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Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:51 am
by Your Genie Felon, Me
The Seinfeld packet read was a lot of fun, thanks for everyone coming to play it. You can see the packet here. Scores (statline superpowers-powers-10s-negs): Matt Lafer 130 (5-2-0-0), Mike Cheyne 70 (4-0-0-2), John Lawrence 65 (3-1-0-2), Pat Steely 40 (2-0-0-0), Jason Thompson 35 (2-0-0-1), Dan Passner 15 (1 power), Ophir -5 (1 neg), Victor -5 (1 neg), everyone else 0 (people went in and out of the room while I was reading so I don't actually know everyone that was there but Auroni, Haala, Tejas, Aaron Pellowski Stephen Eltinge).

I followed on Ophir's vain and analyzed all (correct) buzzes with respect to my optimistic and pessimistic estimates of where people would get the TUs correct at a spreadsheet here (spoiler warning). tl;dr 11 correct buzzes were earlier than my optimistic estimates, 6 correct buzzes were either exactly or basically at my optimistic estimates, 1 buzz was in between the optimistic and pessimistic estimates, and 2 buzzes were exactly at my pessimistic estimates. So it's fair to say that my estimates significantly underestimated this field, though I guess I couldn't really know what to expect.

Criticisms of the packet include unwise firstlines, bad-ish cliffs in superpower and power, and some ill-conceived answerlines (Jerry's ex-gfs and Elaine's offices). I'm glad I asked for criticisms of the packet because, given this was my first time ever trying to edit a packet for good gameplay, I'm inexperienced in creating good pyramidal TUs. I will for sure edit together another packet and read it sometime in the next couple of months, and it'll hopefully be devoid of those criticisms.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:44 am
by ThisIsMyUsername
I wrote:Sometime this week, probably Thursday or Friday night, I will read this year's iteration of my annual Before & After packet.
I'm going to read this tomorrow (6/16) night at circa 9:30 central time.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:27 pm
by That DCC guy
Well are u gonna read this online or what? Where are u gonna read this?

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:38 pm
by Cheynem
Presumably in #quizbowl in the IRC, where the vast majority of these packets are read.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:39 pm
by That DCC guy
Cheynem wrote:Presumably in #quizbowl in the IRC, where the vast majority of these packets are read.
Thank u I forgot that's where they're read

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:51 pm
by sambrochin
Your Feline Genome wrote:The Seinfeld packet read was a lot of fun, thanks for everyone coming to play it. You can see the packet here. Scores (statline superpowers-powers-10s-negs): Matt Lafer 130 (5-2-0-0), Mike Cheyne 70 (4-0-0-2), John Lawrence 65 (3-1-0-2), Pat Steely 40 (2-0-0-0), Jason Thompson 35 (2-0-0-1), Dan Passner 15 (1 power), Ophir -5 (1 neg), Victor -5 (1 neg), everyone else 0 (people went in and out of the room while I was reading so I don't actually know everyone that was there but Auroni, Haala, Tejas, Aaron Pellowski Stephen Eltinge).

I followed on Ophir's vain and analyzed all (correct) buzzes with respect to my optimistic and pessimistic estimates of where people would get the TUs correct at a spreadsheet here (spoiler warning). tl;dr 11 correct buzzes were earlier than my optimistic estimates, 6 correct buzzes were either exactly or basically at my optimistic estimates, 1 buzz was in between the optimistic and pessimistic estimates, and 2 buzzes were exactly at my pessimistic estimates. So it's fair to say that my estimates significantly underestimated this field, though I guess I couldn't really know what to expect.

