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Bad Negs

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:10 am
by alch2
Since the last thread on the subject disappeared and I recently heard a few bad negs...

We were looking through old questions, and these are the serious answers they gave:

"...FTP, name this ship that exploded in 1898, and was one of the main causes of the Spanish-American War"

-Alamo (for USS Maine)

"Tom Snark, Galatea Dunkel,..."

-Homeless Guy to Galaxy (for On the Road)

older one: "This president, born in 1800..."

John Adams (for Fillmore)

"This President was a Civil War commander..."

Clark (for Garfield)

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:40 am
by Irreligion in Bangladesh
These aren't negs, but they should have been. From a middle school conference championship game.

Name the nationality that precedes each of the following words. Dressing --

"Ah, shoot...French?" (correct)

Name the fraction that is not equivalent to the other 3. 6/9, 13/39 --

"Dang it! Uh...13/39?" (correct)

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:48 pm
by zwtipp
in practice today:
Catergory was California.
i think the question was something like: name the city in which the cow palace (or something like that) is located. (Correct answer: San Francisco)
Answer given: Montana

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:48 pm
by Captain Sinico
Me: Like our Moon, its orbital and rotational periods are approximately equal...
Novice: *buzz* The Moon? Oh, shi...
Me: ...

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:37 pm
by mrblinux
Clare on my team answered "Hamlet" for the author of "Macbeth."

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:23 pm
by bigtrain
Today in practice:
Blah blah blah (something about unions, I wasn't really paying attention)....identify this Central American country with capital at Tegu:buzz:
Me: Nicaragua
This resulted in the captain smacking me with a book just before I could grab it to smack myself.

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:28 pm
by No Sollositing On Premise
I remember buzzing in with Lise Meitner after some gender-ambiguous nuclear scientist clues, but it turned out to be Bruce Banner (aka The Incredible Hulk).

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:02 am
by uberaschung
i remember getting double negs in practice quite a few times, one of was describing three counties that split away from an original state, me, thinking of Delaware in relation to Pennsylvania, buzzed in with Delaware, and then with Pennsylavania. the answer turned out to be Tennessee, which supposedly used to be part of North Carolina or sumthin.

needless to say, i was the object of mockery for some time after that

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:51 pm
by wd4gdz
Buzz: Pamela Anderson
Answer: Rally Monkey

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:35 pm
by AKKOLADE
Me: Man eating tiger
Answer: Mount St. Helena

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:39 pm
by Agent Smith
Webster-Ashburton treaty for Adams-Onis treaty.

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:53 pm
by quizbowlmike
Me: name this north dakota city named after a german statesman.
Her: Fredrick William (although, she was drunk, in her defense)
Answer: Bismark

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:00 pm
by bigtrain
It is funny that that is what really smart, quizbowl people say when they are drunk, they name German statesman that are not cities in North Dakota. :lol:

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:08 pm
by Captain Sinico
Agent Smith wrote:Webster-Ashburton treaty for Adams-Onis treaty.
That's... not a bad neg.
bigtrain wrote:It is funny that that is what... quizbowl people say when they are drunk...
Sometimes it is; sometime it isn't. Please don't encourage Frankel!
Ratatosk of ER wrote:(catagory L)
This order...
<buzz>
Lepidoptera???
(correct)
That's not a neg. We should start an "improbable but correct buzzes" thread.

EDIT: We do what we should! See the new Improbable but Correct Answers.

MaS

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:09 pm
by Chris Frankel
Sometimes it is; sometime it isn't. Please don't encourage Frankel!
Thanks for the motivation, Sorice. We just may be seeing a special post from myself after I get back from being hammered tonight.

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:16 pm
by Ratatosk of ER
Sorry--it was in responce to some simialar things posted here, though no I see it doesn't fit as well as I'd thought.

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:44 pm
by Theory Of The Leisure Flask
At NAQT SCT last year-

blah blah blah, something about cutting off her hair-

<I buzz>: Rosie O'Donnell?

-to get super powers, blah blah blah...

The answer was Wonder Woman.

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:28 am
by steven-lamp
bigtrain wrote:Today in practice:
Blah blah blah (something about unions, I wasn't really paying attention)....identify this Central American country with capital at Tegu:buzz:
Me: Nicaragua
This resulted in the captain smacking me with a book just before I could grab it to smack myself.
Believe it or not, I've actually negged a question exactly like that one (same country same answer). Stupid world capital questions...

