Discussion forums for old sets

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Discussion forums for old sets

Post by 1.82 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:07 pm

I'm not sure where the right place is to put this ("Rules and global announcements" would seem to be the most relevant board, but it's locked), but for roughly the last three years, discussion forums for old sets haven't been made public, even after the set is posted. Presumably this isn't an intentional decision (I'm not sure what purpose it would serve to embargo discussion of sets that are already clear), but it's a mild frustration and it would be great if all the discussion forums for sets that have already been posted to the packet archive could be made public, as they were in the past.
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by Victor Prieto » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:21 am

Hi, popping in to say that Naveed is right about this, there are numerous old discussion groups dating back to 2014 that are cluttering things up a bit and it would be great if someone could archive them.
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by Susan » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:02 pm

I've started cleaning some of these up (moving the threads to College Area Archives and deleting the subforums). One thing I'll note is that I would be very grateful if, as we move forward, private forum administrators would begin all of their thread titles with a tournament-specific identifier (e.g., naming your threads "ACF Regionals 2019: General Discussion" rather than "General Discussion"). Having to rename every thread in a bunch of the forums is a time-consuming step that I think we can avoid in the future.
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by Periplus of the Erythraean Sea » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:36 pm

Susan wrote:I've started cleaning some of these up (moving the threads to College Area Archives, deleting the subforums, and deleting any associated usergroups that are still hanging around). One thing I'll note is that I would be very grateful if, as we move forward, private forum administrators would begin all of their thread titles with a tournament-specific identifier (e.g., naming your threads "ACF Regionals 2019: General Discussion" rather than "General Discussion"). Having to rename every thread in a bunch of the forums is a time-consuming step that I think we can avoid in the future.
Thanks for doing this, Susan!
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by TaylorH » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:15 pm

It appears that the 2018 FST General and Specific Question discussion was transferred from a usergroup to this forum. The set was not clear and there was still a planned mirror at Virginia Tech in the fall, though now that mirror will need to be cancelled for question security reasons. This is partly my fault for not making it clear in the set announcement post that a mirror was still happening in the fall, but in the future can the forum mods check with set editors to see if a set is clear before moving the set discussions? Thanks
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by jonah » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:18 pm

TaylorH wrote:It appears that the 2018 FST General and Specific Question discussion was transferred from a usergroup to this forum. The set was not clear and there was still a planned mirror at Virginia Tech in the fall, though now that mirror will need to be cancelled for question security reasons. This is partly my fault for not making it clear in the set announcement post that a mirror was still happening in the fall, but in the future can the forum mods check with set editors to see if a set is clear before moving the set discussions? Thanks
I don't see that forum? subforum? so I'm not sure there really is an issue here; are you positive?
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by TaylorH » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:22 pm

I can see both threads on the "Collegiate Discussion" sub forum. Maybe I can only see these threads because I am in the original usergroup? It looked to me like it was view-able to anyone, but it could just be me/ others in the original usergroup.
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by ansonberns » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:29 pm

I can't see them either. Try logging out, if you can still see it not logged into your account then there's an issue.
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by TaylorH » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:37 pm

I logged out and could still see the threads (along with threads from CMST, SMT, Historature, and others) a ways down the first page, as could two of my teammates when logged out.
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by A Very Long Math Tossup » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:52 pm

I can definitely see these, and I never had access to the discussion group in the first place.
http://www.hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewto ... =9&t=21172
http://www.hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewto ... =9&t=21173
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Re: Discussion forums for old sets

Post by Unicolored Jay » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:56 pm

As someone who was never part of the (now since deleted) usergroup, the threads are definitely there and publically accessible, so there is no real way to undo this since anyone could have viewed the threads.

While I didn't do any of the usergroup/subforum pruning, I'd like to apologize that this happened, and we'll be more vigilant about making sure sets are clear before removing them in the future.
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