2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by armitage » Wed May 30, 2012 9:36 pm

New York is:

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Post by Edward Powers » Wed May 30, 2012 10:00 pm

Team New Jersey is:

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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by AKKOLADE » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:39 am

Team Minnesota has registered for the NASAT, putting the field at 13 teams.

We are still accepting registrations, though the earlier they're received, the better.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by AKKOLADE » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:38 pm

We're going to keep registration through June 13, 2012. Be sure to get them in as soon as you can if you're interested!

(Edited to enter exact date!)
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by AKKOLADE » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:52 pm

something ambiguous wrote:Team Michigan will most likely be
Collin Parks (DCC)
Paul Hamilton (DCC)
Brandon Roach (DCC)
Mark Karabajakian (DCC0
Team Michigan should register if they are actually coming!
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Kilroy Was Here » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:38 pm

Fred wrote:
something ambiguous wrote:Team Michigan will most likely be
Collin Parks (DCC)
Paul Hamilton (DCC)
Brandon Roach (DCC)
Mark Karabajakian (DCC0
Team Michigan should register if they are actually coming!
Financial troubles are preventing our attendance, so alas, we cannot. We hope to come next year.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:04 pm

Sorry to hear that, Collin. I do hope you can come next year.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Euler's Constant » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:37 pm

Team Indiana:

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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by AKKOLADE » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:39 pm

Here's an information email I just sent out.
Hello everyone,

Thank you very much for attending the 2012 HSAPQ NASAT! We are very happy to be hosting your teams this year and are glad that you could make the trip. Apologies for the slight delay in sending this out.

This email is intended to provide you the necessary information for this coming weekend’s tournament. If you should need additional information, let me know and I will respond as soon as I can.

First of all, here is a map of Dreese Labs’ location on The Ohio State University’s campus: http://www.osu.edu/map/building.php?building=279 . The Central Classrooms Building is found at http://www.osu.edu/map/building.php?building=072 .

On Saturday, our opening meeting will be held in Dreese Labs in room 0113 at 8 a.m. Registration will occur outside of that room from 7:30 to 8 a.m. It is important that your team arrive on time; if your team does not arrive by the start of the first round, play will continue without them.

Matches will take place in the Central Classrooms Building’s second floor - we will announce the rooms on the day of the tournament. Matches will start no later than 9 a.m. on Saturday and continue until 5:30 p.m. Lunch will take place after round 5 on this day.

Matches will start again at 8:30 a.m. on Sunday. No opening meeting will be held, so just report to the appropriate game room in the Central Classrooms Building at that time.

We are currently planning on having a full round robin between all 13 teams. After this, teams will be split into brackets of 4, 3, 3, and 3 teams to determine final placement. If there is a less than 2 game difference between the top two teams, a best of three games final will be held, with an advantage as necessary. Of course, if the number of teams changes between now and the tournament, the schedule will be affected as well.

We will hold the award ceremony and the finals in Dreese Labs’ room 0113 on Sunday. We encourage everyone to attend this ceremony. We expect matches to be over no later than 12:30 p.m. on Sunday

This tournament will be following the official ACF Rules. They can be found at http://acf-quizbowl.com/documents/official-acf-rules/

If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to contact me via email. I will also supply my phone number in an email sent out on Thursday.

Thanks again for attending the 2012 NASAT!

Regards,

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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Cheynem » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:57 pm

What do you suggest for on-campus parking?
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Rufous-capped Thornbill » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:31 pm

The Tuttle Park Place garage is closest to where the tournament will be, I believe.

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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:54 am

I think I've sent this to all the staffers, but just in case I missed anyone (and sorry if I did!) - staffers need to be at Dreese Labs room 0113 between 7:30 and 8 a.m. for registration.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by mtimmons » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:25 am

Team Minnesota is

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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Windmill Tump » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:48 pm

Will there be some sort of a liveblog for this?
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Post by Steeve Ho You Fat » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:07 pm

Word on the street is that all games will be livecasted like last year.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Remember-the-Alamo-Remember-Goliad » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:36 am

Any blogging or live streaming going on today for NASAT?
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Post by Matt Weiner » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:43 am

Remember-the-Alamo-Remember-Goliad wrote:Any blogging or live streaming going on today for NASAT?
We're getting live streams on ustream.tv set up during round 1 and they should start broadcasting during round 2. I'll have the links here.

