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by **North_GA_ATeam** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:08 pm

The North Georgia College & State University Academic Team will be hosting the 2010 NAQT Southeastern (Region 6) SCT on February 6, 2010, on the NGCSU campus in Dahlonega, Georgia. While this tournament is open to any team in the nation who wishes to travel here, we hope schools in the Southeast, especially those in ACUI Region 6 (Florida, Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi, Bermuda and Puerto Rico) will consider taking part. Schools from North and South Carolina and Tennessee are welcome to attend if Knoxville is too far away.

Remember, the tournament is divided in Division I and II. Please refer to the NAQT website on eligibility for further details. http://naqt.com/college/collegiate-eligibility.html

Trophies will be given for top Div I and Div II teams. Let us know if your team qualifies for that last category when registering.

Top teams from this tournament may earn invitations to the NAQT ICT, to be held the weekend of April 9-11, 2010.

FEES:
Base Fee for first Team: $120
Fee for extra Teams: $100
Buzzer Discount: -$5 (max of 2 per school)
Experienced, competent (able to finish at least 20 questions in a timed round and knows NAQT rules well) moderator and/or scorekeeper: -$10 (maximum of 2 for now, this may be capped or removed if sufficient numbers have been met). We have also been in contact with many former players in the region who are willing to come and help out in many capacities. Our thanks in advance to these people.
Travel Discount: -$10 for each 150 miles traveled (one-way) as determined by MapQuest. This will be assessed to the overall total.
New School Discount: -$40 "New school" is defined as "a team(s) from a school that has neither competed in nor hosted a Sectional in the last two years" as per NAQT’s records. This discount will be assessed to each team a new school brings in.

Minimum single team entry: $70

Hotels: We are working on special rates for the hotels in Dahlonega. However, you can also look for hotels in North Atlanta (Sandy Springs/Dunwoody, about an hour south of Dahlonega on GA400) or Dawsonville (about 20 minutes away at GA400 and GA Hwy 53). More details on this as we get closer. Hotwire and Hotels.com are also good venues to check out.

Contact: If your team is interested in taking part, please email the team at northgeorgiaateam@gmail.com and let us know:
1- # of Div I teams (including UG teams)
2- # of Div II teams
3- possible number of buzzers
4- possible number of readers/scorers/workers etc.

We will be posting field updates from time to time and hope to have everything finalized and set by Feb 1, 2010.

Thank you for your advanced interest in the tournament we look forward to hosting you all on February 6th in Dahlonega.

As per the new NAQT system, "NAQT will be providing a centralized registration system for the SCT tournaments; NAQT will invoice schools, collect their money, and disburse payments to the SCT hosts." Just be sure to email us your numbers listed above.

Sarah Andrews
NGSCU Academic Team President

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:17 am

Field List:
Div I: 6 teams (2x RR plus 3/3 PO= 12 games/13 rounds) (3 rooms)

Florida (2) (2 buzzers+reader)*
South FL*
FSU*
South Carolina*
Georgia*

Div II: 14 teams (1x RR=13 games/13 rounds) [7 rooms]

Clemson*
St. Leo (Buzzer+reader)*
Georgia Perimeter*
Dalton State*
Shorter (buzzer+reader)*
Berry* (buzzer)
Florida*
Central Florida*
Milsaps* (buzzer)
FSU*
South Carolina* (buzzer+2 readers)
GaTech (2)*
South FL

Other buzzers:
NGCSU (5)

Readers (8):
Kevin Comer
Chuck Pearson
Mark Denote
2 from NGCSU
Dave Leach
2 from South Carolina

*Confirmed as of NAQT's registration site.

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:55 am

EDITED AS IT IS NOW A MOOT POINT- REGISTRATION SITE IS UP AND RUNNING

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:50 pm

New field update and a note that the registration for the tournament is up and running on NAQT's website. You have until January 31st to register.

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:52 pm

Field update. Looks like a rather young field so far.

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:10 pm

Finally! Some movement in Division I. Here's the new field list.

by **eldermaas** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:40 pm

North Greenville University is bringing one buzzer.

Any other schools being told by the NAQT registration site that they are getting the 150 mile, 300 mile AND 450 mile discounts?

by **ValenciaQBowl** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:49 pm

A brief note to Dalton State (the coach of whom I've already alerted) and Georgia Perimeter: do understand that (as far as I know from the NAQT website) if you play in this four-year college sectional, you'll be hearing the question set used at CCCT, so you won't be able to play in that tournament. This may not matter to you, and I don't mean to try to rain on NGCSU's field by any means, but I wanted to make sure those teams were aware of that.

by **Central_Slade** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:20 pm

Thank you for the information Borglum, but unfortunately, CC sectionals were announced with inadequate time for us to request funding for it. We had a great time at the CCCT last year and would have loved to attend it again, but there is a pretty strict policy for us to attain funds at GPC.