Oh yea, just to add to Alex's original post, some more classic negs from me include:

Jesus Christ Superstar for Dr. Faustis

"This Biological phylum has a long notochord <buzz>"
me: Vertebrata!
me: *slams buzzer* <censored>
other team: VERTEBRATES!
me: ...damn
Of course, the answer was Chordata, but I think that was a round against an easier team so it wasn't exactly detrimental to our score.

Ok, more from Eddie (origin of most negs in alex's post)

This place, where the Parthenon <buzz>
Eddie: FORUM!

First discussed in blah blah blah, this BIBLICAL CITY saw the birth of <buzz>
Eddie: Pittsburgh

For a quick ten points, identify the country that owns Greenland.
Eddie, after waiting a few seconds: GREENLAND!

Identify the MOUNTAIN PASS that separates France from Spain.
Eddie: English Channel

Hmm, some other funny ones from practice.
Last year, sometimes when the answer was Whistler we'd buzz in and just whistle (ha ha ha stupid i know).
Question: (after my prac team negs early) Name the painter of American Gothic. <BUZZ>
Paul: *whistles*
Alex, Jay, and Steven: *knock on desk* *laugh hysterically*

Well that's all for now, more when I think of them or as Eddie is actually allowed to play at practice.

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:33 am
by plainsman422
Don't forget... I also made JQAdams -4 years old. I forgot what the question was, but it was funny.

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:05 am
by Chris Frankel
Damn, you edited out whatever drunk post I made :(

I really wanted to see it in the morning too.

oh

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:47 am
by rtmohr05
zwtipp always seems to think the country of France was named after the Gauls, since France and Gaul sound so similar :lol:

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:51 am
by Admiral
"The subject of the film was rising from death, and the cast of this film was baptise...."

<buzz>

"Passion of the Christ"

Answer: "Plan 9 From Outer Space"

The clues about the cross-dressing director, Swedish wrestler, and Bella Lugosi made it clearer that this in fact was not Mel Gibson's film.

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:51 pm
by mujason
Here's one of mine from last night's practice.

Reader: He came from a long line of rabbis but abandoned his faith...
<buzz>
Me: Krusty the Clown
Answer: Emile Durkheim

Oy vey.

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:12 pm
by BobGHHS
Hmmm... some of my best from my playing days, before I started coaching...

"For 10 points, identify the term for the surgical removal of the uterus..."
-Me - Tracheotomy... OH CRAP (slamming my head down on the desk)...



Last year at Ann B. Davis Trash Tournament...
"For 10 points, identify this children's show, nominated for numerous awards..."

- ME - "America's Most Wanted"


One of my brighter moments, talking to a teammate...

"Hey Mike, how the hell do you simplify the square root of 64?"
- to which Mike looked at me, turned beat red and had to walk away he was laughing so hard...



... blah blah, fought against the forces of Mark Antony and Cleopatra here...

-ME- El Alamein...

I have plenty more saved up on my other computer, we used to write down the dumbest answers and add them to a list that we printed and took with us to nationals every year...

And Richard, quit making fun of Zach... the two times we played you last year he had plenty more answers to give than you did... in fact, I think you buzzed in a total of like 2 times at Copley....

I'll look up some of the better ones and post them later.

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:17 pm
by zwtipp
The question gave pele's real name and they wanted pele.
Anaswers we gave were: "John Paul Jones" and "Oliver Wendell Holmes"

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:06 pm
by BobGHHS
One more I forgot, that won me the Moron Award at the ABD @ UM.

The question said John Wooden put this on the walls at UCLA to inspire players like Lew Alcindor, among others...

For whatever reason I buzzed in with "The Pillars of Islam"... something in my head said, Alcindor is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar... and Islam clicked for some reason, even though that is horribly wrong anyways....

the real answer: The Pyramid/Triangle of Success (or something to that effect)

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:15 pm
by uberaschung
I had gotten this yesterday:

Mod: ...this composer of Candide
Me: Buzzz... Voltaire
Zach (captain): you retard! somebody smack him

I think I was blanked out until I heard Candide...either way everyone laughed at me...hahahaha :lol:

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:19 pm
by Marcel Duchamp
Freshman year-

...name this german composer
BUZZ- mozart

but you cant beat our old captain:
give michael jordan's middle name
answer given: air

In any case, I really don't smack those two nearly as much as they claim. Well maybe I do, but they really deserve it.

