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by Ike
Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:36 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: 2017 ICT bids
Replies: 157
Views: 40644

Re: 2017 ICT bids

Obviously, the rest is history, as seen in this thread. Hopefully it's equally obvious that we never had any nefarious scheme to screw many well-deserving teams out of D-I bids for ICT; as Billy pointed out, this has generally never been a huge problem at ICT, and I felt like we were completely in ...
by Ike
Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:05 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: 2017 ICT bids
Replies: 157
Views: 40644

Re: 2017 ICT bids

You literally had to perform at least as well D-Value wise as Chicago A to qualify for this tournament unless you got an automatic bid. This is not good! Is there any chance the Chicago A D-value is a mistake? It would be REALLY FUNNY if it were actually a miscalculation, and like, they didn't get ...
by Ike
Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:59 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Eyes VIII discussion
Replies: 27
Views: 2243

Re: Eyes VIII discussion

Thanks for bearing with me Mike. I'll respond to a bit: I agree that Hercules and the Hydra is a tough painting. I disagree with your statement that "Even if the audience was a symposium of art historians, the tossup wouldn't have played well, since only the Renaissance art historians would recogniz...
by Ike
Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:34 am
Forum: Quizbowl History Forum
Topic: Greatest Upsets in Quizbowl History
Replies: 58
Views: 35053

Re: Greatest Upsets in Quizbowl History

In the 2009 Chicago Open a team of me, Andrew Ullsperger, Paul Gauthier and Evan Nagler (lol, what a team) beat a team of Seth, Selene and Sorice. We thought we were world-beaters.... until we lost the next round to the Rom/Tim Hartman juggernaut when Rom obliterated a toss-up on ROME, OPEN CITY (1...
by Ike
Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:26 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: SCT, autobids, and ICT size discussion
Replies: 131
Views: 43986

Re: Rocky Mountain Sectionals (Boulder, CO; February 4, 2017

Said person posting on the forums is hardly a secondhand account. Naveed continues to be in the right here. Will Alston posting on the forums is not a secondhand account either. Independent of everything else, Will Alston posting about how people told him that what he did was cool and good is, like...
by Ike
Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:10 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: SCT, autobids, and ICT size discussion
Replies: 131
Views: 43986

Re: Rocky Mountain Sectionals (Boulder, CO; February 4, 2017

Said person posting on the forums is hardly a secondhand account. Naveed continues to be in the right here. Will Alston posting on the forums is not a secondhand account either. Will is in the right. Less glibly, all of this talk about feelings is rather irrelevant to the discussion at hand. How te...
by Ike
Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:53 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: SCT, autobids, and ICT size discussion
Replies: 131
Views: 43986

Re: Rocky Mountain Sectionals (Boulder, CO; February 4, 2017

Is it really that wrong to publicly state that we had fun playing, and that others around us seemed to have fun playing too? Especially when the people who actually played didn't seem to have a major problem with it (and in some cases are baffled by the white-knighting of non-involved parties on th...
by Ike
Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: SCT, autobids, and ICT size discussion
Replies: 131
Views: 43986

Re: Rocky Mountain Sectionals (Boulder, CO; February 4, 2017

It's great that Charlie had fun, I enjoy fun as well, but the actual meat of his argument defending himself is the point that it didn't break any rules and that it had no real effect on the end results. I think the assumption by the community at large was that there was some devious scheme cooked u...
by Ike
Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:19 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: 2017 Division I SCT: specific question discussion
Replies: 24
Views: 2848

Re: 2017 Division I SCT: specific question discussion

In one of these documents, Susan Sandler said that a realtor had "found a handkerchief" with a "map" on it. Another of these documents, written by Tony Carrk, quotes unpublished speech excerpts about the film Lincoln discussing "public" and (*) "private" positions. These documents showed that Donna...
by Ike
Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:46 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: SCT, autobids, and ICT size discussion
Replies: 131
Views: 43986

