FONS V (Novice)

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FONS V (Novice)

Post by FortOsageScholarBowl » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:50 pm

Fort Osage Scholar Bowl will return with its 5th incarnation for the 2019-2020 school year. Some distribution changes will occur.

4/4 History/Social Sciences
4/4 Literature (1.5/1.5 American, 1/1 British, 1.5/1.5 World, other European,Young Adult)
4/3 Science
2.5/2.5 Fine Arts (1/1 Music, 1/1 Visual Fine Arts, .5/.5 Other FA)
2/2 RMP (1/1 Religion, .5/.5 Myth, .5/.5 Philosophy)
1.5/1.5 Geography
1/1 Trash (this will be drawn from pop. music, movies, TV or sports - will be drawn from something relevant in the past year)
1/1 Current Events (as above, something from the past year)
0.5/0.5 Non-comp. Math (at least one of these will be a tossup or a bonus in every packet)
0.5/0.5 Comp. Science (see above)

Note: each packet will have 21 tossups/20 bonuses per round, the subtracted bonus could come from any category this year). There will be 12 rounds again this year, and questions will run 5-7 lines, with a goal of 6. There will be powers, with an emphasis on better placement this year.

Questions will be written by the Fort Osage Scholar Bowl team. Editors will be Joshua Malecki and Aidan McWilliams. Other collaborators have indicated their interest in helping, so their names will be added as we go.

If you are interested in mirroring this set, it will be $10 per team in attendance at your tournament/event.

Thanks, Josh Malecki

Current Mirrors:
11/7 - FORKAST III - Rounds 1-6
12/5 - FORKAST IV - Rounds 7-12

edit: 6/27: distribution changes and mirrors added.
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Re: FONS V (Novice+)

Post by Pedro/HCHS » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:12 am

Why is there 2.5/2.5 geo? What does "novice+" mean? Why is world and European history only 1/1? Why is there the same amount of social science as world and Euro combined, especially in a "novice+" set? Has any work been taken to avoid answerlines like "frozen lakes (prompt on lakes)," e.g. by hiring, or reaching any sort of agreement with, an outside, experienced editor?
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Re: FONS V (Novice+)

Post by Progcon » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:39 am

Pedro raises some very good points. Based off the history of this set and until these basic minimums of set quality are met, I'd caution against mirroring this set.
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Re: FONS V (Novice+)

Post by db0wman » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:19 am

Is there a reason that science is 4/3?
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Re: FONS V (Novice+)

Post by Deviant Insider » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:44 am

db0wman wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:19 am
Is there a reason that science is 4/3?
It's actually 5/4. See the last two lines. Also, the total is 22/21, but the post says the total is 22/20.
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Re: FONS V (Novice+)

Post by Ozymandias314 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:07 am

Deviant Insider wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:44 am
db0wman wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:19 am
Is there a reason that science is 4/3?
It's actually 5/4. See the last two lines. Also, the total is 22/21, but the post says the total is 22/20.
I think the post implies that they will be "subtracting a bonus", so it will be 22/20...if we're really entertaining this thought
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Re: FONS V (Novice+)

Post by jij03 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:54 am

Pedro/HCHS wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:12 am
Why is there 2.5/2.5 geo?
Pedro,

Here's what I can tell you

We reduced the number of Geo because of the complaints that arose when we had 3/3.

My coach enjoys writing Cross link questions (your example). I can't confirm that there will be an effort to reduce the number of tossups in that style, but I will have a conversation with my coach about doing so.

Also, I'm making an effort to improve the "Reverse Pyramidal" effect of FONS, as that's an issue that comes up frequently.

Thanks for your comments.
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Re: FONS V (Novice+)

Post by jij03 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:01 pm

Pedro/HCHS wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:12 am
Experienced editor?
So far, Matt Mitchell, Eric Mukherjee, and David Dennis (Washington MO) have agreed to assist me in evaluating the set. I am not sure if they will be on staff (paid), but I will make sure the packets go through them after editing occurs. and get a mention if they do help out.
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Re: FONS V (Novice+)

Post by jij03 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:05 pm

Ozymandias314 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:07 am
Deviant Insider wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:44 am
db0wman wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:19 am
Is there a reason that science is 4/3?
It's actually 5/4. See the last two lines. Also, the total is 22/21, but the post says the total is 22/20.
I think the post implies that they will be "subtracting a bonus", so it will be 22/20...if we're really entertaining this thought
The thought is that this will allow for a Tie breaker. Another system could be implemented though
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Re: FONS V (Novice+)

Post by jij03 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:14 pm

Hey Folks,
Feel free to PM me with questions, Try to be brief. Or talk to me over discord.
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Re: FONS V (Novice)

Post by FortOsageScholarBowl » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:53 pm

After much thought, we have decided to shut down FONS V for the year, with no intention of returning soon. With all the sets around, we've been lost in the shuffle. Hopefully, everyone who was looking for sets finds what they want for the year. It has been a tumultuous 4 years, but we will continue our AUX Cord Trash set, and maybe some other Trash items. As for the commentary regarding FONS, I'll reserve comment with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mf3Bypyk8
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Re: FONS V (Novice)

Post by Snoopy » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:16 pm

You sound like this lady (warning: language).

"Oh yeah, our set stinks and our customers hate it, as they have for years, but yeah, let's keep doing the same thing because I'm always right!"

Yes, it DOES REALLY MATTER to the people who are playing your set and the TDs who have to pay for these questions. So yeah, screw you too. FONS won't be missed.
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Re: FONS V (Novice)

Post by FortOsageScholarBowl » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:42 am

Clearly a Camp Mohawk supporter...
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