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:50 am

Registration ends one week from today. If you register after midnight Feb 1, you will incur a $25 per team late fee.

Also, even though we look ok for now, if you're in the area and wish to help out as a reader or scorekeeper, we would love to have you. Feel free to email us.

There has also been an addition to Div I (Miss St) and Div II (Miss St and Central FL*), making 3 and 10 teams, respectively.

*Does anyone have their email?

by **bt_green_warbler** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:41 pm

North_GA_ATeam wrote:Central FL* ...

*Does anyone have their email?

Just sent.

by **ValenciaQBowl** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:17 pm

Dude, what is this UCF team, if I may ask? I just saw Jeff's noting of their existence in one of the CC threads in Discussion. At the CC SCT this past weekend, I had around 5-7 current UCF students staffing, former players of mine and a couple other local CCs. These guys have been stoned repeatedly in trying to get things going there (though, to be fair, their own sloth in organizing, doing paperwork, etc., is also a big part of this).

It seems insanely unlikely that UCF can field a team better than the group of UCF folks I saw on Saturday; I'd love to get my people in touch with those people, in any case.

by **bt_green_warbler** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:24 pm

Chris, I just sent you their contact info. (It would be great if you could coordinate practices, register additional teams, etc.)

by **ValenciaQBowl** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:28 pm

I'm on it! Thanks, Jeff!

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:57 am

New(er) field update with the addition of South FL and Milsaps from Jackson, MS.

by **wd4gdz** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:13 pm

I forecast that FSU will sign up one team in both divisions by the end of the week.

by **eldermaas** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:15 pm

North Greenville is going to have to back out as a number of our players have scheduling conflicts with that weekend.

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:44 pm

We have a couple of new teams in Div I. Am I to take that a HS team will be playing here (FL State Univ Schools)? Interesting.

Also, we could use one or two more (or more than that) readers/scorers just in case. We've emailed NAQT for some help but you're in the area, we would love to have you. Just email us.

by **wd4gdz** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:23 pm

North_GA_ATeam wrote:We have a couple of new teams in Div I. Am I to take that a HS team will be playing here (FL State Univ Schools)? Interesting.

Also, we could use one or two more (or more than that) readers/scorers just in case. We've emailed NAQT for some help but you're in the area, we would love to have you. Just email us.

No

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:13 pm

Ok...
Care to enlighten us? I looked at the website and it looks like a high school. Just interested what this school is that's all.

by **Doink the Clown** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:20 pm

North_GA_ATeam wrote:Ok...
Care to enlighten us? I looked at the website and it looks like a high school. Just interested what this school is that's all.

My guess is that the team is of HS students dual-enrolled with the University of Florida.
EDIT: I mean Florida State.

by **wd4gdz** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:21 pm

I'm guessing someone hit the wrong button.

by **bt_green_warbler** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:38 am

Billy, if you can confirm that that's a ghost team, I'll go ahead and delete it. (I fired off an email to Craig asking about this before I saw this thread...)

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:06 pm

New Field update with a last minute addition. Just a warning to teams: if you have a fifth player, they may be pressed into service as a scorekeeper OR a reader (most likely the latter, as we're short one reader in Div II).

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:37 pm

One last (I hope) addition to the field in Div II. If you have extra players, expect them to be pressed into scorekeeping duty when asked as we lost our bye round.

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:36 pm

http://results.scobo.net/northgeorgiacollege

Quick results:
Div I:
1- Florida A
2- FSU-A
3- USF-A*

*Was part of a three way 4-6 circle of death with UGA and USC-A. See Wes' details below for the outcome.

Div II:
1- Clemson*
2- Ga Tech A*
3- Ga Tech B

*Tied with 12-1 record. Played full 20 minute game to determine title.

More details to come as well as web stats for the Div I playoffs when the scores are re-entered.

by **gwaustin4** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:01 pm

North_GA_ATeam wrote:*Was part of a three way 4-6 circle of death with UGA and USC-A. UGA beat USC in a 10 minute half game, then lost to USF in another 10 minute half game to determine 3rd, 4th and 5th spots in the 3/3 playoffs.

UGA and USF played the first half of the round and USF won, and then USF played USC on the second half, and USF again won, clinching a spot in the upper playoff group.

