3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

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3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Great Bustard » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:13 am

Hi Everyone,
I'm pleased to announce that Ridgewood High School will be hosting the Ridgewood Summer Open on July 6-8 at (update 6/26) Benjamin Franklin Middle School in Ridgewood, NJ. These tournaments are open to everyone from middle school to those long since graduated from college. BF Middle School has generously given us the run of the place from Friday afternoon through Sunday afternoon to host copious amounts of quizbowl. Here's a current tentative plan, subject to change pending interest:

Friday afternoon/evening (doors open at 4:00pm, opening meeting at 4:30, tournament begins at 4:45) -
Open packet submission tournament (i.e. make your own teams - no need to limit yourself to who was/is on your high school or college team). Please power mark the set, and write to an HSNCT level of difficulty. Keep tossups to 525 characters or less, please, including spaces. Distribution is:
4/4 Lit (1 US, 1 European, 1 non Western, 1 your choice)
4/4 Science (1 Bio, 1 Chem, 1 Physics, 1 something else)
4/4 History (1 US, 1 Modern or High Medieval European [1000<], 1 non Western, 1 ancient defined as until 1000 CE anywhere)
1/1 Geography
1/1 Current Events
1/1 Other Social Science (psych, anthro, soc, etc.)
2/2 Religion, Myth, Philosophy
1/1 Art (including performing arts)
1/1 Music
1/1 Trash
1/1 Your Choice of 1 Lit, Science, or History

Saturday (doors open 9am, opening meeting 9:15, start time 9:40) - edited for clarity @ 2:55pm on 6/14
Mirror of ATTACK (i.e. the set Adam Silverman wrote) - teams solely by high school affiliation, including for those long and not so long since graduated (with the exception of current HS coaches who can play with their team members!). There will be some sort of divisional classification so as not to frighten the children. Note: there will be no other set on offer, except for various side events, but the issue there is securing space. We'll play all side events by ear.

Sunday (doors open 9am, opening meeting 9:15, start time 9:40) - edited for clarity @ 2:55pm on 6/14
Ridgewood Summer Set - this is being written as we speak. I will edit everything non-science. If anyone would like to help with science editing, please let me know. This set will be power marked and be of moderate high school difficulty. Teams will be done by high school and/or college affiliation; graduating seniors can play with either their high school or college. Those who are beyond graduating senior in age, though, have to play with their college affiliation (either undergrad or grad). The college division can also have teams that consist of alumni, however, these would be classified under a different set of teams from all undergrad. Provided there is enough interest to run a college division here, I will edit the version of the set that division uses to be somewhat more difficult.
Rough Distribution for this (will have exact by June 25, but this is an RMP/Fine Arts heavy set, given the tastes of Ridgewood QB)
4/4 Lit
4/4 History
4/4 Science
3/3 Fine Arts
1/1 Social Science
2.5/2.5 RMP
1.5/1.5 Geo,Trash,Current Events

Costs & Other Stuff:
For a team on Friday (we need 6 packets minimum to make this work), the cost would be $10 per person on a team if you submit a packet by June 25. $15 per person if you submit a packet by July 1. $20 per person if you don't submit a packet, or submit one after July 1.
For the Saturday ATTACK mirror, cost is $80 per team.
For the Sunday Ridgewood Summer Set, cost is $70 per team.
Any solo team pays 50% of the cost for either Saturday or Sunday (or both if you play both); there is no discount for teams of two.
-$10 per reader, per tournament (we reserve the right to limit these based on need)
Teams are guaranteed six rounds on Friday, and ten on Saturday and Sunday.
There might be side events on Saturday evening or Friday afternoon before things kick off. If you have an idea for one, let me know.
We will have pizza, soda, etc. available for purchase.
There are no buzzer system discounts, as we will have about 40 systems on hand by then.
Players who need accommodation can get accommodation for $15 a night with kids on Ridgewood's team. Otherwise, there are probably lodging choices somewhat farther away (~10-15 minutes drive) for roughly $25 per person per night, tax included.
Each tournament is capped at 80 teams.

