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by vetovian
Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:27 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Format of science questions
Replies: 58
Views: 23525

My frustration with this thread comes from the fact that your involvement with quizbowl appears to be limited to one highly nonstandard tournament per year, and you're making these grand ridiculous pronouncements, e.g.: "name this effect" isn't really science when you essentially know nothing about...
by vetovian
Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:20 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Format of science questions
Replies: 58
Views: 23525

I repeat the quote of mine that sparked off so many negative reactions in this discussion. I was thinking that what might be more rewarding to people who know their science from experience is questions along the lines of: if you do such-and-such a thing on such-and-such lab equipment, what happens? ...
by vetovian
Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:02 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Format of science questions
Replies: 58
Views: 23525

Also, lest we forget, computational questions remove one of the pillars of pyramidality -the fact that in depth knowledge should be rewarded. It simply doesn't happen in most computational questions, because it usually ends up rewarding whoever has the best mind for numbers, and quizbowl is not the...
by vetovian
Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:44 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Format of science questions
Replies: 58
Views: 23525

Maybe the fact that I fall roughly into the Faulknerian Idiot Manchild category when science gets beyond high school accounts for me not understanding this, but what was it that your alleged uberscientist grad students had trouble with, exactly? I thought I explained this above: A lot of the scienc...
by vetovian
Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:45 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Format of science questions
Replies: 58
Views: 23525

It seems like it would be a million times easier to learn enough about a specific book without reading it to get points on a bonus than it would be to learn about specifics of certain lab techniques in order to get points on your hypothetical bonuses. I don't see how this is equivalent. As far as I...
by vetovian
Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:20 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Format of science questions
Replies: 58
Views: 23525

ImmaculateDeception wrote:After all, it's a fine idea to write bonuses accessible only to people who've operated a specific piece of lab equipment?
Just as it's a fine idea to write literature bonuses accessible only to people who've read a specific book.
by vetovian
Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:43 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Format of science questions
Replies: 58
Views: 23525

Bruce wrote:
if you do such-and-such a thing on such-and-such lab equipment, what happens?
How would you make that pyramidal?
I should have said that I was thinking about bonuses, not tossups; hence, pyramidality wouldn't be required.
by vetovian
Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:13 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Format of science questions
Replies: 58
Views: 23525

At this tournament, I think 90+% of the bonuses were of the form: "Blah blah, for 10 points each, blah blah; A. (single-answer question); B. (single-answer question); C. (single-answer question)." I guess players must not find the repetitiveness of the format quite as dull as I would. There were a ...
by vetovian
Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:34 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: SCT Discussion Thread
Replies: 66
Views: 27397

It's been over a week since the SCT, but here are some of my impressions that I scribbled down, now that I have a chance to post them. I was a reader of Div I questions, at the Brock site. I don't have a copy of the questions. TOSSUPS : Overall I was impressed with the tossups and thought they were ...
by vetovian
Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:06 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Send your old packets to the Stanford Archive
Replies: 4
Views: 2274

I don't remember who runs this other site, but it contains packets from the recent BMMS and EFT and was referred to elsewhere on hsquizbowl.org: http://qbdb.ath.cx:8000/qbdb/archive/ It's great to see people making packets publicly available like this, but they're easiest to find if there's a link o...
by vetovian
Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:38 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Demographic Underrepresentation: questions and rosters in qb
Replies: 43
Views: 18524

There's something I find puzzling in talk about "underrepresented topics" in quizbowl. Any judgment of whether or not a particular topic is underrepresented depends on both (a) empirical knowledge of how often the topic comes up; and (b) normative criteria of how often the topic "should" come up. Bu...
by vetovian
Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:59 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: ICT location?
Replies: 55
Views: 20870

Outdoor quizbowl = XXXtreme quizbowl. The first Vancouver Estival Trivia Open , in 1999, was an all-outdoor tournament (link includes photo). I'm curious if there have been any other outdoor quizbowl tournaments. Back to the topic: NAQT's pattern seems to be to have the ICT on the west coast every ...
by vetovian
Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:42 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: exit, voice and loyalty
Replies: 85
Views: 36103

Good teams need to take one for the circuit and attend more bad tournaments. They don't need to send their best players, but they should send some representation. I'm too lazy to look through tournament results right now to see how much of a problem this really is, but I think it does happen now an...
by vetovian
Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:51 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: ACF rules of play
Replies: 8
Views: 3989

