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by Ndg
Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:39 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

a Joe wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:16 pm they are proprietary and very complex
a Joe wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:07 pm I'm not claiming ownership over anything.
I think you might misunderstand what the word "proprietary" means.
by Ndg
Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:44 am
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

There will be ways to do things without being locked to one of the standard formats. I'm not pretending to be able to anticipate every possible tournament that someone might run. (Though I'd like to get as close as possible! I'm planning to release a preview of the next version relatively soon and w...
by Ndg
Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:44 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Alternate locations for ACF Nationals
Replies: 30
Views: 4103

Re: Alternate locations for ACF Nationals

ClevelandCavaliers wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:18 pm Each game will be hosted on either a picnic table or perhaps on the ground
People say quiz bowl players need to touch grass, but... literally, with their butts, during ACF Nationals?
by Ndg
Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:36 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Today I used Yellowfruit 3.0.2 for the first time. I have not done stats for a tournament with multiple prelim brackets since ACF Winter in 2020 and didn't recall this specific issue there. When I go to carry-over prelim games, I used the search feature to go team-by-team. Say for that team I looke...
by Ndg
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:53 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Yes, that's the one I would recommend as well.
https://hdwhite.org/qb/schedules/
I'd also advise caution if you're using SQBS to generate schedules, since iirc it can do weird things like put one team in the same room for the whole day.
by Ndg
Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:59 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Extremely minor quibble, but when browsing the "Team Detail" for an event scored with YellowFruit, the playoff legend covers the PPG of the last player on the last team [see picture]. I'll look into doing something about this but in the meantime I'll point out that it becomes transparent ...
by Ndg
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:05 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

A few tournaments (including mine) recently have used the 20/15/10/-5 point structure. As far as I can tell, this isn't natively supported by YellowFruit. Any chance this can be added? Superpowers are on my list to do at some point. Supporting nonstandard formats isn't the highest priority, though.
by Ndg
Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:16 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

AKKOLADE wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:11 pm If I enter a game as a forfeit and then go back to edit that game, it freezes YellowFruit.
I've uploaded a new version with a fix. Sorry about that.
by Ndg
Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:30 am
Forum: Miscellaneous Quizbowl
Topic: Introducing the UQC
Replies: 23
Views: 7308

Re: Introducing the UQC

I agree that there's nothing wrong with trying to make one's efforts in quiz bowl financially sustainable. Unfortunately, I don't see any evidence of something financially sustainable here. There's very little on the website that will foster trust from your prospective customers. Here are some quest...
by Ndg
Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:04 am
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

To be clear, I am planning to support importing qbj files with multiple games in the future (and generally move towards importing as much as possible from qbj files, not just games). I know myself well enough not to commit a specific time frame for accomplishing that, but it's one of my top two prio...
by Ndg
Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:39 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: 2022 HSNCT discussion
Replies: 35
Views: 10495

Re: 2022 HSNCT discussion

Below, I've posted a bracket I made while waiting for my flight that solves all of the above issues. It's definitely not perfect (I dislike the losers' bye in round 24 and the lack of a bye for the winner's bracket finalist), but my point isn't to make it perfect; it's merely to demonstrate that th...
by Ndg
Tue May 31, 2022 9:26 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: 2022 HSNCT discussion
Replies: 35
Views: 10495

Re: 2022 HSNCT discussion

I'm curious about the weirdness with the byes in the first couple of rounds of the playoff bracket . My understanding is that the particular numbers of teams that needed to start in the winners' and elimination brackets necessitated byes in the upper bracket that dropped down to the elimination brac...
by Ndg
Sun May 15, 2022 12:49 am
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

I didn't investigate the functionality you described beyond reading your post, but "Each file should contain a single Tournament Schema Match Object" sounds odd, since that means each file can contain only one game, which doesn't seem super useful. The reason for this is merely, "tha...
by Ndg
Sat May 14, 2022 6:32 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Another quirk that my brother and I have come across: We've discovered in the current version that when clicking "Save & New" to enter games, any phases clicked from the previous entry will not automatically be selected for the new game. It's resulting in having to thumb back to see t...
by Ndg
Sat May 14, 2022 4:47 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

