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biggiebird89

Sorry, but I don't understand what the goal of running tournaments like this is, or what is not "easygoing" about the way things are done now. It's not like quizbowl requires putting on a tux and having a herald announce your team's arrival with a scroll--we're pretty "lighthearted&q...

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RE: all trash postings Trash is fun but I am going to back Matt on this one. The problem we've had in New England is that we aren't all that hot nationally. Anything that trends towards better more frequent quiz bowl is all for the good (note the operative word better). This assumes that schools an...

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As it stands, I don't have a clue what they're doing. I've basically just be asked to pass along my guidance as to how I set things up, and once they have it, to let the club members go from there. Honestly I don't really care what they do, it was just my idea to give them 'something'. If they could...

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Lyndon State College had previously held two tournaments using the Fall Novice set - one in 2010 and the other in 2011 (both TDd by myself). The past couple of years they haven't held anything, though this year the club adviser (from the club who ran said events) said to me they were looking into do...

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If someone EVER were able to get more contacts from Maine, that would be great particularly for the New England circuit. When I ran my alma mater's QB tournament in 2011 and '12, we had an average of 10-12 teams total from VT and NH - one of my main goals from 2013 was to expand to Maine to increase...

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Unfortunately in this area of the US (a very rural one at that), most schools who are undergoing budget issues are going to be less likely to take an investment in something (regardless of how much it'd matter to the kids). I know at my former HS (where I sub at a teacher), I attempted to talk my fo...

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If it's the same as when I played, absolutely not (this is assuming that a team ONLY plays their matches in the league that season). The league is a 5-match, bi-weekly (it was when I played) season where matches are generally held at one central school on Wednesday/Thursday nights - half the teams p...

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I don't think I was clear on my "novice" point. I'm merely saying that, as the PSAB teams already have a separate JV competition, the fact that we offer a separate novice bracket makes it more likely those schools will come to PHAT as it gives them a natural incentive to bring more than o...

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We've had a separate novice division the last two years, and I think that has helped with out-of-state recruiting -- especially in the Glens Falls league -- so if anything, that will likely continue to grow going forward. I might catch Hell for this, but so be it. I played in the Post-Star league (...

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How to encourage the spread of competitions is an excellent starting point for a discussion, but unfortunately, it's one for which I don't have a good answer. Up here in Northern New England, I've been trying to get high schools to host their own tournaments or to travel south to compete for years ...

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Lyndon State College is in the planning stages for their 3rd Annual "Quest for the Nest" Quiz Bowl Tournament for Vermont/New Hampshire teams. We are looking to run a mirror of the SCOP Novice tournament set, and a couple of dates are being discussed for possible play (one in each of Octob...

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I think the cart is in front of the horse here - you need to establish contact with the teams first and just work to get them even remotely used to the idea of playing good quizbowl at invitationals and find out how many of those teams there are who are willing to play stuff. On the other hand, you...

biggiebird89

Absolutely. It'd be slightly difficult for me to have any sort of "authority" over something like this considering I'm still (somewhat) a college student and all. Definite things that would need to be established in the future would be: 1.) Some form of a list of coach contacts for all coa...

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Hey, it's the bizarro universe of the "four quarter is more fun" argument! Yes, avoiding this argument/discussion because, from the sounds of ^, it's not exactly the topic to have a hearty debate about, the whole point of what's been said is - there has to be a stronger way of uniting the...

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The issue is that many tournaments using four-quarter format also use non-pyramidal tossups. That could be one of the reasons why I dislike the 4Q format. I think the other is that it gives a feeling of being more trivia/game-show like in nature vs. an actual tournament or display of academic logic...

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I think that for the current quizbowl conversation at hand, it will be useful if we all agree that Upstate New York is that part of New York above Westchester, Long Island, and the City, as the last three are very close to eah other and play in each others quizbowl tournaments and rarely go any mor...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York Meh, really I think the point is debatable. I've lived in the southern Adirondacks going on all 23 years of my life now and have always considered anything north of Albany (along I-87) as "upstate", anything south of Albany as "downstate&...