(Round 1 is underway).
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by AKKOLADE » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:00 pm

We are through round 8, which were completed about 20 minutes ago. Lunch is now being had, with five more rounds planned for today. Matches will start again at 1:50.

Currently, California is 7-0, NY is 6-1, Illinois is 5-2, and three teams - Georgia, Missouri, and North Carolina - are 4-3.
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Post by Matt Weiner » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:49 pm

Post-lunch games are now starting.
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Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:10 pm

The CA/NC and CA/VA games are both listed as Round 9 in the stats.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by AKKOLADE » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:13 pm

Fixed.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Matt Weiner » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:23 pm

1-loss New York plays 1-loss California in a few minutes, listen live here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nasat211
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Post by Northern Central Railway » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:28 pm

What's the tiebreaking procedure for determining what bracket teams get placed into for tomorrow?
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Post by Matt Weiner » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:29 pm

Northern Central Railway wrote:What's the tiebreaking procedure for determining what bracket teams get placed into for tomorrow?
We're playing off ties affecting bracket immediately after the end of Round 13.
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Post by Deviant Insider » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:37 pm

What is the format for tomorrow, and do records carry over?
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Post by Steeve Ho You Fat » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:42 pm

New Jersey v. North Carolina Tiebreaker in the channel for room 202 from the other thread.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:09 pm

Records carry over tomorrow.

Georgia won the tiebreaker for top bracket, and North Carolina won the second bracket playoff.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by David Riley » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:27 pm

So, the top bracket represents the East Coast, West Coast, Midwest, and South....let's hear it for these United States! :smile:
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Boeing X-20, Please! » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:52 pm

Fred wrote:Records carry over tomorrow.
This means completely, not just intra-bracket, correct? i.e. California is 11-1, New York is 10-2, we're 9-3, and Georgia is 8-4 as opposed to California being 2-1, New York being 1-2, is being 1-2, and Georgia being 2-1?
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:02 pm

That is correct, it is a team's overall record that carries over.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:32 am

Stats, with teams broken into the appropriate brackets, will be posted here.
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Post by Deviant Insider » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:50 am

Are the tiebreaker matches supposed to count in the standings?
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:54 am

No, I just thought I had the setting put into SQBS but didn't.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:59 am

In the first round of the playoffs in the top bracket, Illinois defeated New York, 305-290, and California defeated Georgia, 335-315.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:04 am

Stats address has changed.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:34 am

Round 15 is complete. If New York wins this last round, they force a disadvantaged final with California. If California wins, they win.
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You can listen to the championship match here.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:10 am

Congratulations to Team California for winning the 2012 HSAPQ NASAT! They cleared the field by 3 games to clinch the title, making a final unnecessary.

Team New York and Team Illinois are currently tied for 2nd; that tie will be played off. Team Georgia is 4th.

Stats should be fully updated for all non-tiebreaker matches.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:50 am

Illinois wins the tiebreaker.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:15 pm

Hello everyone,

I just stopped outside of Zanesville, Ohio to get food, post stats, and determine why my car smelled like old sweat socks!

You can see all of the statistics right here.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Tanay » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:50 pm

I think it's interesting to note the relative parity of quizbowl across the country now, as opposed to before. This has been brought up a couple of times this year, but it's shown most clearly by these results. None of the states represented in the top two brackets of this tournament were represented by a single school that had won a high school national title before this year.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:05 pm

What is the future of NASAT? Are the organizers of this tournament content with just 13 states being represented? What can be done to increase participation?
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by David Riley » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:48 pm

I second Andrew, but I also wonder--where were states (with active circuits) such as Michigan, Florida, South Carolina, Maryland, etc. Is it economics?
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Remember-the-Alamo-Remember-Goliad » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:03 pm

After seeing the resutls of the NAQT nationals in Atlanta and PACE Nationals in St. Louis, I would have to say that I found these results fairly predictable.