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:36 pm

I knew I wrote it wrong but couldn't remember the details. Thanks Wes for doing that.

by **AdamL** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:01 am

Overall, this tournament ran pretty smoothly, especially after we got back from lunch. We did have a couple of slow readers/rounds in the morning - in one case, we only got through 14 tossups in the 20 minutes. That particular reader also got very huffy at us for something as innocuous as reminding her (in non-obnoxious manner) to clear the buzzer and another incident in which she actually misheard what we said and thought we were being rude or whatever (...no), which we definitely didn't appreciate considering we were the ones paying hundreds of dollars and all to play this tournament. However, I noticed that certain readers were switched out, and after that things went a lot faster. We were out the door just a bit after 6:00 having played 14 rounds, so that was solid.

I was pretty puzzled by the policy at this tournament, at least for D2 (I don't know what happened in D1), to read through 20 tossups if time ran out before reaching 20. Is this in accordance with NAQT rules?

Several of our readers often forgot to say if things were power or not - we usually had to ask if Question X was a power, but in flipping through the packets I've found at least 2 tossups where we apparently forgot to do that, since I'm 100% sure we powered them but weren't given credit. In general, the statkeeping at the tournament was questionable. For instance, the GT B vs Clemson match in round 6 actually ended with a 595-150 victory for Clemson, not 380-145 (where did that come from?). We kept track of our team's stats and there are more than a few misattributed powers/10s/negs among our team members too, but oh well.

Overall though, like I said, I think the tournament ran fairly smoothly, and it's nice to see a newcomer like NGCSU host a reasonably successful tournament. Hopefully Sarah & Co. can host more quality tournaments in the future.

by **bt_green_warbler** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:03 am

AdamL wrote:I was pretty puzzled by the policy at this tournament, at least for D2 (I don't know what happened in D1), to read through 20 tossups if time ran out before reaching 20. Is this in accordance with NAQT rules?

It's not, but [not speaking for NAQT] I wish it were!

Please report any and all errors in the posted stats; we want to make sure we use the right numbers for ICT bids.

by **List of wrestling-based comic books** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:19 am

AdamL wrote:Several of our readers often forgot to say if things were power or not - we usually had to ask if Question X was a power, but in flipping through the packets I've found at least 2 tossups where we apparently forgot to do that, since I'm 100% sure we powered them but weren't given credit. In general, the statkeeping at the tournament was questionable. For instance, the GT B vs Clemson match in round 6 actually ended with a 595-150 victory for Clemson, not 380-145 (where did that come from?). We kept track of our team's stats and there are more than a few misattributed powers/10s/negs among our team members too, but oh well.

To expand a bit on this, often people in our rooms after having their answer deemed correct would ask the moderator, "was that power?" The moderator would look back at the question as if he hadn't been watching for it before, and then confirm whether or not it was a fifteen.

by **SnookerUSF** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:55 pm

Hello,

I just wanted to commend NGCSU and Robin for running a pretty smooth tournament, things went really well after lunch, and I thought the 3-way tie was handled quickly and without too much fuss. The moderators overall in DI were quite good, I don't think any round I played went under 20, and most were in the 22 range, and despite having a non-visible clock in one room, the staff there handled it quite well. Dahlonega, GA isn't the most exciting place, but I would gladly attend another tournament at NGCSU. The Borders gift certificates were clutch, my 31 negs were not.

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:20 pm

Thanks Ahmad,
Robin just told me he fixed the stats, added the Div I 3/3 playoffs and posted everything on the Scobo Page. As for future events, we shall see. We have our snow-delayed NGATT this weekend and if the schedule allows, we *might* be able to host another event before the end of the year. One team suggested MUT, but we think Clemson is hosting that and certainly wouldn't want to step on their toes (EDIT- Clemson IS doing this for HS, so we *could* do it for colleges...hmmm). Right now, we're halfway through back to back weekends of quizbowl and catching our breath and up on our homework. We'll talk things over when things die down. Thanks for coming up. Yes, Dahlonega isn't the most exciting place, but we're glad you all came.

by **ClemsonQB** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:27 pm

The stats look much more accurate now, at least on our end.

We're actually going to be using the MUT set for the Saturday of our Weekend of Quizbowl in March, which is solely for high school.

by **gregpweinstein** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:26 pm

I would also like to throw in my kudos to the NGCSU team and Robin. This was a very well-run tournament, seeing as how we were able to play 13 rounds and get done by 5:30, should be a lesson to some schools on how to run tournaments. I also had the reader Adam mentioned and while she was inexperienced to say the least, as far as I know she was a last minute replacement, so I don't blame NGCSU for this. I would also hope that NAQT would adapt this rule to their ever growing list of rules, as while it may have hurt in some rounds, it at least allowed for teams to see a full 20 questions, which is what teams come to play I think. Bravo once again!