Read on Friday: Hunter (3 readers), Kara Vo, David Madden
Read on Saturday: Andrew Ibendahl, (Ridgewooders: Thomas, Zoe, Abdullah, Justin, David Madden (if absolutely needed)) Susan Madden,
Read on Sunday: Ridgewood HS team

Field Update (Friday)

1. Robert Pond, Mike, Naib, and Ariel - submitted before June 25
2. Sam Donow et al from Irvington - submitted before June 25
3. Sam, David, Marisol, and James - submitted before June 25
4. Roey & Ranney - submitted by July 1
5. Matt Messana, Collin Parks, Connor Teevens, Robert Cernak - submitted by July 1
6. Great Neck South - submitted by July 1
7. Ryan from Ardsley & Graham from Hanover - submitted by July 1
8. Esther from Ridgewood, Alexandra and Zach G from Port Jefferson, and Gabe B. from Hanover - packet on July 5
9. Will Schneider et al - packet likely on July 6
10. Richard and York from Hunter - packet on July 5
11. Daniel Brezina - no packet

Field Update (Saturday)
Expert Division - defined as having someone beyond graduating senior status
Ardsley
Bergen Academies
DCC
Great Neck South
Hunter A
Hunter B
Irvington
Kate Smith DAR
Kellenberg
Richard Montgomery
Walt Whitman
Ward Melville
*** East Brunswick

Standard Division
Bergen Academies
Great Neck South
Hanover
High Tech
Oakland Mills
Ridgewood
St. Joseph
Valley Stream South A
Valley Stream South B

Field Update (Sunday)
High School Teams

Ardsley
Great Neck South
Hanover
High Tech
Hunter
Irvington
Port Jefferson
St. Joseph

College Teams
George Washington (Raynell Cooper)
Case Western (Matt Hayes)
Stony Brook
NYU
Penn (James Lasker, David Xu, Sam, a fourth)
Washington U. (Jon Pinyan)
Montgomery College (Dan Brezina)
*** Dan Kushner - affiliation TBD
*** Brown
*** Auburn
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Great Bustard » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:39 am

Also, on matters of transportation - people can easily take the train to this, as Ridgewood has a very busy station in the middle of town. NYC is less than 1 hour away, as is Newark Airport. For both Newark Airport and NYC, you need to take NJ transit (NOT Amtrak) to Secaucus, and then switch to almost (but not every, so be careful) westbound train (the direction is actually north, but NJ transit calls it westbound) on either the Bergen County or Main Lines then get off at Ridgewood. We can pick you up at the station.
If you're going to fly in, use Newark Airport if at all possible.
Finally, just in general, sorry about the short notice here - it's taken a while for the school to give us the dates for this. Hopefully many teams can still make it.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Kilroy Was Here » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:04 pm

As far as I know, For Friday I'll be playing with David Xu from Hunter, so I guess you can throw me with the rest of his team.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:17 pm

I might be able to interest my kids in this, or at least maybe 2 or 3 of them, for either Saturday or Sunday.

Odd question for you: may i play on a team with them? I am an alumnus of CR, if that counts for anything.

Or, if you need moderators, you definitely know that i would be happy to do that.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Lightly Seared on the Reality Grill » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:30 pm

I'm certainly interested. I have a feeling that I would be the only player on a potential Kings Park team for the ATTACK mirror, but I'll have to wait and see.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Great Bustard » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:58 pm

Down and out in Quintana Roo wrote: Odd question for you: may i play on a team with them? I am an alumnus of CR, if that counts for anything.
Edit: 6/30
The answer for this specific person is now obviously no. Other alumni of high schools may play with current students in the Expert division on Saturday.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by ryanrosenberg » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:32 pm

So yeah, Ardsley will be here in some form, probably with two teams for Saturday and one for Sunday, and I'll read/staff Sunday. I'm looking for teammates for Friday night.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by SunWukong » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:44 pm

All this sounds excellent, but I might be busy (that's 4th of July weekend so I might be in London). I attended the Maggie Walker mirror of the superb ATTACK set, so I'd be interested in there being an alternate set for Saturday. Put me down as being interested pending confirmation on the date. I doubt I'll get team mates from my high school team (but you never know) but hopefully can play this as a high school team (just graduated seniors) from Brown 2016 (Adam Horowitz is close at least) and get a jump start on playing together as a team.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:56 pm

nationalhistorybeeandbowl wrote:
Down and out in Quintana Roo wrote: Odd question for you: may i play on a team with them? I am an alumnus of CR, if that counts for anything.
Yes! One of the potential appeals of this tournament on Saturday is to have coaches play with current students from the schools they attended, or in the case of coaches who coach at the school they went to, their current players. For Sunday, the idea is that alumni need to play with their college affiliation. So, in other words, you could play with CR on Saturday, but on Sunday, you'd have to play with U Delaware alums/students. And Friday is entirely open, so play with whomever you like then.
That's exciting. I think then we'll be there on Saturday but I need to talk to more kids to make sure I have three I can take.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by deserto » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:10 pm

