LIFT VII (10/27/07)

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LIFT VII (10/27/07)

Post by BroNi » Wed May 02, 2007 12:01 pm

An early announcement to reserve a future date....

LIFT VII (Long Island Fall Tournament VII) will be held on Saturday, 10/27/07, the last Saturday in October.

Details will be posted as the date approaches, but for now we can tell you that it will be using a NAQT "A" set and that the games will be 20 questions/bonuses untimed.

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Post by BroNi » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:47 am

Here are some details concerning LIFT VII

- $60.00 First team, $50.00 each additional
- $10.00 discount/buzzer system, $10.00 discount/moderator (maximum total discount $50.00)

- NAQT set 71A (probably our last year with A sets)

- Guaranteed at least 6 games - very likely more for we are going to try to hold 2 echelons of single elimination playoffs - upper and lower levels

- It will either be held at Kellenberg Memorial HS (Uniondale, LI, NY) or Northport HS (Northport, LI, NY)

- Please email me (bronigel at Kellenberg.org), or reply here, if you are interested in attending....and how many teams.
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Post by BroNi » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:51 am

Further information....

This year, Kellenberg will be running the tourney solo. Therefore the location will be at Kellenberg MHS in Uniondale, Long Island, NY, right off of Exit M4 West from the Meadowbrook Parkway.

Registration will be from 7:30 to 8:30 a.m., with the first round starting at 8:45 a.m. The Award ceremony will be at 6:00 p.m.

As in the past, we will have a constantly updated projection of the preliminary results as soon as they are entered for all to see and check during the day.

Last year we had 50 teams from 22 schools. We can accommodate around 85 teams. So as a early Registration incentive, from now to Sept. 28th, we will not place any limit on the amount of teams that a school would like to bring. However, I reserve the right to limit the number of teams from any school that registers after that date.

Currently Registered teams:

Bloomfield, NJ (? tms)
Charter, DE (a "busload")
Seton Hall, NJ (3 tms)
Stuyvesant (4 tms)
White Plains (4 tms)
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Post by btressler » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:33 pm

A "busload" is probably 7, possibly 6 or 8.

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Post by Mike Bentley » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:15 pm

Stat74 wrote:A "busload" is probably 7, possibly 6 or 8.
If those are 7 or 8, that's ridiculous (in a good way if that wasn't clear). I can't wait to see Charter I kick some ass.
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Post by btressler » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:04 pm

Well, Charter G was in the top half of Byko's ratings last year.

I actually cut a dozen people for my own sanity. But we still have about 35 players.

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Post by ckmets13 » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:26 pm

Brother Nigel, What happened to Northport ..why arent we hosting with you this year? I graduated in '06, in college now so I dont know whats happening with Northport quiz bowl.

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Post by BroNi » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:54 am

Last year's coach stepped down, and I couldn't get her replacement to answer a number of emails, so I presumed they weren't interested.

He contacted me recently and may help out anyway....but at Kellenberg.
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Post by The Infanta » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:31 pm

There will also be an OPTIONAL trash round during lunch. The trash will be house-written with a well-varied distribution, mostly centered on movies, TV, and music.
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Post by BroNi » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:44 am

Registered Schools (# of Teams)

Bellmore JFKennedy, NY (1)
Bergan Ct. Academy, NJ (2)
Charter Wilmington, DE (8)
Colonia, NJ (2)
East Rockaway, NY (2)
Georgetown Day School, DC (1)
Half Hollow Hills East, NY (4)
Half Hollow Hills West, NY (3)
Horace Greeley, NY (2)
Hunter, NY (1)
Kings Park, NY (1)
Mineola, NY (1)
Moravian Acad, PA (3)
Morristown Beard, NJ (2)
North Babylon, NY (2)
North Shore, NY (3)
Our Lady of Mercy, NY (1)
Rye Country Day, NY (3)
Seton Hall, NJ (4)
Smithtown East, NY (2)
Smithtown West, NY (2)
St. Anthony's, NY (3)
St. Peter's Prep, NJ (2)
Stuyvesant, NY (5)
Ursuline Acad, DE (2)
Valley Stream South, NY (2)
Ward Melville, NY (2)
White Plains, NY (4)

28 schools, 70 teams

Registration is closed.
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Post by Sir Thopas » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:28 pm

Hunter tentatively (but pretty likely) registers 1 team, probably not 2, although I guess it could be conceivable that we bring two.
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Post by mistermoravian » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:32 pm

Hunter tentatively (but pretty likely) registers 1 team, probably not 2, although I guess it could be conceivable that we bring two.
Take everything that Guy just wrote, but substitute Hunter with Moravian!

