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Post by STPickrell » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:34 pm

Northwestern District (Group AA, Region II) results:

Brentsville 245, Warren County 105
Millbrook 180, Sherando 155
James Wood 240, Skyline 105
John Handley 265, Central-Woodstock 100

Brentsville 220, Millbrook 170
John Handley 240, James Wood 160

Brentsville 230, John Handley 145

Brentsville advances as District regular season champ, John Handley advances as tournament runner-up.

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Post by scbalik » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:15 am

AA Dulles District Meet today:

Will Dominion win the tournament after going undefeated in the regular season and win the regular season and tournament again after doing so last year? Maybe, but I smell an upset. Park View has been in every match this season and every one of their losses has been decided on the final few questions. Freedom is also strong but is a one-man team. Pot Falls has amorris and may be able to pull an upset. this looks to be an exciting tournament. Good luck to everyone tonight!

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Post by scbalik » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:01 am

Well, Dominion pulled off the undefeated season, defeating Park View in the final. Broad Run was third followed by Heritage in fourth. PV and Dominion advanced to the regional tournament.

Mr. Pickrell, do you have the brackets for the region tournaments???

P.S. amorris525-tell your friend zach I got the ***** question-he will know what this means...

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Post by STPickrell » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:51 pm

scbalik wrote:Well, Dominion pulled off the undefeated season, defeating Park View in the final. Broad Run was third followed by Heritage in fourth. PV and Dominion advanced to the regional tournament.

Mr. Pickrell, do you have the brackets for the region tournaments???

P.S. amorris525-tell your friend zach I got the ***** question-he will know what this means...
Be careful. Those matches are being used all over Virginia and Missouri.

I don't know who will be playing whom. Have your coach (if you're from PV I know who it is) contact me so I can give her/him the name of the region TD.

Two of the district winners get a bye to the second round. I will be a reader at the Region II tournament.

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Post by STPickrell » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:20 pm

Bull Run closed out their season last week

Set #25: Mason 250, Clarke 135
Rappahannock 290, Strasburg 85
Madison 160, Manassas Park 130

Set #26: Mason 265, Strasburg 120
Clarke 180, Manassas Park 160
Rappahannock 195, Madison 125

Set #27: Clarke 170, Strasburg 160

So ...
George Mason 20-0
Rappahannock Co. 16-4
Clarke Co. 11-9
Manassas Park 6-14
Strasburg 5-15
Madison County 2-18

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Post by pretzeldude92 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:37 am

I have a question. Is tomorrow the deadline for districts? If so, what would happen if the tournament had to be postponed? This is a very real possibility - Strasburg, Clarke, Madison, and Rapp are all closed today, and some of our roads are a mess. Same deal with the Shenandoah District; I know that Luray, SJ, and Page are all closed today due to the eotw blizzard.

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Post by kamikaze » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:11 pm

We're in the same boat down here in SW Virginia but we have a make up date for this upcoming Monday if we get snowed out tomorrow. Maybe it's the same in your district as well?
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Post by pretzeldude92 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:34 pm

According to our AD, Clarke (the host) says that we are still going to have it. I think that, if we don't, things could get complicated. We don't have a make-up date, and finals are next week for George Mason, so they don't want them before Thursday.

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Post by STPickrell » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:11 pm

Folks -- preferably the TD for the district tournaments or the AD of affected schools -- in snowy districts should contact Lisa Giles at the VHSL.

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Post by kamikaze » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:32 pm

The River Ridge District Results (AA)

Round 1
Blacksburg BYE
Cave Spring BYE
Salem 145 Christiansburg 140
Pulaski Co. 240 Hidden Valley 65

Round 2
Blacksburg 235 Salem 110
Pulaski Co. 150 Cave Spring 185

Round 3 [Loser's Bracket]
Christiansburg ??? (elim) Pulaski Co. ???
Salem 175 Hidden Valley 135 (elim)