I hereby express interest in all 3 events. A high school teammate of mine may come with me, too. Since I'll be graduating from high school this year, I take it I may play with him in all three events; is this correct?
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Post by Great Bustard » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:11 pm

deserto wrote:I hereby express interest in all 3 events. A high school teammate of mine may come with me, too. Since I'll be graduating from high school this year, I take it I may play with him in all three events; is this correct?
Yes.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by WSchneider » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:13 pm

Separately from Robert Pond, I'll express Kings Park interest for Sunday's event. As of now I'll be alone but I will attempt to get a few people for this

EDIT: I misread the rules about affiliations. Could a Mish-moshey team of KP alumni/students compete under the most appropriate division given where I would be placed?
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by wilsonmathteacher » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:16 pm

I am actually considering coming to this as it is next to my original home town of Glen Rock....

But I do have a question. Since one of the goals is to allow coached to play with their players (past or present), would it be possible to for us to affiliate with the school we work at? So for example, I am the coach of Wilson SHS in Washington DC, but didn't go there, can I affilate with them to play with my players and/or former players from Wilson or am I bound to good old Glen Rock HS?
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by BroNi » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:23 pm

Kellenberg will try to bring one or two standard division teams for Saturday.

I can moderate on Saturday.

Edit: Not looking good for this. I can still moderate but Kellenberg may not have a high school team.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Kilroy Was Here » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:37 pm

For Friday and Saturday you can "express interest" in a team consisting of Myself, Connor Teevens, and other DCC people.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Black-throated Antshrike » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:28 pm

nationalhistorybeeandbowl wrote: *** U Delaware
lol what? Are we automatically entered or something?
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Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:39 am

Just to make it clear, CR can only come Saturday. So if we go, that's the only day we'd do it. It sounds like we will, but i'll confirm as soon as i can.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Angry Babies in Love » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:45 am

Expressing interest for a Richard Montgomery team on Saturday and a George Washington team on Sunday.
EDIT: It case it wasn't clear, RM is interested to play as an "expert" team.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Banana Stand » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:13 pm

I'm definitely interested in attending one or more of these events and I will see if I can generate interest among my teammates.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by jonpin » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:28 pm

There is a strong likelihood for a Bergen Academies team on Saturday. There is a decent likelihood for a Bergen Academies team on Sunday, but most likely not a WUSTL team.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Kilroy Was Here » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:12 pm

Is there an amtrak station that I could take to get into or near Ridgewood, or at least a place where I can get on the NJ transit?
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Nine-Tenths Ideas » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:47 pm

"Hill Valley High School" expresses interest, but transport is an issue.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Iluvatar343 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:31 pm

High Tech is interested in attending.

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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by jonpin » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:16 pm

something ambiguous wrote:Is there an amtrak station that I could take to get into or near Ridgewood, or at least a place where I can get on the NJ transit?
As Dave posted above, if taking Amtrak, you must get off at either Newark Penn or New York Penn. You can then take NJ Transit on the Northeast corridor to Secaucus Jct (this is "north" of Newark and "south" of NY), where you must transfer to the Main or Bergen Line. Most* Main and Bergen Line trains stop at the Ridgewood station, which is really close to the high school.

*-You don't need to worry about Main vs. Bergen Line, what you need to worry about are the few express trains that don't stop until Ramsey or Suffern, NY.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:15 pm

Oh, yeah, do you want an official e-mail registration, or is posting here just fine?
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Post by Great Bustard » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:51 pm

Down and out in Quintana Roo wrote:Oh, yeah, do you want an official e-mail registration, or is posting here just fine?
Posting here is fine, though at some point I'll need to know how many people are coming.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Great Bustard » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:58 pm

2 Quick Updates:

1. I'm going to allow coaches to play with their current teams on Saturday - they thus have the option of playing either with the team they are currently coaching or the school where they attended high school. This is a moot point for Friday (where teams can be of any conglomeration) and Sunday (where I'm maintaining a strict high school / college split - coaches must play for the college they attended).
2. I've increased the distribution to 21/21 - adding 1 "Your Choice" of Sci, History, or Lit. The packets themselves will still be 4/4/4 across those 3 subject areas, but this will help avoid repeats and make my life as editor much easier.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by adzaho31 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:18 am

SunWukong wrote:All this sounds excellent, but I might be busy (that's 4th of July weekend so I might be in London). I attended the Maggie Walker mirror of the superb ATTACK set, so I'd be interested in there being an alternate set for Saturday. Put me down as being interested pending confirmation on the date. I doubt I'll get team mates from my high school team (but you never know) but hopefully can play this as a high school team (just graduated seniors) from Brown 2016 (Adam Horowitz is close at least) and get a jump start on playing together as a team.
Coincidentally I'll also be in London in early July. I will return to U.S. soil on Saturday night, so Friday and Saturday are definitely off the table, but I think I can go Sunday and would love to play with Dan for Brown if I can make it. I'll also talk to my high school team and see if any of them are available.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by jmannor2 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:13 pm