I have once again attempted to publish a macOS version. I think I'm stretching the limits of what I can do on my very old MacBook, so I suspect it will still not work for everyone. If you attempt to use it, whether successfully or unsuccessfully, DM me with what device and macOS version you're using...
by Ndg
Sat May 14, 2022 4:39 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

YellowFruit 3.0.0 Game import. You can now import .qbj or .json files containing games into YF. (Thanks to Alejandro L for helping with this) Import files with YellowFruit menu > Import > Import Games; Ctrl/Command + H; or simply by dragging and dropping files onto the list of games. The sidebar wi...
by Ndg
Fri May 13, 2022 2:24 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Quizbowl
Topic: Pennsylvania's state quiz bowl "championship" is poor -- how can we fix it?
Replies: 10
Views: 3219

Re: Pennsylvania's state quiz bowl "championship" is poor -- how can we fix it?

There were some efforts to work with the Chester County IU a few years ago to make PSAC into a real quiz bowl tournament; those efforts are the reason it uses any NAQT questions at all, but the CCIU was unwilling to otherwise change the game format. (I wasn't involved so I don't have more details th...
by Ndg
Sat May 07, 2022 8:46 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: TJ Electronic Scoresheets
Replies: 18
Views: 11901

Re: TJ Electronic Scoresheets

An extremely minor issue: TJ Sheets does not currently export overtime games correctly to Yellowfruit. I haven't used TJ Sheets, and I don't know if the thing I'm about to mention is exactly relevant, but my impression is that YellowFruit is under active development and not making guarantees about ...
by Ndg
Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:34 pm
Forum: National Tournaments
Topic: Vaccination Policy for NAQT's 2022 In-Person Championships
Replies: 21
Views: 9761

Re: Vaccination Policy for NAQT's 2022 In-Person Championships

It seems that, in the last couple of weeks, the CDC has started to use the phrase "up-to-date" to mean having the recommended booster doses, while continuing to use "fully vaccinated" to mean having at least the original one- or two-dose series. Because my reading of NAQT's polic...
by Ndg
Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:43 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: THE ISLAND CUP III RETURNS IN-PERSON (LI/NY/NJ/CT) [NO REGION RESTRICTIONS]
Replies: 43
Views: 16715

Re: THE ISLAND CUP III RETURNS IN-PERSON (LI/NY/NJ/CT) [NO REGION RESTRICTIONS]

Remarks along the lines of "Why didn't anyone tell me to wear a mask? I would have worn one if someone said something" are pretty disingenuous, to me. The purpose of mask rules is so that anyone not comfortable around unmasked people doesn't have to continually confront those people about ...
by Ndg
Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:42 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

We're still no good to use this if I have an Apple, right? I haven't made any specific attempts to fix this lately, no (though I'm planning to get back to that in the next few months). You are, of course, free to try whatever version's I've published Mac apps for... they may or may not work dependi...
by Ndg
Tue May 18, 2021 9:05 am
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

I'm running an individual style tournament and wanted to try to somehow put the stats on the hsqb database. Is it possible using Yellowfruit to make a "game" between Player A and B that ended as 95-115 respectively a win for Player A? Player A would win because they buzzed out first befor...
by Ndg
Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:13 am
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

VSCOelasticity wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:45 am Can you add some instructions on installing and running from source for Linux users?
I can, but I don't have anything that runs linux so I can't make any guarantees about whether it will work. You can contact me privately if you want to contribute to making linux version(s) that I can release.
by Ndg
Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:04 am
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Trying to figure something out: how do I set up tiebreaker sorting? I had two teams in a round-robin end up with identical PPG, but they appear to be sorted alphabetically and not by PPB or any other actual metric (Points allowed per game and game margins all went in favor of the team that ended up...
by Ndg
Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:27 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Atlashill wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:20 pm Came across a bug. Apparently the program currently does not recognize teams who claim 100% of their bouncebacks.

Screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DMd57l ... eLYb6/view
Silly issue with floating point math. I've published a version with the fix.
by Ndg
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:40 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Right now it can only import the specific sorts qbj files that Neg5 generates, which are kind of weird iirc and on an older version of the schema. I'm happy to support more general qbj import funcationality -- I've been planning to do it at some point for a while -- but I don't really know anything ...
by Ndg
Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

My YellowFruit was working fine until I went to export the full report. Then it froze for about 2 minutes and finally crashed. When I tried to reopen it, all that came up was a java script error. I can't seem to open any of the files I saved to the program. Sorry about that. I have no idea how your...
by Ndg
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:53 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Call for Question Set Bids: AQBL
Replies: 5
Views: 2203

Re: Call for Question Set Bids: AQBL

I guess what I'm getting at is, what is your plan for when someone shows you a decent half packet, bids low, and later leaves you with twelve rounds of slop? I only ask because you're evidently trying to build more of a brand identity than "guy with a discord server", and I would assume co...
by Ndg
Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:37 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Call for Question Set Bids: AQBL
Replies: 5
Views: 2203

Re: Call for Question Set Bids: AQBL

What editing and quality control is AQBL itself planning to do with these sets? If I were registering for these tournaments I'd be worried about wild swings in quality and style from event to event on account of different sets being contracted out to entirely different groups of people.
by Ndg
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: Community Discussion
Topic: Y'all need to pay attention to your own community
Replies: 51
Views: 64113

Re: Y'all need to pay attention to your own community

With all the discussion about misconduct, I think the qb community should re-examine its stance on eligibility caps. The stories above are some of the many examples of how age dynamics compound with gender dynamics to create a really hostile space for younger, non-male identifying players. An envir...
by Ndg
Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:25 pm
Forum: Community Discussion
Topic: Y'all need to pay attention to your own community
Replies: 51
Views: 64113

Re: Y'all need to pay attention to your own community

So I strongly advocate that student-led teams work to find a coach at their school. Call it an advisor if you want; some teachers might balk at the idea of "coaching" you in preparation for the game, fine. But you need an adult in the practice room. If you think you don't need an adult in...
by Ndg
Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:01 pm
Forum: Community Discussion
Topic: General Misconduct Discussion (TW: sexual harassment)
Replies: 39
Views: 23244

Re: [TW: Sexual Harassment] Harassment in the THAT Online Quizbowl Discord

it is in general a good idea to have at least one trusted adult (and "adult" can mean a college player here) on the staff I think the key word here is "trusted," not "adult." There's no reason that a trustworthy high schooler can't perform the role you are describing. ...
by Ndg
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:14 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

When I export Full Report, I cannot upload any of the produced HTML pages to hsquizbowl apart from the _standing.html file - the others all bring up the error "Scoreboard report was not saved because it does not appear to be a valid SQBS file." etc. I've released a new version that fixes ...
by Ndg
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:43 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Ok, so whenever I open YellowFruit 2.5.1 on my laptop, it crashes and I get this crash report. Link to the full report: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KqmT6Wdd3WU8RSLoWNO5CyQiRYGQhb91YC-99H1eOsI/edit?usp=sharing I've published a new version that I believe fixes this. (I don't have a device tha...
by Ndg
Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:26 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Ok, so whenever I open YellowFruit 2.5.1 on my laptop, it crashes and I get this crash report. Link to the full report: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KqmT6Wdd3WU8RSLoWNO5CyQiRYGQhb91YC-99H1eOsI/edit?usp=sharing I've published a new version that I believe fixes this. (I don't have a device tha...
by Ndg
Sat May 30, 2020 9:28 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Thanks. I'm hopeful that some upgrades I've been planning to make soon will fix this. I'll have a new version out at some point this summer and I guess we'll see. Other than that there's not a whole lot of information to go off of.
by Ndg
Sat May 30, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