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:01 am
by solonqb
I think a link to UPitt's compendium is in order here.

http://www.pitt.edu/~mld6/neg.htm


Plus some priceless ones, (not by me) from PACE over the last few years that I remember

Pikachu for Emil Durkheim
Bob Hope for Kim Jong Il
cervix for iris (this question was very trickily written, though)

UPitt's collection takes the cake though. Especially the one about Philippi.

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:12 am
by ballsofsteele
One of the best I've seen from PACE was pimp for silverback.

My sophomore year, one of my teammates buzzed in after mentions of being a Dancer before WWI and answered Gertrude Stein. The correct answer was Mata Hari . . .

Edit: Now I see it on the Pitt neg list credited to a Michigan tourney . . . I swore it was on the board at the end of the NSC 2 or 3 years ago.

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:27 pm
by Matt Weiner
solonqb wrote:cervix for iris (this question was very trickily written, though)
A few people said that, yet the explanation for why it wasn't that tricky also makes the neg much funnier.

Well before the point where two different rooms negged with "cervix," the question had mentioned its wide variety of COLORS across individuals.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:16 pm
by Shweater
BobGHHS wrote: "Hey Mike, how the hell do you simplify the square root of 64?"
heh that's as bad as me asking my team if they spoke Cuban in Cuba.
(keep in mind that this was after pulling two consecutive all-nighters)

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:33 am
by mrblinux
Baldness and Zits for Menopause
Fishing Line for Dog Tags
St. George for Michael (I said this one)
Volga for Volta
George Orwell for War of the Worlds
St. Augustine for Bogota
Onion juice for smog
Mona Lisa for Christina's World

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:25 am
by bigtrain
George Orwell for War of the Worlds
I believe my answer was Goerge Orwell's War of the Worlds. Anyways, this was in a Quizbowl Chatroom set up by Michael last night that lasted until near 2 in the morning in which we typed in our answers. I'd like to think that my tiredness and the lack of time to think about our answers due to the extra time it takes to type them, I would have said "Orson Well's reading of War of the Worlds."

I really love answering questions because of the knowledge I gained from those little passages they have during the state's standardized tests for language skills. I knew the Maryland State Assessment was good for something other than verifying literacy.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:34 pm
by Captain Sinico
From the UIUC Earlybird Tournament yesterday: "'The 'Cross of Gold' Speech' by William Cullen Bryant... er... no... Jennin..."
The circumstances of this neg make it worse, since it was taken after a good buzz on a "'Cross of Gold' speech" tossup which was, as it happened, the final question of a very close (i.e. very probably decided by this tossup) semifinal match. It was a shame to see a match decided like that... but I guess these things happen.

MaS

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:13 pm
by uberaschung
I believe my answer was Goerge Orwell's War of the Worlds. Anyways, this was in a Quizbowl Chatroom set up by Michael last night that lasted until near 2 in the morning in which we typed in our answers. I'd like to think that my tiredness and the lack of time to think about our answers due to the extra time it takes to type them, I would have said "Orson Well's reading of War of the Worlds."
No. You gave that answer at like 10:30, don't try to make excuses. Besides, I think I got more negs than you ;-)

The fishing line and the Mona Lisa were mine.
However, the fishing line I protest because I buzzed in at "monel metal" which is in real life a fishing line material. I buzzed in on that because i thought it would be extremely funny to possibly get a question right after like three words...lol And, I was the one to get the right answer: dog tags, afterwards. Well, anyways, some answers were pretty funny :lol:

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:19 pm
by uberaschung
Oh yea....
I really love answering questions because of the knowledge I gained from those little passages they have during the state's standardized tests for language skills. I knew the Maryland State Assessment was good for something other than verifying literacy.
Im sure Mr Finkbinder would be proud of you. ;-)

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:32 pm
by Shweater
*PT Barnum's greatest show on earth for Mammoth Cave National Park
*Vespasian for Thoreau

:oops:

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:32 pm
by DumbJaques
The onion juice for smog is only really funny because, although it was a buzz right after "irritates the eyes," the question had already stated that it contained formaldehyde, acrolein, and peroxy-acetyl nitrate.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:48 pm
by No Sollositing On Premise
Last week during practice, there was a clue that opened up how this person was listed as the fourth most annoying person in the country according to some poll, and I sort of misfired and guessed the pets.com dog, but it turned out to be Miss Cleo. Whoops.