Re: Rocky Mountain Sectionals (Boulder, CO; February 4, 2017

I definitely would like to hear from the Rocky Mountain circuit too. For all we know, Charlie Dees gave a lot of advice in helping out Colorado's circuit -- he could have given some recruiting advice, shown what real competition is like by acting as a stepping stone of hope for the Rocky Mountain te...
by Ike
Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:38 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: SCT, autobids, and ICT size discussion
Replies: 131
Views: 43986

Re: Rocky Mountain Sectionals (Boulder, CO; February 4, 2017

We do not currently have such a policy (so teams are free to travel where they wish). In any case, this doesn't look any more exploitative than teams splitting up their A teams to qualify their much weaker B team, except this one may have involved an airplane ticket. Ike That's not true. If Chicago...
by Ike
Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:46 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: SCT, autobids, and ICT size discussion
Replies: 131
Views: 43986

Re: Rocky Mountain Sectionals (Boulder, CO; February 4, 2017

We do not currently have such a policy (so teams are free to travel where they wish). IIRC, there used to be a policy in place, but Illinois and others pushed hard for a relaxation after the 2010 Indiana fiasco, complete with us almost dying while driving on the highway of death. This certainly doe...
by Ike
Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:59 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Eyes VIII discussion
Replies: 27
Views: 2243

Re: Eyes VIII discussion

Okay, so my issue with the tournament is that I just don't think it really worked on many tossups. A small number of these (maybe five total?) were just not great tossup answers since they are so detail-lax. I'm thinking of the Girl with a Pearl Earring tossup, and if IIRC a tossup on van Gogh's sel...
by Ike
Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:11 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: NAQT rules revisions 2017
Replies: 44
Views: 18324

Re: NAQT rules revisions 2017

As unfortunate as Kevin's situation is, I'm not sure if abolishing the clock doesn't solve the obvious underlying problem of bad logistics. Chris Borglum does make a valid point about the clock minimizing banter. My recommendation is to have a clock that counts up and not down, just so moderators ca...
by Ike
Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:55 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Eyes That Do Not See VIII - January 2017
Replies: 14
Views: 6689

Re: Eyes That Do Not See VIII - January 2017

For the record, the second half of your post sounds like a sensible critique, but the first half sounds a lot like sour grapes blended with a heavy helping of dismissive condescension. Nothing that's been said really gives me (or anyone) reason to think otherwise. Nice backpedal. Look, obviously yo...
by Ike
Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:32 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Eyes That Do Not See VIII - January 2017
Replies: 14
Views: 6689

Re: Eyes That Do Not See VIII - January 2017

I'm willing to believe that I'm not very good at quizbowl, but the only arguments you have are "I saw other people having a good time" and "lol Ike maybe you suck?!?!?" Vasa I've never met you outside for a brief moment; you've never met me and you certainly have no idea how little or how much i do ...
by Ike
Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:27 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Eyes That Do Not See VIII - January 2017
Replies: 14
Views: 6689

Re: Eyes That Do Not See VIII - January 2017

Actually, I think it's about high-time someone call out the poor quality of these sets. While I hesitate to complain about free quizbowl, this set...was not very good, much like the last 2-3 iterations. I'm reminded of a particular tossup involving a painting where I wrote a whole 10 page paper on, ...
by Ike
Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:44 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: 2017 WAO: Thanks and General Discussion
Replies: 14
Views: 2460

Re: Thanks and General Discussion

While I agree with Jordan's line of thinking here, I think the most important thing that this tournament could work on (at least in terms of difficulty), is consciously choosing easy parts that reward knowledge, are accessible, and not "find your ass" easy. I was pretty baffled by the Migration seri...
by Ike
Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:35 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: NAQT rules revisions 2017
Replies: 44
Views: 18324

Re: NAQT rules revisions 2017

I really do find it hard to believe that NAQT is so busy that they have to wait until summer to even begin to discuss a rule.* So it's very hard for me to not treat that as a disingenuous or "not sincere" response.

