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by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:22 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

NAQT has ignored complaints about their products many times with the simple quote of "we don't need your money." Depends on what the complaint is... the most recent such event I recall centered on the complaint of "A-series questions are full of leadin buzzer races." Which may indeed be a good sign...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:11 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

I have yet to hear a response to the claim I have heard many times that NAQT takes quantity of writers into account more so than quality. If offered a choice, today, between somebody who produced 100 good questions per year and somebody who produced 200 mediocre questions per year, I'd take the for...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:44 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

No, those advantages aren't unfair ones because those are canon and anyone could study them as legitimate academic topics. The subject that I am referring to was not canon ("current events"), and there was no reason for me to have even heard of them (as indeed I hadn't) unless I was looking them up...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:10 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

I think that the reason that PACE and ACF have maintained better quality for so long is that their writers, rather than being out-of-touch career people who played in college ten years ago, are current students and players who are in touch with the current standards of good quizbowl. They also lack...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:04 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

NAQT's problem seems to be that it writes for teams that want to do well without effort, I think that I understand where you are coming from, but I think a more accurate statement would be that NAQT wants teams to have fun even if they aren't committed to, say, practicing four hours a week or atten...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:49 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

First, the distribution. Certain fields are wildly overrepresented, specifically trash, geography, math, current events, and that mysterious catagory that I cannot call anything other than "NAQT vanity". Let's talk numbers; what distribution for sports, popular culture, math, geography, and current...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:14 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

I think a big problem with A sets, IS sets, and NAQT's question writing philosophy in general is that NAQT does not heed any sort of quizbowl canon that is actually becoming pretty well defined, at least at the HS level. If I were in high school and playing good quizbowl, I would know that reading ...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:58 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

I think you're massively oversimplifying the issue. Sure, that's a problem for good writers who want to write, but I've tried to explain why even good writers' good questions wouldn't make nearly the impact that they would in an ideal organization. Handcuffing good writers only makes the situation ...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:55 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

Are these character limits set in place because they expect more tournaments to be timed? We had this discussion/argument in another thread, already, i don't want to rehash it. There are two reasons that they are in place: 1. NAQT believes that better differentiation is obtained by hearing more que...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:50 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

I think the big problem, as has been stated before, is the length limit on NAQT's questions. I've been doing a lot of writing for BATE and none of my questions would meet the length limit, yet I feel all do a good job at differentiating between teams of all levels. If NAQT could increase their ques...
by rhentzel
Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:24 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT
Replies: 175
Views: 19083

Re: High Schoolers and Writing for NAQT

I am disappointed by the low quality of questions, as well as NAQT’s attitudes towards people like me. I may not be NAQT’s target audience, but I am worried by the fact that I seem to be completely ignored in NAQT’s business model. I own myself surprised to read this; I'll admit that Hunter College...
by rhentzel
Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:34 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Pennsylvania '08-'09
Replies: 39
Views: 4879

Re: Pennsylvania '08-'09

Why do those rules exist? That's ridiculous. NAQT's geographic exclusivity rules exist to give our tournament hosts a guarantee that they will not be competing against nearby tournaments using the same set of questions. That is, if a school in Iowa is hosting using Invitational Series #N, then no o...
by rhentzel
Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:28 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Pennsylvania '08-'09
Replies: 39
Views: 4879

Re: Pennsylvania '08-'09

If I remember correctly, Moravian and State College/Shady Side are in different "states" Does this mean we are not allowed to attend a State Championship hosted in the western half of the state? Despite the fact that our exclusivity rules treat eastern and western Pennsylvania separately (to reflec...
by rhentzel
Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:29 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Policy and Distribution Changes for the 2009 SCTs and ICT
Replies: 20
Views: 2383

Policy and Distribution Changes for the 2009 SCTs and ICT

Based on the results of NAQT's 2008 post-ICT survey, input from our writers and editors, and general feedback from our players and coaches, NAQT has decided to make several changes to its 2009 Sectional Championship Tournaments and Intercollegiate Championship Tournament. Those changes are detailed ...
by rhentzel
Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:26 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: NAQT 2008 Post-ICT Survey Results
Replies: 5
Views: 808

NAQT 2008 Post-ICT Survey Results

NAQT has posted the results of its 2008 post-ICT survey on its website:

http://www.naqt.com/ict/2008/question-s ... sults.html
by rhentzel
Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:22 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: My name's Mater. Like tuhmater, without the tuh.
Replies: 29
Views: 3255

Re: My name's Mater. Like tuhmater, without the tuh.

The Catch-22 here is that if there were more bids (warning: I don't actually know how many bids there were this year), then it would be relatively simple to split this into two sectionals. But there aren't many bids, because teams that would be quite capable of hosting 12-15 teams don't bid because...
by rhentzel
Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:19 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: My name's Mater. Like tuhmater, without the tuh.
Replies: 29
Views: 3255

Re: My name's Mater. Like tuhmater, without the tuh.