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Post by BroNi » Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:03 pm

Field updated above.
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Post by btressler » Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:01 pm

Ursuline is Delaware, not NJ

Any chance of going to a round of 32 in the playoffs this year? That probably would mean no more than 6 prelims if you keep a spare packet.

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Post by BroNi » Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:55 pm

Corrected, thank you.

We might consider it. The other option, which we are tending more toward right now, is to keep the 7 prelim. rounds and then have two single elim. brackets, one of the top 16 teams and one of teams 17 thru 32.
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Post by The Infanta » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:50 pm

Forget what I said about the trash round. Due to technical complications, it ain't happenin'.
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Post by TheCzarMan » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:29 pm

Due to Homecoming and me being out of town, Bloomfield is now not coming instead of tentative.

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Post by BroNi » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:29 am

Field updated.

We have also decided to only have a playoff with the top 32 teams.
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Post by ieppler » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:53 pm

If it's still possible, Georgetown Day School would like to register 1 team with a buzzer system.
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Post by BroNi » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:37 pm

Ian, you're in. Please send me an email at the address listed in the second post above.
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Post by BroNi » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:49 pm

Quick results.....after a really long day...

1) Charter A
2) Moravian A
3) Georgetown Day School A
4) Hunter A
5) Stuyvesant A
6) Bergan County Acad. A
7) Horace Greeley A
8) Half Hollow Hills West A

Top Individual was Guy from Hunter, Ian from GDS A was second.

Enough for now, i am going to bed.
More to follow.
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Post by Bigfoot isn't the pr » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:50 am

The tournament was enjoyable, as all was, though I do have a few things to say.

The tournament was rather long. Prelims weren't over until about 3:30. Sure, some leeway must be given seeing as there were 68 teams, but it still dragged on. I can understand BroNi's logic in releasing the questions when all the rooms are done, but this means that your tournament runs only as fast as your slowest room and with rookies with little-to-no experience that means rounds can be going as long as 50 minutes. With seven prelims, thats almost 6 hours.

Aside from the length there were no real issues. I know that Charter A was a bit disappointed that they were not able to take a crack at Stuy A without Douglas. But finally winning the tournament made up for them not having a chance to play Stuy A.

The final was a well played match. It came down to the last question (mainly due to two back-to-back negs by Charter's own Henry, but he redeemed himself). Final score Charter 350 Moravian 330.

The tournament, despite a vicious accusation of fraudulent quiz bowl aimed at Charter by a certain New York school due to a team member's speech impediment, was enjoyable as always.

-Rob

P.S. I would like to personally congratulate Ben and Moravian for a tournament well-played. Ever since I first met the team at NAQT NATs 2006 they have always been polite and worthy opponents. Kudos for improving the team into one of the strongest out of PA.
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Post by DumbJaques » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:55 am

The tournament, despite a vicious accusation of fraudulent quiz bowl aimed at Charter by a certain New York school due to a team members speech impediment, was enjoyable as always.
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Post by btressler » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:52 am

It involves the moderator awarding points until a coach screamed her down and she retracted her ruling. I tried to deal with it at the tournament but it was left unresolved because the opponents left and it was in a consolation match whose impact affected the final ranking between 9 and 16.

I'd really rather just let the incident be over. It was an unfortunate blemish on a long but enjoyable tournament. And board drama usually leaves a foul taste in my mouth.

And I too would like to extend kudos to Ben and Moravian. A well-played tournament all around.

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Post by BroNi » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:20 pm

68 teams from 28 schools...

Rd. of 32
1 Charter A 690 d. 32 Ward Melville B -5
2 Hunter A 595 d. 31 North Shore A 40
3 Moravian A 540 d. 30 Half Hollow Hills (HHH) E A 125
4 Stuyvesant A 540 d. 29 St. Anthony's A 65
5 Charter C 500 d. 28 Moravian B 60
6 Horace Greeley A 400 d. 27 HHH W B 185
7 Seton Hall A 535 d. 26 Charter F 80
8 HHH W A 555 d. 25 Seton Hall B 80
9 White Plains A 440 d. 24 Valley Stream S B 75
10 Bergan Ct. Acad A 405 d. 23 Smithtown E A 115
11 Rye Ct. Day A 245 d. 22 Smithtown W A 120
12 Georgetown Day Sch (GDS) A 280 d. 21 St. Peter's A 170
13 Charter D 425 d. 20 Ward Melville A 95
14 Bergan Ct. Day B 270 d. 19 Horace Greeley B 205
15 Stuyvesant B 295 d. 18 Rye Ct. Day B 120
16 Charter B 335 d. 17 Charter E 225