Criticisms of the packet include unwise firstlines, bad-ish cliffs in superpower and power, and some ill-conceived answerlines (Jerry's ex-gfs and Elaine's offices). I'm glad I asked for criticisms of the packet because, given this was my first time ever trying to edit a packet for good gameplay, I'm inexperienced in creating good pyramidal TUs. I will for sure edit together another packet and read it sometime in the next couple of months, and it'll hopefully be devoid of those criticisms.
Reading through this, this looks great. Wish I could've been there. Also, it's Kel Varnsen, not Ken.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:17 pm
by Your Genie Felon, Me
sambrochin wrote:
Your Feline Genome wrote:Also, it's Kel Varnsen, not Ken.
…@#$! Advantage, Brochin…

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:15 pm
by ThisIsMyUsername
ThisIsMyUsername wrote:
I wrote:Sometime this week, probably Thursday or Friday night, I will read this year's iteration of my annual Before & After packet.
I'm going to read this tomorrow (6/16) night at circa 9:30 central time.
This is starting in 15 minutes in #mashuppacket.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:14 pm
by ThisIsMyUsername
Scores from the Before & After Packet:

Will Nediger: 50
Auroni: 35
Rob: 35
Evan: 20
Tejas: 20
Kenji: 20
William: 10
Jeff: 10
Richard Yu: 10
Mike Cheyne: 10
Mike Etzkorn: 10
Stephen Eltinge: -5
Maryland B: -20

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:05 pm
by women, fire and dangerous things
It's been a while since I read a packet in the IRC, so I'll read a film packet tomorrow at 10:00 Eastern.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:28 pm
by women, fire and dangerous things
women, fire and dangerous things wrote:It's been a while since I read a packet in the IRC, so I'll read a film packet tomorrow at 10:00 Eastern.
Just a reminder that this is happening in half an hour.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:54 pm
by women, fire and dangerous things
Due to some skulduggery from Carsten, Sam Bailey won my packet in thrilling fashion by overtaking Mike Cheyne and Matt Lafer on the last tossup.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:02 pm
by Auroni
I have received permission to read my CO team's edited packet, which I will do on IRC (#quizbowl) tomorrow at 9 PM EST, along with outtakes.

EDIT: see below post

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:34 am
by Adventure Temple Trail
Auroni wrote:I have received permission to read my CO team's edited packet, which I will do on IRC (#quizbowl) tomorrow at 9 PM EST, along with outtakes.
After talking it through with Auroni and John, the schedule for CO readings is being changed somewhat. Starting tonight at 8 PM EST, we'll be reading the remaining three editors' packets of CO straight through in channel #COFinals. After that, others are welcomed to read their packets or cut submissions as they see fit, with Auroni having the first spot.

To make this somewhat more exciting, I'm willing to keep individual scores for tossups and room PPB for bonuses.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:48 am
by Cheynem
Matt, I'm willing to assist by keeping score, provided my Internet doesn't go out.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:09 pm
by Adventure Temple Trail
Adventure Temple Trail wrote:
Auroni wrote:I have received permission to read my CO team's edited packet, which I will do on IRC (#quizbowl) tomorrow at 9 PM EST, along with outtakes.
After talking it through with Auroni and John, the schedule for CO readings is being changed somewhat. Starting tonight at 8 PM EST, we'll be reading the remaining three editors' packets of CO straight through in channel #COFinals. After that, others are welcomed to read their packets or cut submissions as they see fit, with Auroni having the first spot.

To make this somewhat more exciting, I'm willing to keep individual scores for tossups and room PPB for bonuses.
Across the three packets, no tossups went dead, and the leading scorers were:
Jacob Reed (10/2/0, 170 points)
Eric Mukherjee (6/6/2, 140 points)
Jordan Brownstein (8/1/0, 130 points)
followed by Stephen Liu at 45 and Ophir Lifshitz at 35.

It turns out that if you offer to put all of quizbowl in a room and read them 63 bonuses at Chicago Open difficulty, they will get 24.60 PPB.

Megascoresheet is linked. More people played / were in the room, but nobody got a column until they buzzed in on a tossup. (And not everyone was there the whole time -- the last five columns or so depict people who showed up for Finals 2 but not the prior two packets.)

