Buzzer Races

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Buzzer Races

Postby bradleykirksey » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:50 pm

I'm pretty sure at ICT that half of our games were decided by a buzzer race at some point, and that I did not win one of them through the course of the tournament. How do some people so conistantly get their lights to turn on when they know things?
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Re: Buzzer Races

Postby Cheynem » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:54 pm

One thing that I think helps a player win a couple of buzzer races more than average is doing something like "priming an answer in your mind." In this case, always have like a "If I buzzed now, what would I say?" type answer ready to go. Obviously in some categories this is impossible, but even in like unfamiliar categories it might not hurt. Then you're waiting for that one particular word or clue to pull the trigger on. That sounds simplistic, but there's something key in having the mindset of "I'm ready to buzz" to "I may buzz if I hear something I know and decide what it is."
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Re: Buzzer Races

Postby Skepticism and Animal Feed » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:11 pm

Cheynem wrote:One thing that I think helps a player win a couple of buzzer races more than average is doing something like "priming an answer in your mind." In this case, always have like a "If I buzzed now, what would I say?" type answer ready to go. Obviously in some categories this is impossible, but even in like unfamiliar categories it might not hurt. Then you're waiting for that one particular word or clue to pull the trigger on. That sounds simplistic, but there's something key in having the mindset of "I'm ready to buzz" to "I may buzz if I hear something I know and decide what it is."


This. Often times, I will suspect that a certain thing is the answer, and I will wait until I hear a word that confirms it. The moment I hear that word - or even its first syllable - I buzz and usually win the race.

On the contrary, when I hear something that to me is a giveaway, but for an answer other than the one I was thinking, I almost never win that buzzer race. It seems my mind takes a split-second to adjust, and that delay is fatal.
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Re: Buzzer Races

Postby Bartleby » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:19 pm

Skepticism and Animal Feed wrote:
Cheynem wrote:One thing that I think helps a player win a couple of buzzer races more than average is doing something like "priming an answer in your mind." In this case, always have like a "If I buzzed now, what would I say?" type answer ready to go. Obviously in some categories this is impossible, but even in like unfamiliar categories it might not hurt. Then you're waiting for that one particular word or clue to pull the trigger on. That sounds simplistic, but there's something key in having the mindset of "I'm ready to buzz" to "I may buzz if I hear something I know and decide what it is."


This. Often times, I will suspect that a certain thing is the answer, and I will wait until I hear a word that confirms it. The moment I hear that word - or even its first syllable - I buzz and usually win the race.

On the contrary, when I hear something that to me is a giveaway, but for an answer other than the one I was thinking, I almost never win that buzzer race. It seems my mind takes a split-second to adjust, and that delay is fatal.


I'm no Mike Cheyne or Bruce Arthur, but this would be my advice as. Start trying to contextualize clues as you hear them; what is the question looking for? Do you have a country you can figure out before it's said? etc etc. I also find, as does Bruce, that when I get an idea in my head, and all of a sudden, something gets dropped that eliminates that idea, it does take me an often-fatal second to react.
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Re: Buzzer Races

Postby Fond du lac operon » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:22 am

Cheynem wrote:One thing that I think helps a player win a couple of buzzer races more than average is doing something like "priming an answer in your mind." In this case, always have like a "If I buzzed now, what would I say?" type answer ready to go. Obviously in some categories this is impossible, but even in like unfamiliar categories it might not hurt. Then you're waiting for that one particular word or clue to pull the trigger on. That sounds simplistic, but there's something key in having the mindset of "I'm ready to buzz" to "I may buzz if I hear something I know and decide what it is."


Yuuuup. I think of how I play quizbowl as constantly having a probability distribution on the space of answers in my head, which I update continuously as the question is being read. You want to always be, like, one clue away from buzzing (if it strongly enough supports the answer you suspect.)

And sometimes it does take a second to shift gears, but you'll win a lot more buzzer races this way than if you don't weakly commit yourself to an answer ahead of time.

The other thing -- and this may sound obvious, but I actually lost a buzzer race at ICT because of it -- is to get your finger on the buzzer before a TU starts, because sometimes you'll know the first clue, and sometimes your opponent will as well, and losing a first-clue buzzer race stings.
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Re: Buzzer Races

Postby bradleykirksey » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:48 am

Thanks. All of this advice kinda looks common sense, but the only part of that I'd been doing was keeping my finger on the button. I'll start trying to do all of that.
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Re: Buzzer Races

Postby Skepticism and Animal Feed » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:23 am

Also you're going to get faster with buzzers as you use them more. I think this is very much like riding a bike too - Harvard practiced without buzzers almost the entire time that I was there, and I didn't notice an appreciable decline in my buzzer speed.
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