Round 4
Blacksburg 135 Cave Spring 220

Round 5 [Loser's Bracket]
Pulaski Co. 130 (elim) Salem 210

Round 6 [Loser's Bracket]
Blacksburg 220 Salem 100 (elim - 3rd place)

Round 7 - Championship Match
Blacksburg 290 Cave Spring 100

Round 8 - Final Match
Blacksburg 220 Cave Spring 215 (elim - 2nd place)

The top three advance to Regionals: 1-Blacksburg, 2-Cave Spring, and 3-Salem. Congrats on Blacksburg on some good matches, including the last match where Blacksburg's key player got 6 in a row to move them ahead in the last few questions of the match.
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Post by pretzeldude92 » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:42 pm

Bull Run District Tournament Preliminary Results

Round 1:
Strasburg over Manassas Park
Clarke over Madison

Round 2:
George Mason 285, Strasburg 100
Rappahannock 270, Clarke 115

Round 3:
Madison over Manassas Park (elim)
Strasburg over Clarke (elim)
George Mason 230, Rappahannock 155

Round 4:
Strasburg 195, Madison 90 (elim)

Round 5:
Rappahannock 215, Strasburg 135 (elim)

Round 6:
Rappahannock 225, George Mason 205 snapping a 61 game district winning streak

Round 7:
George Mason 230, Rappahannock 160 (elim)

George Mason won its 9th straight district title, and both of us are headed to regionals at Luray on 2/2.

Edited because I can't count.
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Post by jbarnes112358 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:12 am

Colonial District AAA Championship Round Robin Tournament

Maggie Walker 5 - 0
Douglas Freeman 4 - 1
Mills Godwin 3 - 2
J. R. Tucker 2 - 3
Deep Run 1 - 4
Hermitage 0 - 5


J. R. Tucker 180
Hermitage 115

Maggie Walker 295
Douglas Freeman 125

Maggie Walker 350
J.R Tucker 35

Mills Godwin 180
Deep Run 155

Maggie Walker 250
Mills Godwin 165

Deep Run 185
Hermitage 105

Douglas Freeman 295
.R. Tucker 85

Mills Godwin 145
J. R. Tucker 130

Douglas Freeman 215
Hermitage 155

Douglas Freeman 215
Deep Run 145

Maggie Walker 295
Hermitage 110

Maggie Walker 285
Deep Run 135

Douglas Freeman 245
Mills Godwin 155

J.R. Tucker 165
Deep Run 155

Mills Godwin 195
Hermitage 110

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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:54 pm

Have all the districts played yet? (waiting to post in the "bad negs" thread)
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Post by STPickrell » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:11 pm

MLWGS-Gir wrote:Have all the districts played yet? (waiting to post in the "bad negs" thread)
Probably not. The tossups will also be seen in Missouri up through the end of March.

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Post by pretzeldude92 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:51 pm

From what I understand, from various sources, the teams qualified for the Region B tournament are:

Bull Run District: George Mason (regular season and tournament champion), Rappahannock Co.
Dogwood District: Dan River, Appomattox Co.
James River District: Central Lunenburg (regular season and tournament champion), Randolph Henry
Shenandoah District: Buffalo Gap (regular season champion), Wilson Memorial (tournament champion)

The tournament is February 2, 2008 at Luray High School beginning at noon.

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Post by Encyclopedia Brown » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:05 am

Does anyone have the results of the Capital, Dominion, and Central Districts? All I know is that Henrico won the Capital. Thank you for any info.

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Post by STPickrell » Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:32 am

In the Black Diamond:

Round One: Council 165 Twin Valley 75; Hurley 170 Haysi 90; Honaker bye

Round Two: Honaker 200 Council 80; Haysi 90 Twin Valley 80; Twin Valley eliminated

Round Three: Honaker 175 Hurley 155; Haysi 145 Council 140; Council eliminated

Round Four: Hurley 125 Haysi 115(overtime); Haysi eliminated

Round Five: final match Honaker 215 Hurley 155; Honaker district champion

Not sure if Hurley is building a better program or if they are riding a good player.