*And I say this as someone who kind of knows what the question production schedule is.
by Ike
Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:34 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: NAQT rules revisions 2017
Replies: 44
Views: 18324

Re: NAQT rules revisions 2017

Can you provide an example of this? I can assure you that every time we've said we'd discuss something, we did so, at least in the time I've been a member. That does not, of course, mean that the outcome was what you wanted. Are you just looking for posts like "As promised, we discussed it. No chan...
by Ike
Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:23 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: NAQT rules revisions 2017
Replies: 44
Views: 18324

Re: NAQT rules revisions 2017

I obviously am in support of having teams hear all 24 tossups (which is not the same as abolishing the clock.) I just want to make that clear for the record. First, I'd like to apologize for missing the opportunity to discuss the clock when it was an issue after the 2015 SCT. Simply put, it was some...
by Ike
Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:18 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Saving the IRC
Replies: 26
Views: 12221

Re: Saving the IRC

I have found the problem to be that what was once a more open discussion area, with voices and opinions you didn't hear much on the forums, has been taken over by a few dominant voices, who have the same stale views about quizbowl issues. Conversations about quizbowl in the IRC have become like bro...
by Ike
Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:19 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: NAQT rules revisions 2017
Replies: 44
Views: 18324

Re: NAQT rules revisions 2017

So, why is NAQT still requiring this rule for the players who most strenuously reject it publicly ? Why can't the people who are most likely to take advantage of this rule do so? The clock is dumb and actively encourages people, in many instances, to play less quizbowl and hear fewer questions . I ...
by Ike
Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:24 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: NAQT rules revisions 2017
Replies: 44
Views: 18324

Re: NAQT rules revisions 2017

bird bird bird bird bird wrote:For the record, the SCT is still required to use exactly ten-minute halves.
Wait, what? Is that rule for only non-official NAQT events, or something? In any case, that does seem not to be made entirely clear - granted I just read the red text.
by Ike
Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:28 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: NAQT rules revisions 2017
Replies: 44
Views: 18324

Re: NAQT rules revisions 2017

At the tournament director’s discretion, a tournament may use longer halves than those specified in these rules. This is a fantastic rule change. I urge every SCT site to consider using this so that teams can experience every question in its glory - (everything else being equal of course.) I know a...
by Ike
Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:49 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: The Brief Wondrous Tournament of WAO (January 21st-after)
Replies: 35
Views: 18713

Re: The Brief Wondrous Tournament of WAO (January 21st-after

What the heck? Every tournament has trouble with staff. That's why you announce it so that people can volunteer to staff your tournament! This is by far the most incompetent way to handle it. I would definitely put this under the "really stupid" category.
by Ike
Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:23 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Chicago Open Date Poll
Replies: 4
Views: 2671

Re: Chicago Open Date Poll

July 22nd is the most popular date for Chicago Open, so we're rolling with that. Unless I am mistaken, the only event on the docket besides Chicago Open proper is Auroni's literature tournament. Please post here if you wish for your event to be added to the docket on Sunday.
by Ike
Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:07 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Chicago Open 2017 - July 22nd
Replies: 60
Views: 30564

Chicago Open 2017 - July 22nd

This is the official announcement for Chicago Open 2017, which will be held at the University of Chicago at some later date. The main tournament will be held on Saturday, July 22nd, with auxiliary events on Sunday, July 23rd. The tournament will be edited by a team comprised of science speicalist Bi...
by Ike
Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:14 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: The Brief Wondrous Tournament of WAO (January 21st-after)
Replies: 35
Views: 18713

Re: The Brief Wondrous Tournament of WAO (January 21st-after

Wow. Maybe, you're the one who should be giving people more time by not procrastinating tournament site announcement dates through inept communication? Many of the people I have talked to refused to write for your tournament until recently because they had no idea if they could play it since tournam...
by Ike
Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:28 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Chicago Open Date Poll
Replies: 4
Views: 2671

Re: Chicago Open Date Poll

Don't forget to include your full name when you fill out these polls. The announcement for Chicago Open will go out soon, but I'll keep this poll open for a while longer.

