ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
What do the brackets look like for this tournament? We only got our own teams' brackets in our folder.
Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
ÜBER-COMPETITIVE DIVISION
Santo: Hamilton, Lisle A, Detroit Catholic Central B, Libertyville, Fenwick A, Auburn A
Banks: New Trier, Carbondale, Oak Park-River Forest, Latin, Barrington A, Stevenson A
Sandberg: Auburn B, Illinois Math & Science Academy, St. Ignatius College Prep A, Wheaton Warrenville South A, Loyola Academy B, Northmont
Williams: Buffalo Grove A, Culver, Detroit Catholic Central A, Wheaton North A, Stevenson B, Loyola Academy A
STANDARD DIVISION
Leah: Barrington B, Crete-Monee A, Wheaton Warrenville South B, Sterling A, Fenwick B, Keith Country Day A
Rachel: McHenry, Keith Country Day B, PORTA, Buffalo Grove B, Crete-Monee B, Maine South
Bilhah: Loyola Academy C, Byron, Springfield, Leyden, Auburn D, Fenton
Zilpah: Niles West, Lisle B, Wheaton North B, St. Ignatius College Prep B, Sterling B, Auburn C
Santo: Hamilton, Lisle A, Detroit Catholic Central B, Libertyville, Fenwick A, Auburn A
Banks: New Trier, Carbondale, Oak Park-River Forest, Latin, Barrington A, Stevenson A
Sandberg: Auburn B, Illinois Math & Science Academy, St. Ignatius College Prep A, Wheaton Warrenville South A, Loyola Academy B, Northmont
Williams: Buffalo Grove A, Culver, Detroit Catholic Central A, Wheaton North A, Stevenson B, Loyola Academy A
STANDARD DIVISION
Leah: Barrington B, Crete-Monee A, Wheaton Warrenville South B, Sterling A, Fenwick B, Keith Country Day A
Rachel: McHenry, Keith Country Day B, PORTA, Buffalo Grove B, Crete-Monee B, Maine South
Bilhah: Loyola Academy C, Byron, Springfield, Leyden, Auburn D, Fenton
Zilpah: Niles West, Lisle B, Wheaton North B, St. Ignatius College Prep B, Sterling B, Auburn C
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Live stats?
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
I have submitted an official request to the stats room.SoLegit12 wrote:Live stats?
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
In Santo: Auburn went 5-0. The other top-bracket team is Lisle or "Hamilton," I'm not sure.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Standard Division morning stats: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Lisle is the other team going to the top bracket. Libertyville and "Hamilton," which is Joe Nutter from Walnut Hills solo are the middle teams.cournfused wrote:In Santo: Auburn went 5-0. The other top-bracket team is Lisle or "Hamilton," I'm not sure.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Anything for "Uber Competitive" yet?TheDoctor wrote:Standard Division morning stats: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Don't make me come down there.styxman wrote:I have submitted an official request to the stats room.SoLegit12 wrote:Live stats?
Prelim stats are here: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings
I make no promises concerning live stats for the rest of the tournament. Anyone who has a problem with that, can have a meeting with my foot after I pull it out of the asses of the attendees.
Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Superplayoffs top: Stevenson A, Auburn A, IMSA, DCC A
Superplayoffs next group: St. Ignatius A, Loyola A, Carbondale, Lisle
Next: Northmont, Buffalo Grove A, New Trier, Culver
Next: Oak Park–River Forest, Libertyville, Auburn B, Hamilton
Next: Latin, DCC B, Wheaton Warrenville South A, Stevenson B
Next: Loyola B, Wheaton North A, Barrington A, Fenwick A
(This is all in the Über-Competitive Division.)
Superplayoffs next group: St. Ignatius A, Loyola A, Carbondale, Lisle
Next: Northmont, Buffalo Grove A, New Trier, Culver
Next: Oak Park–River Forest, Libertyville, Auburn B, Hamilton
Next: Latin, DCC B, Wheaton Warrenville South A, Stevenson B
Next: Loyola B, Wheaton North A, Barrington A, Fenwick A
(This is all in the Über-Competitive Division.)
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Stats for the first set of playoffs: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings
Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Stevenson A, Auburn A, and DCC A finished with one loss. Seeded in the aforementioned order based on PPG, one-game tiebreakers.
Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
PPG? What happened to PPB?dtaylor4 wrote:Stevenson A, Auburn A, and DCC A finished with one loss. Seeded in the aforementioned order based on PPG, one-game tiebreakers.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Auburn and DCC are currently in a play-in game to determine who plays Stevenson in the finals.
All three teams finished in a 6-1 circle of death at the end of the modified carryover round robin thingy.
All three teams finished in a 6-1 circle of death at the end of the modified carryover round robin thingy.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Standard Division: Keith Country Day A and Fenton playing it off. Standings after that:
3. Auburn C
4. PORTA
5. Lisle B
6. Loyola C
3. Auburn C
4. PORTA
5. Lisle B
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Auburn vs. Stevenson in the finals
Auburn is up 210-70 at the half with 65 points contested on a protest.
Auburn is up 210-70 at the half with 65 points contested on a protest.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
300-195 in favor of Auburn going into TU 18 with a 65 point swing for Stevenson still in protest.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Standard Division was settled with Keith over Fenton 185 to 45.
Afternoon: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings
Full: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings
Afternoon: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings
Full: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
300-265 in favor of Auburn going into the last TU with that 65 still in protest.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
I believe Auburn D defeated Crete-Monee B 20-10, not the other way around.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Auburn wins 300-295.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Did the protest get resolved?BGSO wrote:Auburn wins 300-295.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Thanks for a great tournament! Though my team didn't win as much as they hoped, they seemed to understand it was truly a stacked field in the top tier. If they didn't, the fact they opened against the defending state champs in Class AA made it perfectly clear. Considering we've had approximately zero players attend an ACE camp, results like these aren't anything to be embarrassed about. Perhaps with the addition of an ACE camp in Champaign, maybe some players will be motivated to give up 4 days of their summer to go learn the subjects where we are weak, especially lit and art.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Except for my sudden malaise, I thoroughly enjoyed the tournament. We had excellent moderators, and I always enjoy it when we play DCC. With potential representatives from other states, this should be and is one of the premiere tornaments in Illinois.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
It seems pretty obvious that it was denied, considering that Stevenson gained zero points and the match was declared official.AlphaQuizBowler wrote:Did the protest get resolved?BGSO wrote:Auburn wins 300-295.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Congratulations to Auburn A for a hard-fought final. The field was brutal, and any of the top dozen or so teams (at least!) could easily win a tournament most days of the week. (Well, most Saturdays of the year.)
I'll have more to say tomorrow. For now, here are stats for the Über-Competitive Division:
prelims
parallel brackets phase
superplayoffs*
overall*
*I don't have the scoresheets from the final or the play-in game; I'm waiting for Mike Sorice to email me them. For now, I entered the play-in game as a 1-0 victory for Auburn, since I don't even know its score, and I put in the final match score without the details.
I'll have more to say tomorrow. For now, here are stats for the Über-Competitive Division:
prelims
parallel brackets phase
superplayoffs*
overall*
*I don't have the scoresheets from the final or the play-in game; I'm waiting for Mike Sorice to email me them. For now, I entered the play-in game as a 1-0 victory for Auburn, since I don't even know its score, and I put in the final match score without the details.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Not to be all staaaaaaaaaats, but I assume there's errors in there, because while Stevenson is good, I doubt they had a ppb of 29.78.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
I think that has something to do with the finals not having the details entered.Fred wrote:Not to be all staaaaaaaaaats, but I assume there's errors in there, because while Stevenson is good, I doubt they had a ppb of 29.78.
Edit: Yeah, because in the superplayoffs-only stats, Auburn is at 32.22 and Stevenson at 34.70. I'm blaming the aforementioned.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
I'm sure their average had to have gone down from their round one average (v. Barrington A) of 29.2 PPB. Seriously. They missed a single bonus part on the 13 they controlled in that match.Fred wrote:Not to be all staaaaaaaaaats, but I assume there's errors in there, because while Stevenson is good, I doubt they had a ppb of 29.78.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
I was informed by an intermediate party speaking with Auburn D that they had lost by 10 points, and that the score was 20-10. I did not receive the scoresheet for this game; if anyone has it, or knows where I can procure accurate individual stats for this game, please let me know (strey . k . a @ gmail . com).Aaron Goldfein wrote:I believe Auburn D defeated Crete-Monee B 20-10, not the other way around.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Thanks to Maggie Walker for producing a very good set, to Jonah for running the tournament, to Kristin and Donald for keeping stats, and to the many people who staffed this tournament. Congrats to the many teams who showed up, many on their first day of Winter Break, and played well.
