LIFT X 10/16/2010

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LIFT X 10/16/2010

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LIFT(Long Island Fall Tournament) X will be held on October 16, 2010 at Kellenberg Memorial High School, Uniondale, NY.


Information concerning LIFT X:

- $60.00 First team, $50.00 each additional team
- Discounts: $10.00/buzzer system, $10.00/moderator, $10.00/100 mile travel (based on Google maps from town to Uniondale, NY): maximum total discount $60.00
- NAQT IS-98 (20/20 untimed)
-In the near future, there will be more information posted on the number of teams and the bracketing system.

- Location: Kellenberg Memorial HS in Uniondale, Long Island, NY, 30 miles E of NYC, right off of Exit M4 West from the Meadowbrook Parkway. Recommendation: Those coming from the south of NYC should NOT go through the city. Use the Outerbridge or Goethals to Staten Island, then the Verazzano-Narrows to LI.

Registration should be from 7:25 to 8:30 a.m., with the first round starting at 8:45 a.m. The Award ceremony should be at 6:00 p.m.
Register by posting here, or email to bronigel (at) kellenberg (dot) org.

EDIT:Registration and driving information added.
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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Nik,

Saint Joe's will be there with 2 teams, 1 buzzer and 1 moderator.

EDITED: I changed the number of buzzers from 2 to 1. Sorry!
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There's a strong possibility of Kings Park bringing one team. Nothing's certain yet though; its our homecoming but for the few of us that aren't some way involved in PSATs or football, we're just arranging a chaperon. Our coach will swing you an email in the next few days
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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Bergen County Academies will bring either 1 or 2 teams. For now, mark us down as two teams, and I'll get back to you in a bit. We should have two buzzers, but no moderators.
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Kellenberg is still looking for teams for this tournament.

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Since this tournament is less than 2 weeks away, is there a field update?
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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There will be a field update by this evening.

If anyone else is interested, please let me know ASAP. My email is in the original post.
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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I guess you've been busy, Brother. But, when you get a chance, could you provide a field update? Thanks.
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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Official Field (as of Thurs., 10/14)

Bergen (NJ): 2 tms
Great Neck South: 1
HHHW: 2
Horace Greeley: 2
Hunter: 1
Kings Park: 1
Locust Valley: 1
North Babylon: 1
North Shore: 1
OLMA: 1
Seton Hall (NJ): 1
St. Joseph (NJ): 2
Team Tribeca: 1
Trinity: 1
White Plains: 4

Total: 15 schools, 22 teams

PSATs hit us hard. A number of the teams above will not be fielding their full A teams. We will find a new date next year!

Edit: Big time. Changed general information into specific details. Updated field.
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Field posted above.
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KP's new administration just came down hard on us... As of now it looks like KP won't be able to attend, but I promise you that we're doing everything in our power to resolve that... Would you (Brother Nigel) be opposed to KP attending as an "unofficial" team?
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WSchneider wrote:KP's new administration just came down hard on us... As of now it looks like KP won't be able to attend,
Do you mind explaining why? This is really a shame. Why would they prevent you from attending a competition that's not that far away?
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Carangoides ciliarius wrote:
WSchneider wrote:KP's new administration just came down hard on us... As of now it looks like KP won't be able to attend,
Do you mind explaining why? This is really a shame. Why would they prevent you from attending a competition that's not that far away?
Well... Up to this point we've used school transportation for every event we've been going to, and our coach has been in attendance with us. In the past, the school's official policy has been that any parent may serve as a chaperon for any event, as well as any teacher, or guidance counselor, or administrator; basically as long as any adult was with us, they didn't care.

That said, this Saturday is our homecoming, and our coach has other obligations to fulfill, so the plan was (and this plan, notably, was approved by our new principle) that my mother would chaperon the team, and we would individually plan for transportation (we agreed on a carpool, but that didn't matter). This morning, our principle told our coach that he "wasn't comfortable" with the idea of students that "[he] would be liable for" taking part in an event off of school grounds without a teacher present with them. While I completely understand his concern, it's just frustrating because it defies not only an accepted policy, but also his own consent.

We're in the process of working on attending unofficially... Hopefully we can resolve this with our new principle before it impacts our plans for other tournaments this year.
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A somewhat reasonable (but unfortunate) explanation. I hope you can find a way to go anyway.
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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WSchneider wrote:
Carangoides ciliarius wrote:
WSchneider wrote:KP's new administration just came down hard on us... As of now it looks like KP won't be able to attend,
Do you mind explaining why? This is really a shame. Why would they prevent you from attending a competition that's not that far away?
Well... Up to this point we've used school transportation for every event we've been going to, and our coach has been in attendance with us. In the past, the school's official policy has been that any parent may serve as a chaperon for any event, as well as any teacher, or guidance counselor, or administrator; basically as long as any adult was with us, they didn't care.

That said, this Saturday is our homecoming, and our coach has other obligations to fulfill, so the plan was (and this plan, notably, was approved by our new principle) that my mother would chaperon the team, and we would individually plan for transportation (we agreed on a carpool, but that didn't matter). This morning, our principle told our coach that he "wasn't comfortable" with the idea of students that "[he] would be liable for" taking part in an event off of school grounds without a teacher present with them. While I completely understand his concern, it's just frustrating because it defies not only an accepted policy, but also his own consent.

