Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [FINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/5]
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 13 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Free Fallin"
Can't deny that Billie Jean slaps. I like Free Fallin' but it has met it's match here
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n 'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
Love Will Tear Us Apart is by far the best song left in this bracket, but I imagine the quiz bowl nuts will opt for Once in a Lifetime instead unfortunately.
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
Punk music is good.
Can't deny that Billie Jean slaps. I like Free Fallin' but it has met it's match here
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n 'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
Love Will Tear Us Apart is by far the best song left in this bracket, but I imagine the quiz bowl nuts will opt for Once in a Lifetime instead unfortunately.
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
Punk music is good.
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART ONE: SUBMIT BY 12/23]
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 13 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Free Fallin"
Michael Jackson was a horrible person, but this isn't a personality contest.
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
Michael Jackson was a horrible person, but this isn't a personality contest.
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 13 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Free Fallin"
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
Please submit your votes by the end of the day.
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 13 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Free Fallin"
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
Free Fallin'
no opinion
Once in a Lifetime
Craaaaaaaaaaaazy Traaaaaaaaaaaaaain
no opinion
Once in a Lifetime
Craaaaaaaaaaaazy Traaaaaaaaaaaaaain
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 13 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Free Fallin"
--I'm going with the "evaluate the song as an 80s song" method rather than suggesting any support of Michael Jackson, who indeed seems to have been a heinous criminal, though a person who was obviously traumatized in his youth (not that that lets him off the hook). Anyway...
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
--It wouldn't be terrible if this was the overall winner, though I presume it won't be.
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
--But this is an even better option as the overall winner.
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
--Shareef is wrong!!!
--I'm going with the "evaluate the song as an 80s song" method rather than suggesting any support of Michael Jackson, who indeed seems to have been a heinous criminal, though a person who was obviously traumatized in his youth (not that that lets him off the hook). Anyway...
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
--It wouldn't be terrible if this was the overall winner, though I presume it won't be.
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
--But this is an even better option as the overall winner.
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
--Shareef is wrong!!!
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 13 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Free Fallin" - Tom Petty just hits different - he gets heartland rock right in a way the Dross never does.
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine" - Would be a tie if Goth pop was any less annoying.
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" - Better act gets the nod. Very tough decision.
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train" - Ozzy is getting derailed by a far superior act.
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine" - Would be a tie if Goth pop was any less annoying.
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" - Better act gets the nod. Very tough decision.
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train" - Ozzy is getting derailed by a far superior act.
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART ONE: SUBMIT BY 12/23]
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 13 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Free Fallin"
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" vs. 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine"
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" vs 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
To be clear, I'm not judging people who vote for Michael Jackson. When people vote for Joy Division over Guns n 'Roses, however, that's completely different.
Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
80s BRACKET ROUND OF 16 RIGHT BRACKET
RESULTS
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" 13, 13 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Free Fallin" 8.5
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" 11.5, 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine" 8.5
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" 5, 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" 17.5
Hall and Oates were definitely the odd men out from this batch
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" 12, 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train" 9.5
good night sweet prince of darkness
RESULTS
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" 13, 13 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Free Fallin" 8.5
6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" 11.5, 7 Guns n'Roses, "Sweet Child o'Mine" 8.5
9 Hall & Oates, "Maneater" 5, 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" 17.5
Hall and Oates were definitely the odd men out from this batch
6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" 12, 10 Ozzy Osbourne, "Crazy Train" 9.5
good night sweet prince of darkness
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
80s BRACKET QUARTERFINALS
SUBMIT VOTES BY 11:59 PM PST 12/30
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
SUBMIT VOTES BY 11:59 PM PST 12/30
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
--You know what's worse than dirt on Jenny? (I've waited a long time, and if this gets me canceled, I'm okay with it).
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
--I think the time has come for my close personal friend Black Francis, but I can never vote against Pixies.
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
--Damn, I hope one of these wins, but if I was betting I'd put money on "When Doves Cry."
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
--You know what's worse than dirt on Jenny? (I've waited a long time, and if this gets me canceled, I'm okay with it).
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
--I think the time has come for my close personal friend Black Francis, but I can never vote against Pixies.