ACF RULES, version of 25 Feb 1998. Here are the five issues on which we asked for choices. 1.7. Overtime: Three toss-ups and then sudden death toss-ups. 2.2. Player substitutions: The version here says substitutions allowed at half-time and before overtime. An alternative version says no substituti...
by vetovian
Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:47 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: ACF rules of play
Replies: 8
Views: 3989

ACF RULES, version of 17 Feb 1998. To: ACF Subcommittee on Rules David Levinson <...berkeley.edu> Gaius Stern <...berkeley.edu> Seth Kendall <...memphis.edu> Peter McCorquodale <...mit.edu> ACF Leadership Andrew Yaphe <...virginia.edu> John Sheahan <...uchicago.edu> Matt Colvin <...cornell.edu> ACF...
by vetovian
Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:43 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: ACF rules of play
Replies: 8
Views: 3989

ACF rules of play

Back in 1997, the Academic Competition Foundation became the Academic Competition Federation, and a group of us interested parties, including the new ACF leadership, discussed a thoroughgoing set of reforms to improve ACF. I was on the subcommittee charged with writing up a new set of rules of play....
by vetovian
Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:41 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: How to study for HCASC switch.
Replies: 12
Views: 5549

ACF rules

And now the first post of the year in the Collegiate & Open area. So somebody want to write up a new set of rules? Sarcastic like that? I've never heard of anything like that before. Didn't get plugged in to it in high school and only did it in college when it was required for a scholarship, but did...
by vetovian
Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:45 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Quiz Bowl of the Future (split from NAQT sectionals)
Replies: 14
Views: 6382

I'm telling you. Record Hentzel reading the questions on tape/CD/mp3/whatever. One staffer per room to keep score, run the clock, and handle the tape/cd/mp3 player. It will be our substitute for the Quizbowl of the Future until they finish the HentzelBot 5000 with free Matt Bruce statkeeper with ku...
by vetovian
Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:59 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets
Replies: 52
Views: 35888

MaS, I appreciate your thorough analysis of the JPod question and suggested rewriting. Now, let's say I've read JPod and I love JPod and it's my favorite book and I wrote it; I know literally every single thing there is to know about JPod and when I wake-up, I hope to feel the sweet breath of JPod o...
by vetovian
Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:03 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets
Replies: 52
Views: 35888

If (as is now clear) you didn't understand the criteria by which questions should be judged, then you should have asked about those rather than trying to intuit them from the criticisms of your questions that you yourself requested Again, this dogma of " the criteria by which questions should be ju...
by vetovian
Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:37 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets
Replies: 52
Views: 35888

Catching up on comments on specific questions: Whenever I write a tossup with the answer being a country, I try never to include the capital of the country, because capitals of countries are the preëminent example of list knowledge. I might have included Chavez, though. So in part one you defend li...
by vetovian
Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:15 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets
Replies: 52
Views: 35888

After reading this, I regret that the name QuizbowlPostmodernist is already taken. When I asked for feedback on my VETO packets, I knew that responses would be almost entirely about things that people didn't like in them, and I hoped not only to learn about where I made mistakes, if I concluded they...
by vetovian
Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:20 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets
Replies: 52
Views: 35888

Some words about the vetting procedure. This was my idea, and I take full blame or credit for it. I can't think of any other quiz bowl tournament that does things this way. We started doing it in 2004, and I think it has worked well. (See below for details on why I say this.) But only the Vancouver ...
by vetovian
Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:04 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets
Replies: 52
Views: 35888

Re: Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets

I'm also looking forward to a discussion of the bonuses from these same packets: first packet bonuses and accompanying visuals second packet bonuses and accompanying visuals Tossups all have the same basic form everywhere, but I do some unconventional things in VETO bonuses, such as "given a page of...
by vetovian
Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:51 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets
Replies: 52
Views: 35888

First, I'd like to thank you all for writing your comments on the tossups of my two packets from this year. I think we have some difference in philosophy of our ideals of what a tossup is intended to be. The predominant view expressed here seems to be that a set of tossups should be like an examinat...
by vetovian
Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:57 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets
Replies: 52
Views: 35888

Vancouver Estival Trivia Open question packets

On July 15, 2006, we held the eighth Vancouver Estival Trivia Open and a mirror in Toronto, VETO's Eastern Trivia Open . I'm interested in reviews of the VETO packets by the broader quiz bowl community. Such reviews may be beneficial to Canadian quiz bowl writers and editors now at the beginning of ...