We're in the process of working on attending unofficially... Hopefully we can resolve this with our new principle before it impacts our plans for other tournaments this year.
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dtaylor4 wrote: Suggestion: to cover your own ass, get something in writing.
Something referring to what? As in when he gives us permission in the future?
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WSchneider wrote:
dtaylor4 wrote: Suggestion: to cover your own ass, get something in writing.
Something referring to what? As in when he gives us permission in the future?
Is the policy you previously cited written anywhere?
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dtaylor4 wrote:
Is the policy you previously cited written anywhere?

In all the (online) paperwork I can dig up, there's no written policy either way about supervision of off-campus activities

EDIT: I shouldn't have used the word official before... "De facto" is more appropriate...
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So the resolution came to this: after a bit of an argument, it was agreed that the team would be allowed to attend with another teacher (not our coach, or anyone involved whatsoever in the quiz bowl team), and that we would be allowed to use the school's transportation... However in the future we must have our coach in attendence with us for all events; this is like a one-time deal....

Not quite the result I had hoped for but at least we get to go
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Where should we meet the morning of the tournament?
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Buses should pull up to the main entrance of the school (big stairs on the east side of the building), drop off the teams, and then pull around to the back of the school to park. The teams should proceed across the lobby and enter the cafeteria for bagels and juice. Please try to arrive by 8:15 AM. Call my cell phone if you are running late. (Cell phone # has been emailed to participating schools.)
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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Results as of Preliminary Round 5:

Bracket:
Commandments: 1. Bergen A (5-0, 359.0), 2. H Greeley A (4-0,331.2), 3. North Babylon (3-1,200.0)
Plagues: 1. St. Joseph A (4-0,430.0), 2. Hunter C (4-0,245.0), 3. HHHW A (3-2,192.0)
Lost Tribes: 1. Seton Hall (4-0,393.8), 2. White Plains A (3-1,373.8), 3. St. Joseph B (3-1,221.2)

21 teams showed, 3 brackets of 7. Rebracket to follow.
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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The following 6 teams moved into the top bracket.
Bergan A, H Greeley A, St. Joseph A, Hunter, Seton Hall A, and White Plains A

They finished 1st or 2nd in their respective prelim bracket. They are now in a championship bracket where they carried over the game they played against the other team from their bracket and will now play the other 4 teams.
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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Quick Final Results...

1st: Seton Hall A
2nd: White Plains A
3rd: St. Joseph A
4th: Bergen A
5th: H Greeley A
6th: Hunter C

We will post full results and stats as soon as we can.
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Combined Stats are here: http://results.scobo.net/LIFT

Final Overall Results:
1st: Seton Hall A (10-0, 367.0)
2nd: White Plains A (9-1, 351.5)
3rd: St. Joseph A (8-2, 337.0)
4th: Bergen A (7-3, 295.5)
5th: H Greeley A (6-4, 253.5)
6th: Hunter C (5-5, 193.5)

7th: N Babylon A (8-2, 213.0)
8th: HHHW A (7-3, 189.0)
9th: White Plains B (6-4, 158.0)
10th: St. Joseph B (5-5, 168.5)
11th: Kings Park A (4-6, 123.0)
12th: H Greeley B (3-7, 76.0)

13th: Great Neck S A (6-4, 236.0)
14th: White Plains D (4-6, 86.5) (Tie broken by Head to Head result)
15th: White Plains C (4-6, 96.0)
16th: HHHW B (3-7, 94.0)
17th: Bergen B (2-8, 59.5)
18th: Locust Valley A (1-9, 73.5) (Their 1st tourney ever!)

19th: Bergen D (0-6, 70.0)
20th: North Shore B (1-5, 93.3) - left after Prelims
21st: OLMA (0-4, 46.3) - left after 4th game, last two prelim games K-berg Frosh sat in.

Championship bracket was the top 2 from each of the three prelim brackets with the result of game between the two carried over. (Teams did not want to stay late so it was the best compromise.) The other playoff brackets were comprised of the 3rd and 4th teams, and then for the most part the 5th and 6th teams.

Individual awards were given at the end of the Prelims: 1st - Alex (St. Joe A) with a 101.67 ppg, 2nd - Stephanie (Bergen A) 63.33 ppg. And in our tradition, a cheap Halloween mask was awarded to Peter (North Babylon) for the highest number of neg's in the Prelims.

One additional note of clarification: Teams were asked to evaluate themselves in terms of whether they thought they were the A, B or C....team from their school. That's why there was no Hunter A or B or North Shore A.
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Thanks to Brother Nigel and the whole Kellenberg community for running another excellent tournament. All of the players on my two teams had a great time. And congratulations to all the championship playoff teams for their fine performances throughout the day, especially the excellent playoff performances of White Plains and our overall Champion, Seton Hall Prep.
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Re: LIFT X 10/16/2010

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We were informed that LIFT X has been awarded GOLD status certification. This means the top 6 teams qualify for the PACE National Championship.

By NAQT rules, the top 15% (rounded up) also qualify for the NAQT National Championship. That means the top 4 teams can attend their Championship.
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