Aaron Kashtan · by **Aaron Kashtan** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:05 am

I'd also like to thank Robin and the NGCSU staff for running an excellent tournament. I, too, thought the gift certificates were a brilliant idea.

by **SnookerUSF** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:01 pm

Aaron Kashtan wrote:I'd also like to thank Robin and the NGCSU staff for running an excellent tournament. I, too, thought the gift certificates were a brilliant idea.

You know, Aaron, if you came to a Sun 'n' Fun or some other USF sponsored tournament, you would receive gift cards in the $50-75 dollar range. I am sure Justin can verify this for me. Moreover, I am sure the field would appreciate the competition your presence would surely provide...XOXO

EDIT: COMMAS!

by **Charbroil** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:14 pm

SnookerUSF wrote:...if you came to a Sun 'n' Fun or some other USF sponsored tournament, you would receive gift cards in the $50-75 dollar range...

I was actually considering coming down to Sun 'n' Fun anyway as a summer trip, but this certainly makes things more interesting. Are these gift cards awards for team placement, individual scoring, or both?

by **ValenciaQBowl** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:42 pm

$500 to top CC scorer; I plan to take a one-hour teacher recert class to be eligible!

by **SnookerUSF** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:44 pm

Charbroil wrote:
SnookerUSF wrote:...if you came to a Sun 'n' Fun or some other USF sponsored tournament, you would receive gift cards in the $50-75 dollar range...

I was actually considering coming down to Sun 'n' Fun anyway as a summer trip, but this certainly makes things more interesting. Are these gift cards awards for team placement, individual scoring, or both?

by **Ukonvasara** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:14 pm

SnookerUSF wrote:
Charbroil wrote:
SnookerUSF wrote:...if you came to a Sun 'n' Fun or some other USF sponsored tournament, you would receive gift cards in the $50-75 dollar range...

I was actually considering coming down to Sun 'n' Fun anyway as a summer trip, but this certainly makes things more interesting. Are these gift cards awards for team placement, individual scoring, or both?

I love you Ahmad

by **SnookerUSF** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:29 pm

Aww..thanks! I love you too, man!

by **BerryCollegeBowl** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:58 pm

The Berry team would like to thank Robin and NGSU for running a great tournament. We hope that he will run more collegiate level tournaments in the future.

-- WC

by **Mettius Fufetius** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:46 pm

North_GA_ATeam wrote:One team suggested MUT, but we think Clemson is hosting that and certainly wouldn't want to step on their toes (EDIT- Clemson IS doing this for HS, so we *could* do it for colleges...hmmm).

FYI, Furman would be extremely interested in a MUT mirror. We actually wanted to come to this tournament, but most of the team had scheduling conflicts.

by **AdamL** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:06 am

GT would be extremely interested in a MUT mirror at NGCSU too.

by **SnookerUSF** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:08 am

You know guys, just a few hours south there is a mirror at Valencia CC, hosted by USF! Florida is beautiful this time of year, and I am certainly willing to offer travel discounts.

by **CSQuizJags** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:51 am

I talked to Sarah about it and she's going to poll the team to see if they're interested in hosting. The only viable dates they could do it are April 3 or 17th and they're leaning to the 3rd. Of course, I don't know if the MUT people will go for that but we'll see. Let's let them get through the NGATT redux this weekend and we'll let you know.

by **List of wrestling-based comic books** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:12 am

SnookerUSF wrote:You know guys, just a few hours south there is a mirror at Valencia CC, hosted by USF! Florida is beautiful this time of year, and I am certainly willing to offer travel discounts.

Well, now we have the option between a 7-hour drive and a 3-hour drive!

by **ValenciaQBowl** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:21 am

But the seven-hour drive puts you significantly farther away from the aura of evil projected from Nick Saban, while also providing you with the the sonorous reading of Ahmad Ragab. Seems like four good hours to me!

PS--really, you can do mid-Atlanta to Orlando in about 6! We'd be happy to have the Wreck.

by **North_GA_ATeam** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:32 am

AdamL wrote: Hopefully Sarah & Co. can host more quality tournaments in the future.

Well...we've approached the MUT people about hosting a mirror on April 3rd. So now all we can do is play the waiting game. As soon as we know something we'll post. We'll mostly email the SCT teams first and we know some will go to SFL and some to Alabama, so it may be mostly GA schools and a few from TN and SC (Furman at the least). And, we may be doing this the same day as our twice-snow delayed NGATT, so we may have some nice discounts for HS tournament workers too. Stay tuned...

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