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It's definitely a possibility. I don't know the cost involved with the PSAB up here - it's free for the kids, I assume the teachers/school have to pay a small fee (which involves a daily subscription to the paper, etc), but it's essentially the same format. We used to meet at Queensbury School every...

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In terms of the Adirondack portion of the "upstate" New York region Note that the other (northwest) side of the Adirondacks has a regular NAQT tournament ( this one ), whose champions sometimes attend HSNCT. Jeff - have a location for where this tournament went on? I guess speaking for an...

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That'd be the Post Star Academic Bowl (PSAB) - the league I was talking about earlier, and yeah, having read the "Criticisms" page in its entirety, that really sounds like PSAB to the letter - speed check questions, more trivia than academia, and the part about the 60 second round I comple...

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Queensbury went to :chip: nationals last year. I'm not sure what the other team is. I don't know either, honestly, and considering everytime I see that face, it's always used in a negative connotation, I'll take it this wasn't a good thing (I'm not totally familiar with everything on the boards, I'...

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In terms of the Adirondack portion of the "upstate" New York region, it's almost not even worth mentioning. Those teams outside of the Capital Region who don't do Masterminds, some of them participate in a QB league sponsored by a local newspaper. Essentially teams from about 25 schools me...

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Having come from a format in upstate New York similar to the GSC (especially the bad one-line questions, odd distributions, awkward formatting, etc), I didn't realize that QB was THAT well-respected and organized in VT (where I attended college until May '11). When myself and a couple of others trie...

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Understandable. Hence why I felt it better to ask which way was more widely-accepted. It wasn't so much about the clues, more than it was about the power opportunity. I see now that it's more about having said knowledge and being quickest to respond. Makes more sense to me.

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Also, in almost all tournaments, moderators don't re-read the question to the other team. They just start from where the other team negged. That might've just been a flashback to when I played QB under the format I played. If a team interrupted a tossup, the other team was read the ENTIRE question ...

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Have one more question that I pondered but couldn't find an answer to: Team A vs. Team B playing a tossup with both powers and negs on the set. Team "A" interrupts the question (before the power) and is incorrect. They receive a -5 for the wrong interruption, and the entire question is re-...

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As someone who is relatively new to this format of quiz-bowl (especially compared to what I played in high-school), the FNT set has been a great resource. Having never seen pyramidal-style questions before, or so on, and deciding to try and run a tournament for local HSs with these style questions, ...

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Understandable. Such a shame, 'cause this provided a great way for a young tournament like the one I've TDd for 2 years to get off the ground and going without much in the way of financial burden at all. There's always the SCOP Novice set. Which this would be the other set I've been contacted about...

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Understandable. Such a shame, 'cause this provided a great way for a young tournament like the one I've TDd for 2 years to get off the ground and going without much in the way of financial burden at all.

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Sarah - any particular reason (if there is any) that the FNT set isn't being produced for this year? That's a big disappointment, as the 2 tournaments I ran with it I've had nothing but great comments about the overall distribution and difficulty level of the set. Not too hard, not too easy, just ab...

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That, and the fact that with the set we'd use (hopefully being the Fall Novice set), we are not allowed to time the matches to restrict such happenings (i.e. 40 minute matches, etc.) We had this issue happen at my "Quest for the Nest" tournament last November, where one moderator (who open...

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Understandable on all parts. More than likely if this tournament goes, it would be a Fall Novice mirror, and many of the teams in this area do not play with negs OR bouncebacks on bonuses. The format played is a WEIRD hybrid of a 4-quarter format (I say "weird" because I played it for 6 ye...

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Howdy all - quick question just to clarify a common procedure at some QB tournaments. Situation : Team "A" and Team "B" are playing an untimed 20/20 game of QB WITH bounce-backs on bonuses . Team "A" earns a 3-part bonus after a correctly-answered tossup question. The m...

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Gabe - Thank YOU and the great folks at Hanover for attending again this year. We aimed to make it a great event and, minus a few setbacks, we think overall it went as well as we could've expected it to. The club is definitely looking forward to next year's version, and I'm hoping it does go on as w...