I will be up in New Jersey during this time, so put me down as interested for whatever events I would be allowed to play.
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Post by Panayot Hitov » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:57 pm

Oakland Mills expresses interest for Saturday.
EDIT: In the Standard division
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Scaled Flowerpiercer » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:22 pm

I saw in the opening post that you mentioned side events as a possibility. If there is ample interest among people who did not play it already I could probably run a side event on the YMIR mythology set, as I noticed that it doesn't seem like anyone else has suggested anything else.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by MorganV » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:22 pm

Why couldn't it be this weekend, I literally was just in New Jersey for two days =P

I'm going to tentatively express interest in attending although I doubt I'll actually be able to get out there (Like Daniel, I've also played ATTACK so I wouldn't be able to do that anyways). If I don't, I could probably submit a packet anyways that you could use for finals or tiebreakers or whatever on Friday.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Great Bustard » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:56 pm

MorganV wrote:Why couldn't it be this weekend, I literally was just in New Jersey for two days =P
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MorganV wrote: I'm going to tentatively express interest in attending although I doubt I'll actually be able to get out there (Like Daniel, I've also played ATTACK so I wouldn't be able to do that anyways). If I don't, I could probably submit a packet anyways that you could use for finals or tiebreakers or whatever on Friday.
Cool, any help would be great. My dad, believe it or not, was on the Loyola quiz bowl team in the 1960's (he did the same Chicago variant of It's Academic that Hillary Clinton did back in the day). He would be floored if his alma mater were represented.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by gneissisnice » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:21 pm

Expressing interest from Stony Brook University and Ward Melville High School (expert division, since we'd have graduates).
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Cheynem » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:40 pm

My film tournament will be ready by this date if there's any interest in running that and if there's no significant field overlap with KABO (I doubt it is just eyeballing it).

It is written for mature audiences, though, so there's profanity and references to R-rated films if that frightens the children.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by gneissisnice » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:00 pm

I do have a question, I don't think I quite understand the breakdown completely.

We have three people (including me) on our team that should be able to play all three days, since we went to the same high school (Ward Melville) and we're all in the same college (Stony Brook). But for Saturday, one of our players is playing on a different high school team because he went to a different high school (King's Park). So if we get a current high schooler or graduating senior to play with us on Saturday, can he or she stay on our team for Sunday too, or is that not okay because they wouldn't be going to our college with us, and our team wouldn't consist entirely of people from Ward Melville?

I know that's probably confusing, so basically my question is, on Sunday can we have a mix of people from our high school and people from our college?
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by ProfessorIanDuncan » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:21 pm

I do have a question, I don't think I quite understand the breakdown completely.

We have three people (including me) on our team that should be able to play all three days, since we went to the same high school (Ward Melville) and we're all in the same college (Stony Brook). But for Saturday, one of our players is playing on a different high school team because he went to a different high school (King's Park). So if we get a current high schooler or graduating senior to play with us on Saturday, can he or she stay on our team for Sunday too, or is that not okay because they wouldn't be going to our college with us, and our team wouldn't consist entirely of people from Ward Melville?
From my understanding, it seems like the answer is yes but that high schooler would have to play in the expert division, which is something that you'd have to bring up with that student.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Great Bustard » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:31 pm

gneissisnice wrote:I do have a question, I don't think I quite understand the breakdown completely.

We have three people (including me) on our team that should be able to play all three days, since we went to the same high school (Ward Melville) and we're all in the same college (Stony Brook). But for Saturday, one of our players is playing on a different high school team because he went to a different high school (King's Park). So if we get a current high schooler or graduating senior to play with us on Saturday, can he or she stay on our team for Sunday too, or is that not okay because they wouldn't be going to our college with us, and our team wouldn't consist entirely of people from Ward Melville?

I know that's probably confusing, so basically my question is, on Sunday can we have a mix of people from our high school and people from our college?
Friday: Anything goes - it's a true open, so form teams with whomever you like. On the off chance we get enough teams of completely disparate ability, I will consider doing a divisional breakdown, but this appears both unlikely and unnecessary at present.
Saturday: Teams are by high school affiliation only, including for everyone who has graduated from high school. So in other words, anyone on your team has to have gone to Ward Melville with the exception of the current coach of Ward Melville's team (if there is one).
Sunday: Teams are by current affiliation for anyone still in high school or undergraduates in college. Class of 2012 high school seniors can either play with their high school teams or college teams. Class of 2012 college seniors can either play with their undergrad or grad (if they are going to grad school) affiliations. Alumni (i.e. adults with no current affiliation) can play with either their grad or undergrad affiliations, but teams must declare if they have such players on them.