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:51 pm
by Amizda Calyx
I have like 70+ tossups from the last 2.5 years that have variously been spoiled my own self, are too hard, are really bad, are repeats with other things I've written (most questions I write have parallel siblings on the same or a related topic that I write at the same time and then never use), and/or are too ridiculous in content to be used anywhere. If people want to hear them sometime, let me know. They are not good, especially the non-bio ones; range in difficulty from like fall to CO+; span between like four and 15 lines; and cover a variety of topics. Also at least five people have heard many of them; if you believe you are someone to whom I have read unsubmitted shitty questions, just refrain from buzzing on the ones you remember. A good portion of them also don't have giveaways or pre-FTP sentences and just end. I won't be editing them since I have more important obligations, so players will get an exciting glimpse into how 2014 noob-Joelle approached writing for quizbowl ("poorly") and what she thought were important concepts.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:16 pm
by Muriel Axon
Amizda Calyx wrote:I have like 70+ tossups from the last 2.5 years that have variously been spoiled my own self, are too hard, are really bad, are repeats with other things I've written (most questions I write have parallel siblings on the same or a related topic that I write at the same time and then never use), and/or are too ridiculous in content to be used anywhere. If people want to hear them sometime, let me know. They are not good, especially the non-bio ones; range in difficulty from like fall to CO+; span between like four and 15 lines; and cover a variety of topics. Also at least five people have heard many of them; if you believe you are someone to whom I have read unsubmitted shitty questions, just refrain from buzzing on the ones you remember. A good portion of them also don't have giveaways or pre-FTP sentences and just end. I won't be editing them since I have more important obligations, so players will get an exciting glimpse into how 2014 noob-Joelle approached writing for quizbowl ("poorly") and what she thought were important concepts.
I'd like to hear them, or at least the biology ones!

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:17 pm
by Cheynem
In order to study for Mik Larsen's NBA thing, I've written a bunch of short NBA tossups that I will read after Side Event weekend sometime.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:36 pm
by Cheynem
I will read my Tricon packet and Film Packet for people not playing those events (or I guess if you're planning on reading for those events or reading those packets specifically) tonight in the IRC at 9 PM EST.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:04 pm
by Adventure Temple Trail
Cheynem wrote:I will read my Tricon packet and Film Packet for people not playing those events (or I guess if you're planning on reading for those events or reading those packets specifically) tonight in the IRC at 9 PM EST.
Wouldn't it be better to wait until after those events are run?

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:08 pm
by Cheynem
I don't know--is there like a preponderance of people planning on cheating at guerrilla events? I don't have a ton of free time in evenings next week, so I decided to do it tonight. It also frees up people who can staff these events at their sites to still get to play and hear the packet.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:44 pm
by Amizda Calyx
I probably won't be able to read my questions until later mid-August since I have to finish a stupid fellowship app.

I'm still curating random questions, but so far the distribution is:

Art: 13
Bio: 16
Biochem: 4
Chem: 3
Geo: 2
History: 8
Lit: 8
Medicine: 11
Myth: 1
Other ac: 4
Other sci: 2
Soc: 2
Trash: 1

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:48 pm
by UlyssesInvictus
I'll probably read 2-3 packets of GRAPHIC sometime Monday evening, around 9ish EST, on IRC (#quizbgraphic) (edit: let's say 9:30 to be specific)

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:57 pm
by Mike Bentley
Mike Bentley wrote:
Mike Bentley wrote:
Mike Bentley wrote:I have a Pacific Northwest themed packet I wrote (and edited to be a bit more palatable for a nationwide audience) and an amusing primary-themed half-packet UW team member Jefferson van Wagenen wrote. May read it Thursday night around maybe 10 PM EDT.
Ended up being busy last night. Will read this on the weekend at some point.
I'll read this around 10:30 eastern tonight.
If I'm remembering correctly, Rob won both of these. I've attached the packets.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:27 pm
by UlyssesInvictus
UlyssesInvictus wrote:I'll probably read 2-3 packets of GRAPHIC sometime Monday evening, around 9ish EST, on IRC (#quizbgraphic) (edit: let's say 9:30 to be specific)
This happened. Summing over 3 rounds, scores were:

Finn: 245
Saul: 70
Aakash: 155
Stephen E.: 55
Steven S.: 40
Gabe: 10

I'll probably read the last 3 packets later this week, or next week.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:50 pm
by eliza.grames
I'll read my second Clickhole packet in the IRC at 8pm Eastern time on Sunday (8/21). If there are enough people that haven't heard the first one, I suppose I could do that too.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:06 pm
by eliza.grames
I have a "bird" themed packet by Wilton Rao to read in the IRC tomorrow at around 8pm Eastern time tomorrow (Sunday, 8/28). Having heard this packet, I can assure you that you don't actually need to know anything about birds to play it, and I only got one question off of "real" birds knowledge because the first clue was about a researcher in my department.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:56 pm
by Important Bird Area
eliza.grames wrote:I can assure you that you don't actually need to know anything about birds to play it, and I only got one question off of "real" birds knowledge
And this post started out so well!

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:25 am
by eliza.grames
bird bird bird bird bird wrote:
eliza.grames wrote:I can assure you that you don't actually need to know anything about birds to play it, and I only got one question off of "real" birds knowledge
And this post started out so well!
I was also was mildly disappointed by the lack of actual birds, but hey, at least it involves birds!

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:06 pm
by kdroge
I've been meaning to read my tricon packet, which I forgot on my work computer so I couldn't read it in actual tricon this year, for a while. I'll read this tonight after the birds packet. It features me trying to write lots of literature and special trash contributions from Saul Hankin.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:01 pm
by kdroge
The final scores from the tricon packet:

Will: 160
Kenji: 5
Mib: -5
Adam: -5
Naveed: 10
Ricky: -5
Stephen: 55
Adam: -5
Mike: 25
Wang: 55
Chris: 25
Matt: 20
Will Overman: 30
Pat: 20

Will was first, with Stephen and Wang tied for second. Thanks to all who played, and I'll send the packet along so that it can be included in this year's tricon set if possible.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:30 pm
by jasongg17
Just out of curiosity, I'm thinking of writing a Broadway packet, possibly for Festivus. Would there be any interest in such a thing?

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:33 pm
by The Bold Ideas of Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
jasongg17 wrote:Just out of curiosity, I'm thinking of writing a Broadway packet, possibly for Festivus. Would there be any interest in such a thing?
Yup

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:47 pm
by 1992 in spaceflight
merv1618 wrote:
jasongg17 wrote:Just out of curiosity, I'm thinking of writing a Broadway packet, possibly for Festivus. Would there be any interest in such a thing?
Yup
I'd certainly be interested in playing it and embarrassing myself.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:00 pm
by ThisIsMyUsername
jasongg17 wrote:Just out of curiosity, I'm thinking of writing a Broadway packet, possibly for Festivus. Would there be any interest in such a thing?
Most certainly.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:31 pm
by jasongg17
I'll definitely get to work on it, then.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:14 am
by eldermaas
UlyssesInvictus wrote:
UlyssesInvictus wrote:I'll probably read 2-3 packets of GRAPHIC sometime Monday evening, around 9ish EST, on IRC (#quizbgraphic) (edit: let's say 9:30 to be specific)
...

I'll probably read the last 3 packets later this week, or next week.
Did this ever happen?

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:43 am
by UlyssesInvictus
eldermaas wrote:
UlyssesInvictus wrote:
UlyssesInvictus wrote:I'll probably read 2-3 packets of GRAPHIC sometime Monday evening, around 9ish EST, on IRC (#quizbgraphic) (edit: let's say 9:30 to be specific)
...