To my mind, one of the problems is the definition of what makes an "All-Star" player, as defined by NASAT. From a quick look at the players across seveal states, you have everything from graduated seniors going to Harvard and Stanford, all the way down to middle school students. That seems like an awfully big range to me if it's going to fit into the 'All-Star" category. This is conjoined with the issue of what is one state's all-star may well not be another state's all-star. Who decides? 50 different state coordinators? Hmmmmm.

Another issue is finances. Coming at the very end of a QB season, choices have to be made. With 13 teams, I suspect that finances were an issue.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Tanay » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:13 pm

Remember-the-Alamo-Remember-Goliad wrote:After seeing the resutls of the NAQT nationals in Atlanta and PACE Nationals in St. Louis, I would have to say that I found these results fairly predictable.

To my mind, one of the problems is the definition of what makes an "All-Star" player, as defined by NASAT. From a quick look at the players across seveal states, you have everything from graduated seniors going to Harvard and Stanford, all the way down to middle school students. That seems like an awfully big range to me if it's going to fit into the 'All-Star" category. This is conjoined with the issue of what is one state's all-star may well not be another state's all-star. Who decides? 50 different state coordinators? Hmmmmm.
This seems like a non-issue. Each state's top pyramidal quizbowl players tend to be in the loop about things such as NASAT. States will (ideally) send the top four players that are willing to go, whether those people are Ivy-bound seniors or promising underclassmen. It's certainly true that "one state's all-star may well not be another state's all-star", but as long as states are using reasonable methods to select participants, this tournament will make sense as it stands. The range of participation in this tournament is no different from that of any other national tournament, and as more schools become aware of NASAT, any disparity will naturally decrease. The idea of state coordinators is certainly a good one, but it's worth pointing out that the impromptu NASAT tryouts that some colleges have held accomplish this task well.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Cheynem » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:48 pm

I was very impressed with all of the teams I saw at NASAT. I hope next year's field will be larger and I think it will be, although the age old problems of finances and scheduling seem to be consistent problems. There were a couple first time states this year, so hopefully that sets up a foundation. I think a little bit of continuity will help boost attendance.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:02 pm

I think that the varying definitions of what an All-Star is from state to state can produce some interesting results though, and is part of the fun of the tournament. Take the top 4 teams here, for instance - California and New York are teams that are based around players who won national titles this year, with some help from another local, Georgia is a team where a very strong one man team plus 4 other players who are all very good in their own right on other local teams banded together to try and fill in the gaps, and Illinois is made up of four players who tried out and proved themselves to all be roughly equally excellent and able to perform highly at different categories to create a well rounded team. In 2010, a team entirely composed of State College players won, and in 2011 a true all-star team of excellent players from a few different teams in Texas won. These are all different strategies that can work in their own different way, and the excellent parity in this field from top to bottom showed that. In terms of teams that showed up to Panasonic, that was much the same when it ran - there were some true all-stars, some single school teams, some very slightly mixed teams, and who knows what else who would show up to compete, so this is always how it's been done. To me, that's part of the excitement of this kind of tournament - which strategy will pay off in any given year?
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Kilroy Was Here » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:25 pm

David Riley wrote:I second Andrew, but I also wonder--where were states (with active circuits) such as Michigan, Florida, South Carolina, Maryland, etc. Is it economics?
In the case of Michigan, we fully planned on coming, but my team mates didn't have the money to pay for it. If facebook is correct, the kids from Maryland just didn't want to.
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Re: 2012 NASAT: June 16-17 at Ohio State

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:38 pm

Money is of course the biggest issue. I for one don't know how kids/teams have money to attend three nationals in a span of four weeks, when going to one pretty much breaks our bank. Not that a team from Delaware would have expected to play well at all here, though. But i'm not ruling it out in the future entirely, i just don't really see how it's possible.
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