Ike
by Ike
Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:14 pm
Forum: College area archives
Topic: Chicago Open Date Poll
Replies: 4
Views: 2671

Chicago Open Date Poll

Pretty self-explanatory - just include your full name and all the dates which you are available to attend. I will obviously have to coordinate with Chicago on the scheduling, so it's not necessarily the case that the most popular date will be the one that actually happens. Form Stay tuned for an ann...
by Ike
Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:16 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Continuing to rethink the distribution
Replies: 54
Views: 17315

Re: Continuing to rethink the distribution

I agree with Mik here. This does seem really like small potatoes at this point and an annoying elitism that really isn't relevant for most tournaments. I guess to put the scope in perspective, when I said "meat and potatoes" in that thread, I was bemoaning how nearly all the science questions in som...
by Ike
Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:55 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false names
Replies: 56
Views: 18466

Re: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false name

For what it's worth, I don't really intend to make this a "common" practice. I took a trip to LA to have getaway from the cold, stay and catch up with some of my fraternity brothers, hang out with a good friend of mine, and do one of the things I love most - play quizbowl, in person, with friends, ...
by Ike
Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:26 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Continuing to rethink the distribution
Replies: 54
Views: 17315

Re: Continuing to rethink the distribution

Uh, wow, that was long! Okay, so when I made the post about the "story of art" I don't mean in the Gombrichan sense necessarily. I'm reminded of the Christ's Entry into Brussels question that Eric wrote for Pennance years ago (sorry to keep bringing this up Eric, but it's illustrative.) I'm pretty s...
by Ike
Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:19 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false names
Replies: 56
Views: 18466

Re: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false name

This is silly--how was anyone supposed to read Jordan's mind to know what the "actual" rules were? Yes, I agree this is silly. And I do think it's bad that not everyone knew what was going on. But since it was Jordan's tournament it's pretty obvious he gets to set the rules of qualification (ie whe...
by Ike
Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:09 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false names
Replies: 56
Views: 18466

Re: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false name

It's not "apocalyptic," sure (and nothing about Naveed's post suggests that it is). But if you don't think that the clearly non-isolated practice of ineligible students applying for and receiving private special dispensation to play closed tournaments is a slippery slope (or toxic to the very idea ...
by Ike
Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:08 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false names
Replies: 56
Views: 18466

Re: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false name

Jordan explained the true eligibility rules, as obviously, those eligibility rules you all have quoted are incorrect since Jordan stepped on here to explain them! If there's any fault it would be on Jordan, since it's his tournament and he gave Will permission to play it!
by Ike
Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:48 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false names
Replies: 56
Views: 18466

Re: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false name

The problem with the title of the thread is that, despite what the title suggests, no one is doing this, because the tournament wasn't closed to begin with! And it certainly isn't as apocalyptic or slippery slopey as Naveed's post suggests. What obviously happened here was that Will got permission f...
by Ike
Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:22 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: A Six-Point Program for Writing Better Visual Arts
Replies: 4
Views: 2348

Re: A Six-Point Program for Writing Better Visual Arts

This an excellent post with some tips on how to write arts if you're a competent writer trying to add painting to your repertoire. I find Stephen's post excellent too -- I spend / have spent a lot of time removing subjective / incorrect wording from painting questions, and it's something that would ...
by Ike
Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:03 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false names
Replies: 56
Views: 18466

Re: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false name

Now that we're done talking about Naveed Bork's quizbowl America, I do think that there are points of discussion that are worth talking about here: the presence of semi-closed tournaments in some regions. I agree with Mike Cheyne and Evan Adams on their points. Certainly if I were head editor, I wou...
by Ike
Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:29 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false names
Replies: 56
Views: 18466