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
--Middle-aged man fight!!!! (Sure, middle--I plan to live past a hundred).When people vote for Joy Division over Guns n 'Roses, however, that's completely different.
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
--Damn, I hope one of these wins, but if I was betting I'd put money on "When Doves Cry."
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BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
Middle-aged is a compliment at this point.
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
Middle-aged is a compliment at this point.
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BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
rylltraka wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:58 pm 80s BRACKET QUARTERFINALS
SUBMIT VOTES BY 11:59 PM PST 12/30
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
Neither of these songs is the best from their respective artists, and in this case we can't blame it on the artists peaking during the 70s. In this case the blame lies solely on Mik. (I kid. Thank you for organizing this, Mik.)
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
Neither of these songs is the best from their respective artists, and in this case we can't blame it on the artists peaking during the 70s. In this case the blame lies solely on Mik. (I kid. Thank you for organizing this, Mik.)
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
If you recall, I had you all vote on this! On these exact songs! The blame must clearly accrue to anyone but me!Sam wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:09 pm 16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
Neither of these songs is the best from their respective artists, and in this case we can't blame it on the artists peaking during the 70s. In this case the blame lies solely on Mik. (I kid. Thank you for organizing this, Mik.)
...but seriously, what would you replace these with? For me "When Doves Cry" seemed like a no-brainer
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
eight greight songs
message MIA though
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
eight greight songs
message MIA though
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
I have no memory of this and would be very surprised if there existed any sort of written evidence, digital or otherwise.
I'd put a few songs ahead of "When Doves Cry," the most ahead probably "Purple Rain" and "Little Red Corvette." To be fair I skimmed a few "best of Prince" polls and critics' lists and "When Doves Cry" is often second or third, so the consensus seems to regard it more highly than I do. But "Purple Rain" still normally beats it.
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
Eight great songs.
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
Eight great songs.
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
Fast Car
When Doves Cry
Billie Jean
Once in a Lifetime
When Doves Cry
Billie Jean
Once in a Lifetime
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
BRACKET LEFT
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen" - This is the most 80s song left imo.
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" - Joy Division has grown on me. Abstain.
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" - I just like the Clash better, these songs are pretty comparable as long as "Rock the Casbah" hasn't been overplayed in your life.
Overall a pretty good slate for the 80s, excepting the glaring omission of an arena rock band.
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen" - This is the most 80s song left imo.
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
BRACKET RIGHT
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" - Joy Division has grown on me. Abstain.
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" - I just like the Clash better, these songs are pretty comparable as long as "Rock the Casbah" hasn't been overplayed in your life.
Overall a pretty good slate for the 80s, excepting the glaring omission of an arena rock band.
Ben
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"In the absence of any real knowledge, we're going with Song's guess."
"They're naming their kids Bilhelm and JaQuarius; I'm naming mine Grey Poupon."
"And then I said Michigan is in Canada in front of the whole school. The next year, I won the Geography Bee and no one even knew."
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [ROUND OF SIXTEEN, PART TWO: SUBMIT BY 12/26]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
A sweeping chronicle of Reagan-era devastation with one of my favorite choruses ever vs. like the 6th best 80s song about being horny. Not really a choice.
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
Rock the Casbah is one of the few Clash songs I do not care for
A sweeping chronicle of Reagan-era devastation with one of my favorite choruses ever vs. like the 6th best 80s song about being horny. Not really a choice.
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
Rock the Casbah is one of the few Clash songs I do not care for
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
here's a take: neither of these is in fact good
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
here's a take: neither of these is in fact good
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" vs. 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"
Ryan Rosenberg
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
80s BRACKET QUARTERFINAL RESULTS
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" 15.5, 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen" 13
only close one of the round
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" 6.5, 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry" 22
to be frank, if I was ranking the songs in this tourney #1-#64, "Where is My Mind?" would be somewhere in the mid-fifties
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" 15, 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" 10
why is the bracket so cold, you cry out in your sleep
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" 22, 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" 6.5
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" 15.5, 7 Dexy's Midnight Runners, "Come on Eileen" 13
only close one of the round
16 Pixies, "Where is My Mind?" 6.5, 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry" 22
to be frank, if I was ranking the songs in this tourney #1-#64, "Where is My Mind?" would be somewhere in the mid-fifties
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" 15, 6 Joy Division, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" 10
why is the bracket so cold, you cry out in your sleep
5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime" 22, 6 The Clash, "Rock the Casbah" 6.5
Mik Larsen
USC '08, UCLA '14
USC '08, UCLA '14
Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
80s BRACKET SEMIFINALS
SUBMIT VOTES BY 11:59 PM 1/2
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
SUBMIT VOTES BY 11:59 PM 1/2
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
Mik Larsen
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
When Doves Cry
Billie Jean
Billie Jean
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
I was personally hoping for '"Love Will Tear Us Apart:" Will Tear Us Apart?' but maybe that requires a closer match.
