New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

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Post by jonah » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:58 am

The 2012 New Trier Varsity tournament: INTENSE (Invitational at New Trier: Exploring Noted Scholastic Excellence) will take place on December 22 on the GSAC set, written and edited by the quizbowl team at the Maggie L. Walker Governor's School for Government and International Studies (Richmond, Virginia). Teams from out of state are welcomed: we typically attract a very strong field. In the past we have had teams from South Carolina, Texas, Ohio, Michigan, and Indiana.

Registration/Contact. Contact <register@ntvarsity.com> to register, apply to moderate or otherwise staff, or for anything else. (This address directs to both me and my co-TD, former New Trier coach David Reinstein. We can be individually contacted at <jonah@jonahgreenthal.com> and <reinsted@newtrier.k12.il.us>, but please use <register@ntvarsity.com> for anything tournament-related.) A formal invitation letter and entry form are available.

Tournament Format. Tournament Format. We will have two divisions, designated Über-Competitive and Standard. Teams choose which division they enter into, although we reserve the right to deny a team's request to enter the Standard division. The Über-Competitive division will be limited to 24 teams and will (assuming we hit 24 teams) consist of four brackets of six teams each, rebracketed into three brackets of eight teams each in which the match against the team from the same preliminary bracket is not replayed, and followed by ACF-style finals. The Standard division will attempt to accommodate as many teams as desire to enter, and will probably be based on bracketed round robins. Programs may enter (for example) an A team in the Über-Competitive division and a B team in the Standard division. When you email ntv@qbwiki.com to register, please indicate how many teams you wish to enter in each division.

Rules. We will use ACF rules except that teams of five are permitted (per Illinois norms), and correspondingly, rosters are capped at 7 per team. We may or may not use powers.

Fees. $75 per team; teams traveling long distances or who are in financial hardship should inquire for a discount. Illinois teams are expected to bring functional buzzer systems able to accommodate five players on each of two sides unless otherwise arranged. Staff discounts are arranged by having your staffer contact us offering to staff as above; we can credit the $40 to your entry fee if you want.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:59 am

Current Field
Über-Competitive Division (16): Auburn A, Belvidere North A, Bloomington A, Buffalo Grove A, Detroit Catholic Central, Fenton, IMSA A-B, Latin School, Loyola Academy A, Maine South A, Metea Valley A, Springfield, St. Joseph, Stevenson A-B

Über-Competitive Division Waitlist:

Standard Division (36): Auburn B-C, Barrington, Belvidere North B-C, Bloomington B, Buffalo Grove B, Carbondale, Centennial (Champaign), Crete-Monee A-B, Hoffman Estates A-B, Homewood-Flossmoor A-B, Keith Country Day, Latin School B, Libertyville, Loyola Academy B, Maine South B, Metea Valley B, Morrison, New Trier A-B, Oak Park-River Forest A-B, St. Viator A-B, Stillman Valley, UChicago Lab A-B, Wauconda A-B, Wheaton Academy A-B, Wheaton North

Standard Division Waitlist:

Expressed Interest:
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by Euler's Constant » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:35 pm

St. Joseph (IN) expresses interest for 1 team Uber division
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by RFedewa » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:31 pm

Depending on how many of our players are available, Stevenson expresses interest in two teams for the Uber Division, and one team for the Standard Division.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:31 pm

A formal invitation letter and entry form are now available.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by mr_basque » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:18 am

Jonah,

I'll staff this for you. and will be bringing 2 unaffiliated teams with one for each division.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:58 pm

mr_basque wrote:I'll staff this for you. and will be bringing 2 unaffiliated teams with one for each division.
Unfortunately, attending as an unaffiliated team won't be possible because this is a 5-on-5 tournament. Probably best to email Reinstein and me to discuss.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:12 pm

jonah wrote:
mr_basque wrote:I'll staff this for you. and will be bringing 2 unaffiliated teams with one for each division.
Unfortunately, attending as an unaffiliated team won't be possible because this is a 5-on-5 tournament. Probably best to email Reinstein and me to discuss.
This has been resolved; Belvidere North has 3 teams officially in the field.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by 4nay » Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:55 pm

Plainfield North would like to express interest for Standard Division.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:27 pm

4nay wrote:Plainfield North would like to express interest for Standard Division.
Noted.