Re: Non-students playing closed tournaments under false name

I'll let Jordan and Maryland step in here to give a full response to this, but Naveed this does seem needlessly aggressive. Will Alston got permission to play this tournament from Jordan at the UCLA site; I almost applied for the same thing because it's a Jordan Brownstein tournament. I certainly do...
by Ike
Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:03 pm
Forum: Quizbowl History Forum
Topic: Greatest Upsets in Quizbowl History
Replies: 58
Views: 35053

Re: Greatest Upsets in Quizbowl History

I'll PM you with specifics. I would post the specific instances of this story here, but the set is not clear -- so I'll definitely do that once Terrapin is clear.

Ike
by Ike
Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:57 am
Forum: Quizbowl History Forum
Topic: Greatest Upsets in Quizbowl History
Replies: 58
Views: 35053

Re: Greatest Upsets in Quizbowl History

Chris Ray at Terrapin 2016 is a pretty legendary upset notwithstanding its recency. Great moments involve Chris literally licking his lips as the science tossup in finals 2 was being read before he completely shafted Max on that question, Chris beating John Lawrence to a music question using his "th...
by Ike
Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:50 am
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: community question clinic
Replies: 95
Views: 49699

Re: community question clinic

I think the entire point of the community question clinic was to make it so that editors didn't have to give a lot of feedback systematically, and to let the members of the community who really feel up to it give some helpful tips to new / budding writers. The truth of the matter is it takes a lot o...
by Ike
Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:37 pm
Forum: Collegiate Discussion
Topic: community question clinic
Replies: 95
Views: 49699

Re: community question clinic

Hey, so the community question clinic seems to have fired back up and I think that's great. One thing I'd like to point out is that writers should take some of the advice here with a grain of salt. Indeed, most of the advice is quite good and are things that writers, old and new, should be mindful o...
by Ike
Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:20 pm
Forum: Theory
Topic: On Exactitude in Science Writing
Replies: 45
Views: 19667

Re: On Exactitude in Science Writing

Bala, I don't meant this to be condescending, bu you haven't edited any packet submission tournaments to know anything about what new writers do and don't do. I hope that if you're ever science editor, you receive the same tossup on packets and Code Division Multiple Access that I did, and you come ...
by Ike
Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:26 am
Forum: College area archives
Topic: [REDACTED] - A Conspiracy Theory Side Event
Replies: 13
Views: 6165

Re: [REDACTED] - A Conspiracy Theory Side Event

This was pretty entertaining and hilarious! My personal favorite moment was being woned in teh face by the three-deep conspiracy tossup on "The Plan to retake D.C. from black people," which assumes you are a believer of the too deep conspiracy theory that D.C. is currently being run by black people....
by Ike
Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:12 am
Forum: Theory
Topic: On Exactitude in Science Writing
Replies: 45
Views: 19667

Re: On Exactitude in Science Writing

Personal class notes. These are especially pernicious because they give the illusion of accuracy and unambiguousness. Another reason why this can be bad if you don't look up the clue is that professors very often make up terms for convenience, that are not "real" terms and are used only in that cla...
by Ike
Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:37 pm
Forum: Theory
Topic: On Exactitude in Science Writing
Replies: 45
Views: 19667

Re: On Exactitude in Science Writing

I never advocated writing any questions using just Wikipedia, but perhaps a warning should be added about that. I am standing by my position that using only personal class notes is a really bad idea -- clues should definitely be verified with multiple sources. This post was vague about its target a...
by Ike
Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:44 pm
Forum: Theory
Topic: On Exactitude in Science Writing
Replies: 45
Views: 19667

Re: On Exactitude in Science Writing

I don't know about biology in specific, but if you're writing submissions for the categories of science that I do, I would much, much, much, much, prefer that you use class notes and lectures slides over something like wikipedia. One of the problems with this post is that it's not obvious who it's g...