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
Fast Car vs. When Doves Cry
Bro when doves cry ain't even close to the best Prince song (tho it's still great obv I mean c'mon it's a Prince song).
Billie Jean vs Once in a Lifetime
Bro when doves cry ain't even close to the best Prince song (tho it's still great obv I mean c'mon it's a Prince song).
Billie Jean vs Once in a Lifetime
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
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Minnesota '24 '28
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Wayzata '20
Minnesota '24 '28
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
Fast Car
Once in a Lifetime
I distinctly remember where I was when I first heard both of these songs and they're very good memories. That's not true of their opponents.
Once in a Lifetime
I distinctly remember where I was when I first heard both of these songs and they're very good memories. That's not true of their opponents.
Jakob M. (they/them)
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
When Doves Cry
Billie Jean
Billie Jean
Evan
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [QUARTERFINALS, SUBMIT BY 12/30]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
Even thought neither of these songs are my favorite by the artist, a Prince vs MJ finals seems about right for an '80s music competition.
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
Even thought neither of these songs are my favorite by the artist, a Prince vs MJ finals seems about right for an '80s music competition.
Joe Nutter
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
The winner of the first matchup gets my vote in the next round. More importantly, I can now guarantee that a good song will win this tournament.
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
The winner of the first matchup gets my vote in the next round. More importantly, I can now guarantee that a good song will win this tournament.
Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
Oof, haven't voted in a long time.
When Doves Cry
Once in a Lifetime
When Doves Cry
Once in a Lifetime
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
It's a shame that the two best songs in the semifinal had to go against each other. "Billie Jean" vs. "Once in a Lifetime" is tough choice; either of those songs against either "Fast Car" or "When Doves Cry" would be an instant win.
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
It's a shame that the two best songs in the semifinal had to go against each other. "Billie Jean" vs. "Once in a Lifetime" is tough choice; either of those songs against either "Fast Car" or "When Doves Cry" would be an instant win.
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
Please submit your votes for this penultimate round today.
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
5 Tracy Chapman, "Fast Car" vs. 3 Prince, "When Doves Cry"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
1 Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean" vs. 5 Talking Heads, "Once in a Lifetime"
Ben
Harrison High School (IN) Quiz Bowl
"I will forgive you... this one time."
"In the absence of any real knowledge, we're going with Song's guess."
"They're naming their kids Bilhelm and JaQuarius; I'm naming mine Grey Poupon."
"And then I said Michigan is in Canada in front of the whole school. The next year, I won the Geography Bee and no one even knew."
"New Orleans commodities: stocks, jazz, and bees."
Harrison High School (IN) Quiz Bowl
"I will forgive you... this one time."
"In the absence of any real knowledge, we're going with Song's guess."
"They're naming their kids Bilhelm and JaQuarius; I'm naming mine Grey Poupon."
"And then I said Michigan is in Canada in front of the whole school. The next year, I won the Geography Bee and no one even knew."
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Re: Best Song of the 1980s Bracket [SEMIFINALS, SUBMIT BY 1/2]
Billie Jean
Fast Car
Fast Car
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Stat director for: NSC '13-'15, '17; ACF '14, '17, '19; NHBB '13-'15; NASAT '11
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Coach, Bergen County Academies (NJ); former player for BCA (2000-03) and WUSTL (2003-07)
HSQB forum mod, PACE member
Stat director for: NSC '13-'15, '17; ACF '14, '17, '19; NHBB '13-'15; NASAT '11
"A [...] wizard who controls the weather" - Jerry Vinokurov