Everyone else, we'd love to have you too!
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Post by MissIrene » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:51 pm

Wauconda expresses interest for at least an A team in the Standard division.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by Mike Wong » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:16 pm

I'll be able to staff, but I might not be needed if the field doesn't get any bigger.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by David Riley » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:15 am

I wouldn't worry about that. This tournament always attracts a large field.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:26 pm

We've had a bunch of registrations over the last few days, but have lots more room, and lots of the usual suspects have yet to register. Let's get that fixed.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by Dominator » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:40 pm

IMSA B is more than just interested. Please move them up to "actually coming".
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Post by jonah » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:50 pm

Dominator wrote:IMSA B is more than just interested. Please move them up to "actually coming".
Done.

More teams should do what Noah just did.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by Irreligion in Bangladesh » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:35 pm

We've got enough commitments to put Keith A in the standard division, but B will have to linger on the waitlist a little longer.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by garciaja » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:54 pm

Champaign Centennial will be fit for the Standard division this year. We'll be there with 1 team.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:25 pm

garciaja wrote:Champaign Centennial will be fit for the Standard division this year. We'll be there with 1 team.
You're in.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:19 am

The Standard Division is getting to a pretty good size, but the Über-Competitive Division is a little light. Keep the registrations coming!
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:07 pm

The day after this tournament, Maine South High School (about half an hour away from New Trier, in Park Ridge) will be hosting a "publess pub trivia" event (pub trivia-style games; food and non-alcoholic drinks). Details at viewtopic.php?p=252985#p252985.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:33 pm

We have 11 teams in the Über-Competitive Division and 27 in the Standard Division. Can we get at least 1 and 3 more?
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by shrey96 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:39 pm

Metea Valley would like to express interest for one team in Uber and one team in Standard.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by Kilroy Was Here » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:26 pm

Has there been a decision as to wether or not there will be powers for this?
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by Adventure Temple Trail » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:35 pm

Weighted Companion Cube wrote:Has there been a decision as to wether or not there will be powers for this?
The GSAC set doesn't have any at least according to the main site stats, so it seems incumbent upon hosts to keep it that way.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:05 pm

Weighted Companion Cube wrote:Has there been a decision as to wether or not there will be powers for this?
A decision has not been made. It basically depends on how much free time I have between when I receive the set and the tournament.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by Adventure Temple Trail » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:48 pm

jonah wrote:
Weighted Companion Cube wrote:Has there been a decision as to wether or not there will be powers for this?
A decision has not been made. It basically depends on how much free time I have between when I receive the set and the tournament.
To be a little more forward: Doesn't it also "basically depend" on whether the set actually has powers in it or not, and whether its editors approve of someone else adding them?
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Post by Kilroy Was Here » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:23 pm

RyuAqua wrote:
jonah wrote:
Weighted Companion Cube wrote:Has there been a decision as to wether or not there will be powers for this?
A decision has not been made. It basically depends on how much free time I have between when I receive the set and the tournament.
To be a little more forward: Doesn't it also "basically depend" on whether the set actually has powers in it or not, and whether its editors approve of someone else adding them?
Last year the editors from MW approved a power marking of the set, so I assume this is the same arrangement.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by mlaird » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:10 pm

OK sign Loyola up for one in the standard division as well.