Wow, good job NAQT. That's now two years in a row that both SCT and ACF Fall (EFT, too!) have completely avoided the DC-NYC corridor, an area that a) is the most densely populated in the country, and b) is full of schools that therefore don't have good provisions for student parking and teams where...
by rhentzel
Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:41 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

All of NAQT's A-level sets involve a high degree of question reuse with television shows and/or our collegiate IMs. None of them is particularly high-effort (assuming that the other sets still need to be written). 1) You state NAQT A-sets are based on TV show questions, and Collegiate IM questions ...
by rhentzel
Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:27 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: 2008 Pre-Season Goldfish Championship: 10/15/2008
Replies: 81
Views: 15795

Re: 2008 Pre-Season Goldfish Championship: 10/15/2008

The Goldfish isn't an NAQT-qualifying "tournament" (If it was, I would have advertised it as such. None of my mailings indicated this.) It is correct that Goldfish-style tournaments are not qualifiers for the High School National Championship Tournament; this is for pretty much the exact reasons th...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:52 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Let's consider NAQT "SCIENCE!". Most science questions written by HSAPQ did have good opening clues (what a surprise...) There are plenty of hard science clues out there for relatively simple topics that NAQT could use. Let's say the answer to a science TU were linear momentum. The tossup could ope...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:39 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

If NAQT had more writers, we'd produce more regular Invitational Series. I take an issue with this. If I am not mistaken, NAQT has 100+ writers; is that not correct? How are these many writers not enough to be able to produce several quality tournaments every year? I guess I thought this was implic...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:33 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Actually, here's a question for you: Would you accept a tossup that consisted of the zoomed-in display of a work of art that gradually pulled back revealing more and more of the painting? Would you consider it to be "pyramidal"? Not really. To keep going with the visual tossup hypothetical, one tha...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:27 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

I never said it automatically became geography either, and of course that sports/lit question is not literature. It should not be counted as really anything but maybe general knowledge, because a literature tossup should consist entirely of lit clues, and a geography tossup should consist entirely ...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:24 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Where did the 9 minute half come from anyway? Why such an arbitrary number? I read as fast as i possibly could and still at times barely made it through 20 questions, and i consider myself an excellent speed reader. An extra 2 minutes for the game would improve its quality immensely. I wasn't a mem...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:18 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

And on that topic, because there is only so much someone can ask about high school basics, it seems to me in order to keep the sets kind of fresh they should be cut down by at least 1 A set per year. I can see why you might think that, but the fact is that NAQT's fourth A-level set takes very littl...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:16 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Something to chew on: I would say that a tossup that has some literature (or arts, or history) clues and ends with a geography giveaway is not a true literature (or arts, or history etc.) tossup, and should not be counted as one. So one drop of geography turns any question into a geography question...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:14 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

I would say because math is "lucky" enough that some part of it *can* actually be tested in the quiz bowl format. You can't ask people to write essays, do proofs, or compose music in the quiz bowl format, but you can ask them to apply mathematical concepts. So we do. If it were possible to ask play...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:03 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

And on that topic, because there is only so much someone can ask about high school basics, it seems to me in order to keep the sets kind of fresh they should be cut down by at least 1 A set per year. I can see why you might think that, but the fact is that NAQT's fourth A-level set takes very littl...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:59 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Distribution and length of questions aside, what about the charges of terrible quality that multiple people are bringing up? Does this have something to do with the tournament being hastily completed the day before? We're still collecting specific examples of questions that people consider to be te...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:50 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

And even if we accepted (2), NAQT would argue that a game with more, four-line tossups is more likely to differentiate teams than a game with fewer, five-line tossups. And I would argue that it's not important to differentiate teams on more questions when 15% of the match consists of questions that...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:38 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Additionally, when questions are made too long, teams begin to find them boring, potentially encouraging undesired consequences. Admittedly, the teams that would find these boring are not in the top tier, but tournament hosts need to remember who their audience is. Ultimately, nearly every large hi...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:25 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

That second paragraph should be primarily interpreted as referring to our regular invitational series which are targeted at experienced teams. Ideally, we would like top teams to play on our A-level sets as well, but those sets are written to ensure their suitability for newer teams. See, like, mak...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:14 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Okay, so here are some problems. First, there don't really exist tournaments of entirely new teams, so I don't care if they convert 85% of tossups. Until you get all the elite teams to stop playing easy tournaments (which is difficult since on a given weekend, you'll pretty frequently not have an a...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:45 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

If you're an elite player (or play for an elite team) and you simply cannot abide A-level questions because they are too easy, NAQT doesn't need your $12.50 so badly that I would tell you to go play on them. Those sets are explicitly billed as introductory sets for teams with less experience. Let y...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:43 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