I'll probably read the last 3 packets later this week, or next week.
Did this ever happen?
School started, so no. I'm meaning to do it sometime next week, though, once my schedule gets completely sorted out.
I've also given up hope on finishing the bonuses this semester, so I'll leave this TBD and post the full set after I read the next three packets.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:56 pm
by Shashmaqam
eliza.grames wrote:I'll read my second Clickhole packet in the IRC at 8pm Eastern time on Sunday (8/21). If there are enough people that haven't heard the first one, I suppose I could do that too.
Will these Clickhole packets ever be posted? I would love to see them, though I'm sad someone beat me to it.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:32 pm
by eliza.grames
Shashmaqam wrote:
eliza.grames wrote:I'll read my second Clickhole packet in the IRC at 8pm Eastern time on Sunday (8/21). If there are enough people that haven't heard the first one, I suppose I could do that too.
Will these Clickhole packets ever be posted? I would love to see them, though I'm sad someone beat me to it.
Finally! 20 Amazing Tossups You Won’t Believe Were Written Based on Clickhole Articles. Wow.

Heartwarming: This Person Assembled Clickhole Articles Into a Packet. What Happened Will Not Surprise You.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:05 pm
by OctagonJoe
I wrote a half packet comprising 3 groups of 3 tossups that share a theme and 1 tossup that might elicit the statement "that's random." I'll read it on the IRC sometime when there are people to hear it.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:06 pm
by The Bold Ideas of Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
OctagonJoe wrote:I wrote a half packet comprising 3 groups of 3 tossups that share a theme and 1 tossup that might elicit the statement "that's random." I'll read it on the IRC sometime when there are people to hear it.
your overall specificity intrigues me

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:50 pm
by UlyssesInvictus
UlyssesInvictus wrote:
eldermaas wrote:
UlyssesInvictus wrote:
UlyssesInvictus wrote:I'll probably read 2-3 packets of GRAPHIC sometime Monday evening, around 9ish EST, on IRC (#quizbgraphic) (edit: let's say 9:30 to be specific)
...

I'll probably read the last 3 packets later this week, or next week.
Did this ever happen?
School started, so no. I'm meaning to do it sometime next week, though, once my schedule gets completely sorted out.
I've also given up hope on finishing the bonuses this semester, so I'll leave this TBD and post the full set after I read the next three packets.
Something came up today, so I'll read the remaining packets a week from today (9/21) at 10:00 PM EST.

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:55 pm
by Banned Tiny Toon Adventures Episode
Ophir informs me that he intends on reading his team's CO packet at "next thursday at 10:13 pm" (EST) make that Wednesday

the winner is whoever survives

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:54 pm
by UlyssesInvictus
UlyssesInvictus wrote:Something came up today, so I'll read the remaining packets a week from today (9/21) at 10:00 PM EST.
Note that this is still happening, and in 15 minutes. #quizbgraphic is the channel

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:11 am
by UlyssesInvictus
UlyssesInvictus wrote:
UlyssesInvictus wrote:Something came up today, so I'll read the remaining packets a week from today (9/21) at 10:00 PM EST.
Note that this is still happening, and in 15 minutes. #quizbgraphic is the channel
This happened! Final scores:

Finn: 215
James: 175
Saul: 105
Aakash: 75
Steven: -5
EE: 0

James won packet 4, Saul and Finn tied on packet 5, and Finn won packet 6.

The packets should be up soon. One day there will be bonuses...

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:18 pm
by mozzarella
Thinking about writing an anime-themed trash packet. Is there any interest or is that too niche for you guys?

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:26 pm
by jasongg17
mozzarella wrote:Thinking about writing an anime-themed trash packet. Is there any interest or is that too niche for you guys?
I'd only be able to answer things about a small set of shounen series, but I'd be interested nonetheless

Re: Clearinghouse for Random Packet Announcements

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:28 pm
by Red Panda Cub
I am writing a philosophical geography packet to be ready in a few weeks.