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Hence the reason I decided last year, as VP of the club who runs this tournament, to hold it. In HS, I played quiz-bowl for 6 years. At the time, I thought it was a great experience (little did I know that the style we used then, and that is still used now, would be/is shunned by the large majority,...

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Correct - I have not been aware of how to go about finding information about who can/can't be eligible for this question set, and in this area of Vermont/New Hampshire, there are MANY teams who do not often play good quiz bowl, OR quiz-bowl in general outside of their state's leagues, etc. The inten...

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Full tournament statistics can be found here: http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/36/stats/all_games/ NOTE: 1.) A game in round 8 between Fair Haven "C" and Lisbon "A" is marked as a forfeit for Lisbon "A" - the score for this match is 135-115, however no score she...

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Updating statistics now.....after 4 of 8 matches (overall, PPG, PPB): 1.) PEA A (4-0, 538.8, 27.63) 2.) Hanover (3-1, 382.5, 19.81) 3.) Fair Haven A (3-1, 340.0, 21.86) 4.) PEA B (3-1, 331.2, 20.91) 5.) Fair Haven B (2-2, 176.2, 11.47) 6.) Montpelier (2-2, 151.2, 14.80) 7.) Lisbon A (2-2, 103.8, 11....

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...I would love to see Phillips Exeter and similar schools show up to quizbowl tournaments... P.E.A.'s A and B teams attended our Fall Novice mirror held yesterday and completely dominated the field, taking 1st and 2nd place. They were, I believe, one of the first teams to contact us about particip...

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Full stats will be updated and loaded onto here by Monday at the latest. Our tournament started late due to 2 teams from one school getting lost and arriving late, and moderator difficulties in one room set us back around an hour behind schedule. Teams agreed at the lunch break (after 4 games) to re...

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So in the event that (like what it's looking like now) we do a full round robin of 9 matches, a "MVQBer" award would take the highest PPG from all 9 games, correct?

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Agreed with the above. My idea was doing the A-C teams first off, since there's a less-likely (assumed) chance a "C" team will make the playoffs in the end, and I'd rather have an "A" vs. "B" playoff matchup in the end, PLUS if that's the case, there's a 20% chance of 1...

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When arranging teams into brackets when you have multiple teams from a school, what is the best way of doing this to ensure an even distribution of teams in the brackets? For the tournament I am running, so far, this is my distribution (with no previous information about current tournament status): ...

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I hate being the pain again, but since we've got an 11th team, I am getting a scab team together for a 12-team tournament. My idea for this was: -2 6-team divisions, with a preliminary round robin tournament (5 rounds, 5 games) -Rank 1-6 by records (PPG tiebreaker) -Re-Bracket into 2 divisions of 6 ...

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^ That works better for me hearing it in that sense, and then I can break any ties between teams either with a packet (since there are 13 available packets) or by PPG, since it places less emphasis on one game, and all teams will hear all questions in Rounds 1-9. Since I'm also offering prizes for f...

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So the consensus agreement is that a 9-round round-robin tournament, with (depending on situation) advantaged championship is the best way to go for this tournament, or could there be a different playoff format done after the RR? Such as a 4-team tournament with the top 4, or something along those l...

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Surprisingly, the sports analogy makes sense to me. The divisions idea just worked for me because it seemed like the right thing to do given how most tournaments are set up (with divisions, prelims, rebracketing, etc.) Plus (and this is just MY opinion that I know of,) it also seems to provide more ...

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I'd like to keep at least 2 brackets of 5 regardless, 'cause I have 2 schools with 3 teams, and 1 school with 2 teams attending, so I'd like to make the distribution of teams even, even if they'll eventually play their own school's team, etc. Would it work better, for playoffs, to rank teams 1-5 in ...

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Since I hadn't thought of this situation before, but it is now more apparent it'll happen - what is a good format for a TEN-team tournament ? My thought was -2 divisions of 5 (say "A" and "B") -Prelim. round robin tournament (4 games, 5 rounds, BYE teams play a practice match) -A...

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Understandable on all parts - this is a HS tournament held at a college, being run by college students (mostly Juniors/Seniors) from our local chapter of a national math/science Honor Society. My intention is to make sure that they are dressed responsibly and adequately - this tournament (in its 2nd...

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