Let's Remember Some Guys V

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Let's Remember Some Guys V

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Let's remember some guys again!

What is a "guy"?

Each tossup will be on a single athlete. The "guys" somewhat memorable, but not particularly dominant or otherwise notable. The main criterion is whether, after hearing the tossup, the players will go "oh, yeah, I remember that guy." (It might help to pick guys you actually remember.) Anyone too obscure for that isn't a guy. Anyone whose existence you don't need to be reminded of isn't a guy. Some examples of guys: Rick Ankiel, Smush Parker, Jason Campbell, and Anthony Kim. Examples of not guys: Derek Jeter, Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady, and Roger Federer. (The careful guy rememberer might write the occasional question on a guy-ish aspect of a player too famous to be a guy; for instance, I've written about the baseball/pro football careers of Tim Tebow and the Wizards career of Michael Jordan.)

There are plenty of examples in the packet archive for you to look at.

When did "guys" play?

Because we're actually trying to remember guys, try not to pick players whose careers ended before 1998 or so, or players whose careers are still in progress, although there is some leeway here. If you want to include some historical guys in your "other" category, that's fine, but the main MLB/NBA/NFL tossups should be on guys who retired sometime between 1998 and 2020 (or who are functionally retired).

How should tossups look?

The tossups should be no shorter than 4.5 lines and no longer than 6 (1" margins, 10-point Times New Roman). Clues should focus on memorable career events or off-the-field incidents. Particularly helpful clues--for instance, clues about interactions with teammates, trades, etc.--will provide useful context about the teams a player was on or the years in which they played. Try to keep the clues interesting and not almanacky.

What's the distribution?

Same as ever:

3 MLB
3 NBA
3 NFL
3 "other" (NHL, college sports, tennis, golf, soccer, Olympics, WNBA, historical guys, etc.)

Note that, in this context, "guy" is a gender-neutral term.

Although sticking to the distribution is not strictly required, I appreciate when writers make some effort to vary their tossup subject matter so that the overall distribution is reasonably balanced; it can skew the final results toward a player who's strong in a particular category if that category comes up significantly more than the others.

Is there any cost to this?

No, but the true cost is in not remembering. So if you're planning to play, you should try to write a packet. Writing longer or multiple packets is encouraged.

When should I be done with my many excellent packets?

Late September/early October. Contact me at [email protected] if you're planning to write but don't think you'll be there to read.

When will this tournament take place? Be specific.

We'll try to get together for remembering online sometime in October (perhaps on the NBA's opening weekend, the 22nd/23rd, although we'll figure out scheduling later).
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Why not a Thanksgiving Guys? Spend your post-turkey plans remembering Mike Williams or Mike Williams or Mike Williams.
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Thanksgiving could be fun! I'll put out a date poll sometime next week and we can figure it out. In the meantime, get writing!
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Cheynem wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:04 pm Why not a Thanksgiving Guys? Spend your post-turkey plans remembering Mike Williams or Mike Williams or Mike Williams.
What about Mike Thomas or Mike Thomas or Mike Thomas or Michael Thomas or Michael Thomas?
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I'd like to hold this over the holidays via Zoom. Would New Year's Day (or the Monday after that, which most people will have off) work for people?
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theMoMA wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:49 am I'd like to hold this over the holidays via Zoom. Would New Year's Day (or the Monday after that, which most people will have off) work for people?
Sure
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Please fill out this form about your availability for Guys on January 1/2: https://forms.gle/JMUvAoeFJpWMFNUK9
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Guys V will take place on Sunday, January 1, 2023, at 7pm central time (likely with 15-20 minutes of pleasantries before we get into packet reading). Details and Zoom link to follow.

Please have your packets ready by then. If you're planning to have a packet ready, please fill in the details on this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
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Please do put yourself in the spreadsheet if you plan to have a packet for Sunday.
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See you there in about 90 minutes.
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Congrats to our Guy-remembering co-champions, Tejas Raje and Jonathan Mishory! Each remembered 17 guys with a 1.73 PPG (points per guy). Full leaderboard:

1.73 (17): Jonathan Mishory
1.73 (17): Tejas Raje
1.44 (14): Naveed Chowdhury
0.83 (9): Dylan Minarik
0.81 (8): Evan Knox
0.64 (7): Sam Rombro
0.63 (6): Ryan Rosenberg
0.46 (5): Chris Manners
0.33 (2): Andrew Hart
0.30 (3): Sam Brochin
0.27 (2): Jackson Hampton
0.14 (1): Blake Andert

Mitchell Israel and Evan Nagler also joined us for a few questions. Packets will be posted in the next day or two.

Collectively, we remembered 91 of 108 Guys. Well done!
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