Rd. of 16
1 Charter A 470 d. 16 Charter B 190
2 Hunter A 515 d. 15 Stuyvesant B 50
3 Moravian A 310 d. 14 Bergan Ct. Acad B 205
4 Stuyvesant A 270 d. 13 Charter D 175
12 GDS A 285 d. 5 Charter C 245
6 Horace Greeley A 280 d. 11 Rye Ct. Day A 220
10 Bergan Ct. Acad A 270 d. 7 Seton Hall A 265
8 HHHW A 320 d. 9 White Plains A 240

Quarterfinals
1 Charter A 525 d. 8 HHHW A 170
2 Hunter A 385 d. 10 Bergan Ct. Acad A 260
3 Moravian A 490 d. 6 Horace Greeley A 195
12 GDS A 380 d. 4 Stuyvesant A 210

Semifinals
1 Charter A 425 d. 12 GDS A 260
3 Moravian A 330 d. 2 Hunter A 325

3rd place match
12 GDS A 350 d. 2 Hunter A 250

Championship
1 Charter A 350 d. Moravian A 330

Edit: Score adjusted.
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Post by Sir Thopas » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:12 pm

Although the tournament started out pretty slow, it was still a lot of fun, and the prelim readers were pretty good, for the most part. Congrats to Charter A for winning and to Moravian and GDS for beating us in tight games (well, the latter less so, but there were a bunch of buzzer races) to make the top three.

Also, slight nitpick: our game against Moravian was 330-325, not 305. The latter would not have been nearly as intense when, down by 40, we powered tossup 20 and got the first two parts of the bonus.
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Post by Devon13 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:04 pm

Devon from WMB checking in

AKA-The Biggest Negger

They said I had 17, but I really had 24. Shove it, guys.

I was also in the midst of the biggest drubbing in playoff history, I'm sure. 690 to -5? Ouch. But at least Charter A went on to win it all.

I'm still glad I got Stephen Colbert with power. Otherwise, it's -20.

Congrats to all, I had a ton of fun in my first ever Quizbowl.

BTW, one prelim reader (green shirt) had to be the fastest speaker I've ever heard. He will be the guy who reads the side effects on drug commercials in a few years

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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:39 pm

Devon13 wrote:I was also in the midst of the biggest drubbing in playoff history, I'm sure. 690 to -5? Ouch.
Actually back in the day on a similar format and on much harder questions TJ A beat Walton 885-95 in the playoffs of the NAQT national championships. Right after that they beat the eventual 2nd place team 760-30. Also, this year in the national playoffs Maggie Walker won a game 710-30. But yeah, 690- -5 isnt pretty, sorry that happened to you.
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Post by Fucitol » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:03 pm

Devon13 wrote:Devon from WMB checking in

AKA-The Biggest Negger

They said I had 17, but I really had 24. Shove it, guys.

I have the results, and your neg totals were 17 in the prelims(which is what counted for the neg award) and 6 more in the playoffs, which total to 23, not 24, and in the part that counted for the neg awards, you had 17.

Moving on to stuff that matters, The full results are now posted in the website in my profile.

WARNING: THE ONLY LINKS THAT WORK ARE THE ONES ON THE ACTUAL WEBSITE! THE LINKS IN THE FILE DO NOT WORK BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES!
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Post by The Infanta » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:08 pm

Devon13 wrote:
BTW, one prelim reader (green shirt) had to be the fastest speaker I've ever heard. He will be the guy who reads the side effects on drug commercials in a few years

Hahaha, Nik. I can definitely see him doing that.
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Post by BroNi » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:00 pm

Let's make the results easier to access:

http://www.freewebs.com/jlaskerquizbowl/liftwerunit.htm
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Post by BroNi » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:44 am

Finally, as a NAQT HS National Championhip qualifying tournament, the top 15% earn berths. Consolation matches were played during the playoff rounds to determine overall final rankings. Therefore the following teams qualify for the HS NCT...

1) Charter A
2) Moravian A
3) Georgetwn DS A
4) Hunter A
5) Stuyvesant A
6) Bergan CA A
7) HGreeley A
8) HHHW A
9) Charter C
10) Seton Hall A
11) White Plns A
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Post by First Chairman » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:02 am

Also, if the tournament wants to affiliated with PACE, the top 4 teams automatically qualify for the NSC. The quarterfinalists are eligible for wildcard bids if they do not otherwise qualify.
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Post by Byko » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:07 pm

Will Run PACE for Reese's wrote:Also, if the tournament wants to affiliated with PACE, the top 4 teams automatically qualify for the NSC. The quarterfinalists are eligible for wildcard bids if they do not otherwise qualify.
With this field size, it would actually be the top 8 automatically qualifying (n=68).
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