That all said, there is a discount for playing solo, so that's an option for someone who is a Ward Melvillite, but not a Stony Brookite, or vice versa. I hope this clears up any confusion here.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by gneissisnice » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:54 pm

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gneissisnice wrote:I do have a question, I don't think I quite understand the breakdown completely.

We have three people (including me) on our team that should be able to play all three days, since we went to the same high school (Ward Melville) and we're all in the same college (Stony Brook). But for Saturday, one of our players is playing on a different high school team because he went to a different high school (King's Park). So if we get a current high schooler or graduating senior to play with us on Saturday, can he or she stay on our team for Sunday too, or is that not okay because they wouldn't be going to our college with us, and our team wouldn't consist entirely of people from Ward Melville?

I know that's probably confusing, so basically my question is, on Sunday can we have a mix of people from our high school and people from our college?
Friday: Anything goes - it's a true open, so form teams with whomever you like. On the off chance we get enough teams of completely disparate ability, I will consider doing a divisional breakdown, but this appears both unlikely and unnecessary at present.
Saturday: Teams are by high school affiliation only, including for everyone who has graduated from high school. So in other words, anyone on your team has to have gone to Ward Melville with the exception of the current coach of Ward Melville's team (if there is one).
Sunday: Teams are by current affiliation for anyone still in high school or undergraduates in college. Class of 2012 high school seniors can either play with their high school teams or college teams. Class of 2012 college seniors can either play with their undergrad or grad (if they are going to grad school) affiliations. Alumni (i.e. adults with no current affiliation) can play with either their grad or undergrad affiliations, but teams must declare if they have such players on them.

That all said, there is a discount for playing solo, so that's an option for someone who is a Ward Melvillite, but not a Stony Brookite, or vice versa. I hope this clears up any confusion here.
Ah ok, I understand now. Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by felix » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:03 pm

GNS is interested in bringing a team and a moderator for Friday, and an expert division team for Saturday (possibly adding a standard div team).
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by jmannor2 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:01 pm

I know I would love to play the film tournament!
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by ryanrosenberg » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:02 pm

I would like to play the film tournament as well.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by cindy_du » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:34 pm

Hi,
Scarsdale High School would like to have one team for saturday, probably in the expert bracket
(And in general, Hi, I'm Cindy. I'm sorta the new Evan Kratzer since he's gone on to the great beyond that is princeton)
Oh and we have one person whos interested in film as well.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Great Bustard » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:58 pm

Two quick updates. We are figuring out which team members can host out-of-towners this weekend, and will post availability on a first-come, first-served basis by Tuesday. Also by then, I expect to have a formal announcement regarding tournament location on Sunday. We will definitely find a spot for it, though.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by mlaird » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:59 pm

I know this is anal and all, but given recent dustups involving the IHSA, I feel it is important to note that Loyola has not expressed any interest in this tournament and should not be marked down as such. A student from Loyola has expressed interest as an individual, but he in no way officially represents the school, nor should he be referred to as such.

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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Great Bustard » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:28 am

Right, it's just that for that tournament, even if students play on their own, they're required to play with their school teams. If no one else comes from their school, then they're still grouped that way. For disclaimer purposes, though, no schools who are listed above should be construed as being officially sanctioned by their administration for participating (although I'm sure that most, if not all, would have no problem with their students taking part). Schools, rather than individuals are listed for convenience purposes, since that's how the tournament is being run. Likewise, don't expect that schools listed here will be represented by their usual A teams (whether from last year or this coming year).
If anyone has a real problem with this, let me know, and I'm fine with changing the team name to name of said student who expressed interest.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by mlaird » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:39 am

Yeah, given our past involvement with the IHSA, it is clear that they will not see it that way. Please just change it so that our school is not listed.

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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:10 pm

Given that Matt's the head coach at Loyola, he probably is the person to listen to regarding this issue.
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by Scaled Flowerpiercer » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:56 pm

What will be the format for Friday's tournament? Just a round robin with teams sitting out when their round is read followed by a final if necessary? And I guess you will be writing the Finals packet(s), Dave?
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Re: 3 Day Ridgewood Summer Invitational: July 6-8, Ridgewood, NJ

Post by roey » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:48 pm

Ranney is interested in attending at least on Friday.
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