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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:34 pm

RyuAqua wrote:
jonah wrote:
Weighted Companion Cube wrote:Has there been a decision as to wether or not there will be powers for this?
A decision has not been made. It basically depends on how much free time I have between when I receive the set and the tournament.
To be a little more forward: Doesn't it also "basically depend" on whether the set actually has powers in it or not, and whether its editors approve of someone else adding them?
Yes, and they do.
mlaird wrote:OK sign Loyola up for one in the standard division as well.
Done.
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Post by tinioril » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:19 pm

How is Wheaton North playing Standard for this?
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Post by Charles Martel » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:22 pm

They could be missing players.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:22 pm

tinioril wrote:How is Wheaton North playing Standard for this?
They will be missing two of their best players.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:24 pm

Fenton has moved into the Über-Competitive Division, which thus now has 12 teams. I'm going to close it unless there is enough interest to get to 18 teams. There are 28 teams in the Standard Division, and registrations are still being accepted.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:41 pm

jonah wrote:Fenton has moved into the Über-Competitive Division, which thus now has 12 teams. I'm going to close it unless there is enough interest to get to 18 teams. There are 28 teams in the Standard Division, and registrations are still being accepted.
On further thoguht, the Über-Competitive Division is closed until there are enough potential registrations for 16 teams.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:58 pm

Hoffman Estates has entered two teams in the Standard Division, which now contains 30 teams. I am now cutting off registrations for both divisions unless we can get to 16 teams in the Über-Competitive Division, 36 in the Standard Division.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:52 pm

Metea Valley has joined both waitlists. Sign up now so you get to play them and lots of other great competition!
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:29 am

Lots of movement; the waitlists are clear. Registration is closed for both divisions unless we can get to 16 teams in the Über-Competitive Division.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:36 am

Descriptions of the tournament format for the Über-Competitive Division and for the Standard Division are now posted.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by Deviant Insider » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:54 am

We are doing some shuffling. Our field is growing a little bit, and we now expect to end up with 16 teams in the Über-Competitive Division and 36 teams in the Standard Division, including Buffalo Grove A, Latin, and Stevenson B in the former.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:45 pm

With the Über-Competitive Division going to 16 teams, a revised description of the format is now available. We could use another staffer or two.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:47 pm

In the Über-Competitive Division, the upper playoff bracket is Belvidere North A, Detroit Catholic Central, IMSA A, Loyola Academy A, Stevenson A, Auburn A, Metea Valley A, and IMSA B.

In the Standard Division the top playoff brackets are Wheaton North, Whitney Young, Keith Country Day, Centennial, Homewood-Flossmoor A, Oak Park-River Forest; and Carbondale, St. Viator A, Stillman Valley, Auburn B, Wauconda A, and Libertyville.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:06 pm

In the Über-Competitive Division, Belvidere North A beat Detroit Catholic Central in the second game of a final in which Belvidere North A had had the advantage. In the Standard Division, Carbondale beat Wheaton North in the final. Full stats in a few hours.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:55 pm

Stats for the Über-Competitive Division: preliminary rounds, playoffs, combined

Stats for the Standard Division: preliminary rounds, playoffs, combined

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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by SrilankanSwagga » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:02 am

I get the 404 error when I try to look at the Uber-Competitive Stats.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:31 am

SrilankanSwagga wrote:I get the 404 error when I try to look at the Uber-Competitive Stats.
It's fixed now.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by The Bold Ideas of Bernie Sanders (I-VT) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:45 am

IMSA somehow scored 739 despite there being no 4-4-4-4-4 bonuses present? C'est impressive.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by jonah » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:53 am

merv1618 wrote:IMSA somehow scored 739 despite there being no 4-4-4-4-4 bonuses present? C'est impressive.
They're 9 points less impressive than they look, but still pretty good. I'll have that fixed in a few minutes; thanks for pointing it out.
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by David Riley » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:53 am

I found a few factual errors; to whom should these be reported?
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Re: New Trier Varsity: INTENSE — 2012–12–22 (Winnetka, IL)

Post by Deviant Insider » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:46 am

Jonah is putting a list together, so, if you can do so quickly, I recommend sending them to him, and I'd be happy to be cc'd. After today, you can contact gsacdirector@gmail.com.
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