I said it, did I not? I'm making the bold claim that it is easier to distinguish top teams on longer questions than it is to do so on ones of four lines or less. Perhaps. But is it easier to distinguish teams using more four-line tossups or fewer five-line tossups? What about more games with four-l...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:30 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Also, people should use the IS-A sets for what they're supposed to be used for - new teams and JV/below players - rather than trying to run a tournament with nationally competitive teams; I mean I understand that refraining from playing on IS-A sets halves your chances of qualifying for HSNCT, but ...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:24 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

It seems to like some changes in the distribution would help, as that seems to be the root of a lot of these problems. Guy, myself, and others have asked about the justification of certain parts of the distribution before, and as far as I know, those questions have never been answered. If NAQT cons...
by rhentzel
Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:18 am
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

IS-79 contained 6/5 painting and 2/2 sculpture. Yes, the geography quota for an IS set is 27/28. To me this is preposterous, and, being a player who is pretty strong in arts, I would like a justification for why geography is worth 3-4 TIMES as much space as visual arts. As an extension of that, I'm...
by rhentzel
Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:54 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

I suspect that quite a bit of the "visual arts"(not having seem what NAQT classifes as what) was filled by several common-link tossups that had only one actual fine arts clue. Also, please don't arts tossups that are laundry lists of titles. If you must write about a artists, and you only have 4 li...
by rhentzel
Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:48 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Did anyone think that not having per-packet distribution really screwed up 80A? Maybe it's only because they read 16 tossups a game at Walton, but it seemed like in the prelims there were at most 2 lit per round and in the playoffs we sometimes got 3 or 4. The subject distribution varied wildly bet...
by rhentzel
Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:39 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

I forget-which tournaments used this set? For what it's worth, I had serious problems with IS-77(paticuarly a paucity of visual arts), but at the tournament where I heard the set, we had a string of slow readers, so I'm not certain how much of the problem was with the packets and how much of the pr...
by rhentzel
Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:17 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

If no one else is going to address the elephant in the room, then I guess I will take it upon myself to ask: Why in the world are there more than three geography questions for every art question? IS #79 contained 45 fine arts questions and 55 geography questions. Of those 45, 21 were specifically v...
by rhentzel
Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:03 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Hey, I have someplace to go right now so I can't post an in-depth criticism of today's NAQT set (or certain other things that I noticed at the TJ tournament, for that matter,) but I'd just like to say that all of these comments on IS-80A apply equally to IS-79. Seriously, this was a disgrace. Sets ...
by rhentzel
Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:00 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

Eight visual arts tossups in twelve rounds, and this is being generous. This is more-or-less exactly what our distribution calls for; it shouldn't be any different than any other Invitational Series that you play. Probably that disheartens you, but it's not the case that this was a bizarre allocati...
by rhentzel
Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:53 pm
Forum: High school area archives
Topic: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A
Replies: 253
Views: 26136

Re: Non-question-specific criticisms of IS-80A

I've been following this thread with some interest and, now that I'm momentarily caught up with writing and editing, I wanted to post a few of NAQT's thoughts on the matter. It seems like one of the fundamental issues underlying this thread's criticism of NAQT is question length, so I wanted to addr...
by rhentzel
Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:52 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: ACF or NAQT - which is easier?
Replies: 9
Views: 1789

Re: other message board follies, part 400

The problem is that (1) NAQT rounds are filled with questions that nobody gets because they are on bizarre trash or personal interests of NAQT writers. These are the ones that people miss in order to make NAQT statistically less accessible; and Hmm . . . I disagree that these assertions are true. H...
by rhentzel
Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:07 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Change to NAQT's Automatic Bid Policy
Replies: 5
Views: 985

Re: Change to NAQT's Automatic Bid Policy

This actually discourages powerhouse schools from hosting twice in a row, though... right? Well, it's no different from the current (by which I mean "immediately prior") policy, so I wouldn't say that it "discourages" them any more than they were discouraged from doing so in 2008. But, yes, a schoo...
by rhentzel
Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:31 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Change to NAQT's Automatic Bid Policy
Replies: 5
Views: 985

Re: Change to NAQT's Automatic Bid Policy

This actually discourages powerhouse schools from hosting twice in a row, though... right? Well, it's no different from the current (by which I mean "immediately prior") policy, so I wouldn't say that it "discourages" them any more than they were discouraged from doing so in 2008. But, yes, a schoo...
by rhentzel
Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:28 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: ACF or NAQT - which is easier?
Replies: 9
Views: 1789

Re: other message board follies, part 400

Mike Burger has read at real QB tournaments as recently at the 07 MLK (not sure about 08). I have absolutely no idea what he's basing his retarded opinions on. But the 2007 MLK had an Adjusted PPKA of 537. That's like, IMPOSSIBLE. I mean, 53.7% of all possible real points converted? That's nowhere ...
by rhentzel
Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:14 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: ACF or NAQT - which is easier?
Replies: 9
Views: 1789

Re: other message board follies, part 400

"College quizbowl is dead and worthless and nobody wants to play it, because NAQT can't make money off of collegiate quizbowl. NAQT's profit margins are the only measure of how metaphysically important any activity is." Seriously, I'd like to see any evidence that the above is not exactly what many...