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Fred wrote:Not to be all staaaaaaaaaats, but I assume there's errors in there, because while Stevenson is good, I doubt they had a ppb of 29.78.
As a preview for Stevenson in the first 9 rounds of this tournament (so everything but the playoff packets) they put up 27.2 PPB.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
I moderated this match, but Jeff Geringer was keeping score. Auburn D definitely won 20-10, though.TheDoctor wrote:I was informed by an intermediate party speaking with Auburn D that they had lost by 10 points, and that the score was 20-10. I did not receive the scoresheet for this game; if anyone has it, or knows where I can procure accurate individual stats for this game, please let me know (strey . k . a @ gmail . com).Aaron Goldfein wrote:I believe Auburn D defeated Crete-Monee B 20-10, not the other way around.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
The final and the play-in game for the final are now entered in the stats for the Über-Competitive Division, and the Standard Division stats are posted. All bonus conversion issues should therefore be fixed.
Über-Competitive Division Stats: prelims — parallel brackets phase — superplayoffs — overall
Standard Division Stats: prelims — playoffs — overall
Über-Competitive Division Stats: prelims — parallel brackets phase — superplayoffs — overall
Standard Division Stats: prelims — playoffs — overall
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
According to my scoresheet, Crete-Monee B won 20-10. Auburn D didn't get any points on that protest.Aaron Goldfein wrote:I moderated this match, but Jeff Geringer was keeping score. Auburn D definitely won 20-10, though.TheDoctor wrote:I was informed by an intermediate party speaking with Auburn D that they had lost by 10 points, and that the score was 20-10. I did not receive the scoresheet for this game; if anyone has it, or knows where I can procure accurate individual stats for this game, please let me know (strey . k . a @ gmail . com).Aaron Goldfein wrote:I believe Auburn D defeated Crete-Monee B 20-10, not the other way around.
Thomas and Brandon both had a tossup for CMB, and Jake had one tossup for Auburn B.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Jeff and/or board staffers, please edit out the question content mention from the above post.
Edit: Thanks!
Edit: Thanks!
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Stats have been updated with what Kristin tells me is the correct outcome of that game. I haven't read the actual discussion of it.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Congratulations to Auburn, and thank you to everyone who made this an excellent tournament. I have only two complaints:
(1) The half-hour delay to clear up some stats snafu after lunch did not seem to affect the top bracket. Had that been cleared up sooner, at least the top bracket could have gotten started, considering they would be playing more rounds anyway.
(2) There were no umlauts on the trophies for the Ubercompetitive [sic] Division. What kind of amateurish crap is that?
(1) The half-hour delay to clear up some stats snafu after lunch did not seem to affect the top bracket. Had that been cleared up sooner, at least the top bracket could have gotten started, considering they would be playing more rounds anyway.
(2) There were no umlauts on the trophies for the Ubercompetitive [sic] Division. What kind of amateurish crap is that?
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
It affected only some games, so it's possible your schedule was correct, but there were several in each tier that were incorrect.Dominator wrote:(1) The half-hour delay to clear up some stats snafu after lunch did not seem to affect the top bracket. Had that been cleared up sooner, at least the top bracket could have gotten started, considering they would be playing more rounds anyway.
Sorry. I'm blaming Reinstein for that one.Dominator wrote:(2) There were no umlauts on the trophies for the Ubercompetitive [sic] Division. What kind of amateurish crap is that?
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
To be clear, the stats were not the issue. The issue was in the schedules that were printed.Dominator wrote:Congratulations to Auburn, and thank you to everyone who made this an excellent tournament. I have only two complaints:
(1) The half-hour delay to clear up some stats snafu after lunch did not seem to affect the top bracket. Had that been cleared up sooner, at least the top bracket could have gotten started, considering they would be playing more rounds anyway.