nick. wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 11:07 pm For me, it appears the mac version of 2.5.1 crashes on launch every time I try to open it. Is that just me or is it widespread?
I have not heard of anything like this happening. Any further details you can give me would be helpful (maybe).
by Ndg
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:37 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Came across what looks like an error of some sort. All of the headings for this entry are shifted 1 to the left starting with ppg. It looks like you didn't specify any divisions? If that's the case, then it looks like that cell was omitted altogether, rather than a blank space created to fill in. T...
by Ndg
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:07 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Came across what looks like an error of some sort. All of the headings for this entry are shifted 1 to the left starting with ppg. It looks like you didn't specify any divisions? If that's the case, then it looks like that cell was omitted altogether, rather than a blank space created to fill in. y...
by Ndg
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

I also was a little uncertain about the way to set up field rankings manually, but eventually figured it out. Looking at your stat reports, I think some of the weirdness is because you had single-elim playoffs (or maybe not quite... I can't tell) so you didn't actually have pools/divisions for the ...
by Ndg
Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:50 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

the interface is much easier than SQBS with one exception - in SQBS, you can tab into the field for team selection and begin typing the name of the team that is playing; in YellowFruit I was forced to click each time and select the field with my mouse before I could enter the team name. I don't kno...
by Ndg
Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Are there any plans to build a web-based version of this software that could provide live stats? BI used Neg5 yesterday primarily so I don't have to stand over my stats people, waiting for them to enter the sheets, and then upload a new stat report, before I go announce award winners and seeds for ...
by Ndg
Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Wow, sorry about that. Thanks for fixing it so quickly. Fixed the database to accept this. Sorry for the inconvenience. Anyone who uploaded stats this weekend might want to check if their games reports are missing and re-upload if it is. While we're on the subject of what the database will and won't...
by Ndg
Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:05 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

I've published a new version up above, with the following notable changes: You can now manually override final rankings (shown when reporting All Games) Use of "phase"/"stage" record to compute final rankings is now on by default. If this produces undesirable results, see #1 (or ...
by Ndg
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:37 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

I did have one import issue - on the attached file (ending changed from qbj to jpg to be able to attach it), it said round 4 was invalid for Maclay MS-Bainbridge MS which was 145-0. When I added something to both teams to make it 150-5, everything worked fine. I'm really not concerned with it, but ...
by Ndg
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

I don't think there's any point in having everyone dig out years of old SQBS files, if they even exist, and re-post the stats, if that's what you mean.
by Ndg
Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

Snoopy wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:46 pm Do you think you can add an import from SQBS feature in a future release for easy conversion? Not a programmer, so sorry if I just made an insanely hard suggestion.
What is the use case for doing this? It's not necessarily that hard, but I haven't come with a reason to justify the work.
by Ndg
Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:15 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: SQBS Help Thread
Replies: 48
Views: 56415

Re: SQBS Help Thread

Is there a way to manually set final rankings outside of editing the HTML report? I had an eleventh round for the top six teams and the real-life fifth-place team is listed as third on the report. Unfortunately, no. I've seen some tournaments create "divisions" (SQBS's term for what most ...
by Ndg
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:45 am
Forum: Databases and Quizbowl Software
Topic: Introducing YellowFruit.
Replies: 106
Views: 95108

Re: Introducing YellowFruit.

If we're throwing in state-specific quirks, I might as well put Missouri's forward since (as Aidan has mentioned above and also successfully advocated) several hosts here have switched to YellowFruit. Our overtime scoring is slightly different, in that 1) any tossups scored are one point instead of...
by Ndg
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:09 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: 2020 ACF Nationals A-Values
Replies: 18
Views: 6761

Re: 2020 ACF Nationals A-Values

In the future, I propose that the score at the end of regulation is used for A-value purposes, with TU21 ignored and not counting as a TUH. (It appears that this is what YellowFruit does when calculating PPG [but not other stats].) Just confirming that this is correct. Overtime TUH and points score...