Oh, and it didn't help that the reader was laughing uncontrollably throughout the entire question.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:37 am
by Admiral
ImmaculateDeception wrote:From the UIUC Earlybird Tournament yesterday: "'The 'Cross of Gold' Speech' by William Cullen Bryant... er... no... Jennin..."
The circumstances of this neg make it worse, since it was taken after a good buzz on a "'Cross of Gold' speech" tossup which was, as it happened, the final question of a very close (i.e. very probably decided by this tossup) semifinal match. It was a shame to see a match decided like that... but I guess these things happen.

MaS
Yeah, but if this player had decided to do what any well trained player should do...just give the last name....rather than trying to show off and fit every little detail into the answer, then the team might have won.

It's nice of you to show some pity, I.D....but in this case...I dunno.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:23 am
by Captain Sinico
Admiral wrote:
ImmaculateDeception wrote:From the UIUC Earlybird Tournament yesterday: "'The 'Cross of Gold' Speech' by William Cullen Bryant... er... no... Jennin..."
The circumstances of this neg make it worse, since it was taken after a good buzz on a "'Cross of Gold' speech" tossup which was, as it happened, the final question of a very close (i.e. very probably decided by this tossup) semifinal match. It was a shame to see a match decided like that... but I guess these things happen.

MaS
Yeah, but if this player had decided to do what any well trained player should do...just give the last name....rather than trying to show off and fit every little detail into the answer, then the team might have won.

It's nice of you to show some pity, I.D....but in this case...I dunno.
Oh, certainly; I'm not saying it wasn't 100% the player's fault for answering like that, though the answer was "'Cross of Gold' speech," so there wasn't any last name to be given, as such. I don't know whether they were trying to show off, or weren't absolutely sure what the question was on and wanted to blitz, or what. It was just a shame to see a very well-played match end like that for any reason, that's all. I was moderating this match, and I gave out the neg without hesitation; pity for my fellow creatures isn't one of my virtues, I'm afraid, when it conflicts with justice.

MaS

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:55 am
by Admiral
It's nice of you to show some pity, I.D....but in this case...I dunno.[/quote]
Oh, certainly; I'm not saying it wasn't 100% the player's fault for answering like that, though the answer was "'Cross of Gold' speech," so there wasn't any last name to be given, as such. I don't know whether they were trying to show off, or weren't absolutely sure what the question was on and wanted to blitz, or what. It was just a shame to see a very well-played match end like that for any reason, that's all. I was moderating this match, and I gave out the neg without hesitation; pity for my fellow creatures isn't one of my virtues, I'm afraid, when it conflicts with justice.

MaS[/quote]


I used to always tell my players, on an early buzz, give the creator/creation...I think it's the mark of a good player to know where the question is going, but not yet know exactly if it is the person or the speech. Good for you to nail him/her so fast......."Truth, pity, and the American Way" went out in the 1960s.

If I were on this person's team though, I would have made him/her run along the bus all the way home.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:26 pm
by jewtemplar
He'd have given the wrong last name even if he dropped the cullen

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:09 pm
by wwellington
In practice today, someone gave "telekinesis" for "adrenal gland."

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:01 pm
by TeeK
Some of our fun ones:
Shakakhan for Shaka Zulu
Mammogram for Amnioscentisis

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:37 pm
by No Sollositing On Premise
A few moments ago

"led by a british-educated opthamologist"
*Buzzes on a wild notion
Me: The Human Genome

turns out to be Syria

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:40 pm
by mrblinux
And later that night..

Rape of the Lock and Murder on the Orient Express for Kidnapped
Ikea for Lego
Butterfingers and Oreo Defense for twinky defense
Arnold Shwartzenneger for TS Garp

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:24 pm
by zwtipp
Question: "What is the only mammal that can fly?"

Peregrine Falcon for Bat

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:15 pm
by DumbJaques
At practice today:
Cincinatti for Crispus Attucks
Empire State Building for Dag Hammerskjold