Also, having the staggered start for that division, when the other division had already started, creates serious issues with teams discussing specific questions too soon.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Yeah, I was actually really worried about that in the morning. Because of one reader, the bracket that I was in was apparently a round and a half behind the other brackets at one point, some of which were in the same hallway, and I had to be really careful not to get to talking to the other teams about questions lest they mention something I hadn't heard yet. Starting some afternoon rounds 15 minutes before others would have just caused the same problem. Also, even if your schedule had been right, who's to know whether or not the team you're supposed to be playing got the right schedule and can come start right away, or if you'll just be sitting there for 15 minutes waiting for them to know they're supposed to play you.dtaylor4 wrote:To be clear, the stats were not the issue. The issue was in the schedules that were printed.Dominator wrote:Congratulations to Auburn, and thank you to everyone who made this an excellent tournament. I have only two complaints:
(1) The half-hour delay to clear up some stats snafu after lunch did not seem to affect the top bracket. Had that been cleared up sooner, at least the top bracket could have gotten started, considering they would be playing more rounds anyway.
Also, having the staggered start for that division, when the other division had already started, creates serious issues with teams discussing specific questions too soon.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
First off, this tournament was not a series of expletives.
Second, props to Joe Nutter for taking the Megabus to fill out the top division for this tournament.
Third, for a tournament this size, electronic scoresheets should be a no-go. There were hiccups with the internet, on account of people sending 20+ big spreadsheets every round. Also, the use of electronic scoresheets makes it difficult to enter games people are clamoring for, when it is impossible to figure out who read them.
Also, what the hell was with not printing schedules of any kind? At the beginning, those of us in the control room had to tell two parents, we had no clue where their children were. This is unacceptable.
I'll probably add more when I can think straight, and move around.
Second, props to Joe Nutter for taking the Megabus to fill out the top division for this tournament.
Third, for a tournament this size, electronic scoresheets should be a no-go. There were hiccups with the internet, on account of people sending 20+ big spreadsheets every round. Also, the use of electronic scoresheets makes it difficult to enter games people are clamoring for, when it is impossible to figure out who read them.
Also, what the hell was with not printing schedules of any kind? At the beginning, those of us in the control room had to tell two parents, we had no clue where their children were. This is unacceptable.
I'll probably add more when I can think straight, and move around.
Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Had I realized this might be a problem, I would've set up a better way to submit them. As it was, I figured that Gmail (which almost all the readers, and both statskeepers, were using) could handle large files.dtaylor4 wrote:Third, for a tournament this size, electronic scoresheets should be a no-go. There were hiccups with the internet, on account of people sending 20+ big spreadsheets every round. Also, the use of electronic scoresheets makes it difficult to enter games people are clamoring for, when it is impossible to figure out who read them.
I emailed you the schedules.dtaylor4 wrote:Also, what the hell was with not printing schedules of any kind? At the beginning, those of us in the control room had to tell two parents, we had no clue where their children were. This is unacceptable.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
1) There were snafus with people getting/sending emails.jonah wrote:Had I realized this might be a problem, I would've set up a better way to submit them. As it was, I figured that Gmail (which almost all the readers, and both statskeepers, were using) could handle large files.
I emailed you the schedules.dtaylor4 wrote:Also, what the hell was with not printing schedules of any kind? At the beginning, those of us in the control room had to tell two parents, we had no clue where their children were. This is unacceptable.
2) We got them from Gerhardt about two hours after we were made to look incompetent.
Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
I just updated the stats with a corrected score for the round 7 match in which Latin defeated Wheaton Warrenville South A. The correct score is 330–145, not the previously indicated 290–145; I believe the error arose from a certain moderator's inability to read his own handwriting.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Any word on PACE certification?
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Conversion stats for every question are available here. Note that that thread is in the private discussion forum for the GSAC set, so you need to request approval to see it. To do that, go to your user control panel, choose "Usergroups", and choose "GSAC discussion"; hopefully you will be approved shortly. Feel free also to email me to request these documents.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
Rumor has it that we will find out soon. It's only been one month since the tournament took place.Aaron Goldfein wrote:Any word on PACE certification?
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
This tournament is platinum. A bunch of status decisions were made last week and will be announced when PACE gets around to it.
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Re: ADVANTAGE (12/18/2010) at New Trier (Winnetka, IL)
I'm currently waiting on team data from the certification committee. Your patience as we attempt to accurately add 28 tournaments is appreciated.Westwon wrote:This tournament is platinum. A bunch of status decisions were made last week and will be announced when PACE gets around to it.
edit: had to wait til after class to fix typo; sorry
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