control panel.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:55 pm

bt_green_warbler wrote:
women, fire and dangerous things wrote:Yes, I've asked Jeff to set it up, so it should be up soon.
I'm not even chief admin anymore!
WELCOME TO MY WORLD

Hey, since it was mentioned in the announcement: has IFT been posted anywhere?
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by women, fire and dangerous things » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:16 pm

Dumb question, but how do I find the new subforum in order to start a discussion thread, since it doesn't appear on my board index?
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by vinteuil » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:22 pm

women, fire and dangerous things wrote:Dumb question, but how do I find the new subforum in order to start a discussion thread, since it doesn't appear on my board index?
I too cannot find this forum.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Important Bird Area » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:08 pm

women, fire and dangerous things wrote:Dumb question, but how do I find the new subforum in order to start a discussion thread, since it doesn't appear on my board index?
Whatever was wrong with this appears to be fixed now. (It's under "Collegiate discussion.")
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by rxailagan » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:21 am

The Michigan location of this tournament is now capped at 18 teams (pending the number of OSU and house teams)
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Unicolored Jay » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:28 pm

Ohio State is sending two teams.

EDIT: This has been changed to one.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Muriel Axon » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:23 pm

Chicago (Max, Morgan, Bess (?), Gareth) won a single (no advantage) final game against MSU A.

I could be wrong, but I don't think we got 11.67 PPB in our game against Northern Michigan C. Could we have a check on that please?
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Steeve Ho You Fat » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:32 pm

Muriel Axon wrote:I could be wrong, but I don't think we got 11.67 PPB in our game against Northern Michigan C. Could we have a check on that please?
That's probably because we had 605 points, not 410.

That being said, this was a fun tournament - thanks for hosting it, Will, Roxanne, et al.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by 1992 in spaceflight » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:08 pm

By the way, whenever I click on the 'Complete" link on the database, I'm getting a message that says "Error getting report. It may not be uploaded."
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Newsteinleo » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:18 pm

The Two Hearts of Kwasi Boachi wrote:By the way, whenever I click on the 'Complete" link on the database, I'm getting a message that says "Error getting report. It may not be uploaded."
Sorry about that. The full playoff stats are up: http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournament ... /playoffs/

Joe, I'm not sure what happened, with that game, but I'll check the scoresheets again.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Guile Island » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:53 pm

Belated stats correction: Kenyon has 0 bonus points entered in for their game against us in the prelims but the playoff game has the correct final score.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by a bird » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:38 am

Golden-bellied Starfrontlet wrote:Belated stats correction: Kenyon has 0 bonus points entered in for their game against us in the prelims but the playoff game has the correct final score.
Thanks, Dylan, I was going to mention this earlier this week.
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Muriel Axon » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:13 pm

These stats corrections are taking a while. I understand if Peter is busy, and I'm not desperate to have them fixed right away, but it would be nice if someone acknowledged them. (I think Joe had some other correction but I forgot what it was.)
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Re: Michigan Fall Tournament: 10/12/13

Post by Newsteinleo » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:55 pm

Yeah, sorry about that. I know that the stats need changing. I'm planning on going to get the scoresheets ASAP and figuring stuff out. Also, if anyone took stats for any of the incorrect games, it would be awesome if you can tell me. Thanks! and sorry for the delay.

Edt: Stats has been updated to reflect corrections
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