Dominator wrote:Any good stories at least? Barrington's 405-400 loss was heartbreakingly close. On a different note, I had a player neg six times in Round 2. The first to guess said player gets fifteen points, as per IHSA standard.
All right, so I wasn't there, but here is what I've had explained to me what transpired in the Barrington-Fremd semifinal...
Barrington scored TU 12, and on the subsequent history bonus, the captain, John, offered answers of "Constantine, Alexei I, and Justinian." Silence from the moderator as he stared at the paper for a lengthy period of time, relative to how a moderator usually responds. He finally ruled no parts correct
. Fremd's captain, according to one BHS player, appeared confused momentarily before offering "Constantine I" and "Justinian I," which were ruled correct for 20 points. The Barrington captain, a very good history player, was irate and interjected that his answers were correct or at least should've been promptable if more information were needed. It was now halftime, so a lengthy discussion ensued on why John wasn't at least prompted. Ultimately, the moderator decided to award 10 points for John's answer of Alexi I since the answer did say to accept anything reasonable.
However, no discussion of the matter on the part of the Barrington varsity coach seemed to move the moderator towards either throwing out the question or awarding the points. Moreover, the Fremd coach allegedly asserted that, at the State Series level, the moderators shouldn't have to prompt for that type of information. This sort of buffaloed the Barrington coach as he never knew of such a rule, but he assumed the Fremd coach must know what he was talking about. Once the match was over, further discussions of the matter were fruitless as it was pointed out that the moderator's decisions aren't subject to later appeal or protest, rather disputed decisions had to be fixed before the match moved on.
On a personal note, I'm pleased I wasn't there, as I'm not sure I would've handled it with the grace and class that Mr. Baker apparently did, though I would've needed a rule book to find which rule contravenes the moderator. Of course, I looked up the rule right away ...
IHSA By-Laws wrote:4-C-1
Moderators may ask for additional information to be given ("prompt") if the answer given is correct but is ambiguous. The moderator
will prompt with the word, "prompt." Situations include, but are not limited to, the following:
4-C-1a. Names: Under normal circumstances, last names will be sufficient. If a question asks for a name, and does not specifically
ask for both first and last names, and if the printed answer requires both first and last name, then the player should be
prompted for the missing information. For persons who are historically known primarily by their first name only or by a
nickname, that name is sufficient (e.g. Moses, Dante, Raphael, Michelangelo, Pele)
And this is why I NEVER use a building staff person to moderate for my own team when hosting an IESA State Series tournament. I always hire at least one moderator from outside the school district to read for my team to avoid any appearance of a conflict of interest.
[EDITED: Amended remarks appear in italics above]
Jeff Price, Barrington Station Middle School Coach (2013 MSNCT Champions, 2013 Illinois Class AA State Champions)
Former IESA Scholastic Bowl Advisory Board Member