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Beach District results

Post by olsb25 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:40 pm

Ocean Lakes went undefeated in the tournament, beating Bayside, First Colonial, Cox, and Princess Anne to win the Beach District for the third year in a row.

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Post by STPickrell » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:40 pm

Region II results:

Charlottesville 235, Handley 155
Western Albemarle 300, Park View 140

Charlottesville 210, Dominion 175
Western Albemarle 205, Brentsville 195

Charlottesville 245, Western Albemarle 140
Dominion 265, Park View 125 (eliminated)
Brentsville 205, Handley 175 (eliminated)

Brentsville 200, Dominion 165 (eliminated)

Western Albemarle 200, Brentsville 190 (eliminated)

Western Albemarle 210, Charlottesville 180

Western Albemarle 200, Charlottesville 160

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Post by Carolus Magnus » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:16 pm

STPickrell wrote:In the Black Diamond:

Round One: Council 165 Twin Valley 75; Hurley 170 Haysi 90; Honaker bye

Round Two: Honaker 200 Council 80; Haysi 90 Twin Valley 80; Twin Valley eliminated

Round Three: Honaker 175 Hurley 155; Haysi 145 Council 140; Council eliminated

Round Four: Hurley 125 Haysi 115(overtime); Haysi eliminated

Round Five: final match Honaker 215 Hurley 155; Honaker district champion

Not sure if Hurley is building a better program or if they are riding a good player.
Hurley has one excellent player this year, with a very broad amount of knowledge, but it's his senior year in high school, so Hurley's performance will most likely drop next year.

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Results on Sat 1/28

Post by mom » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:31 pm

Does anyone have the results from Saturday at EC Glass in Lynchburg?
I believe Albemarle won and Liberty was third - but I was wondering about the rest.
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Post by STPickrell » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:20 pm

Eastern Region: Hickory won and Princess Anne was second.

Northwestern Region: Albemarle won and George Washington was second.

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Post by intothenegs » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:56 pm

AA Region I results:

Champion: Chancellor
Runner-up: Poquoson
3. James Monroe
4. York
5. Prince Edward, Jamestown
7. King George, Bluestone

Chancellor and Poquoson advance to the AA State Tournament.

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Post by jbarnes112358 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:40 pm

Central Region AAA Championships

1. Maggie Walker 7-0
2. Douglas Freeman 6-1

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Post by kamikaze » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:53 pm

The AA Region IV Tournament results...

Round 1
Blacksburg 300 d. Graham 90
Patrick Co. 180 d. Abingdon 130
Salem 170 d. Tunstall 135
Cave Spring 230 d. Tazewell 100

Round 2
Blacksburg 185 d. Patrick Co. 120
Cave Spring 220 d. Salem 105
Abingdon 170 d. Graham 130 [elim]
Tazewell 170 d. Tunstall 135 [elim]

Round 3
Blacksburg 200 d. Cave Spring 150
Abingdon 180 d. Salem 150 [elim]
Patrick Co. 180 d. Tazewell 160 [elim]

Round 4
Patrick Co. 195 d. Abingdon 75 [elim]

Round 5
Cave Spring 170 d. Patrick Co. 110 [elim]

Round 6
Cave Spring 165 d. Blacksburg 130

Round 7
Blacksburg 175 d. Cave Spring 140 [elim]

Blacksburg is the champion and Cave Spring is the runner-up. Both teams will advance onto states.
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Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:08 pm

Post superceded by what Pickrell has posted below.
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Post by STPickrell » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:16 pm

Double-elim pairings (these are in order, BTW)
West Point vs Rappahannock County
Radford vs Honaker
George Mason vs King & Queen
Lee vs Auburn

Chancellor vs Charlottesville
R.E. Lee-Staunton vs Cave Spring
Western Albemarle vs Poquoson
Blacksburg vs Heritage-Lynchburg

Maggie Walker vs Princess Anne
Thomas Jefferson vs George Washington
Hickory vs Freeman
Albemarle vs Woodson
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Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:26 pm

Curse you, Pickrell!

Edit: I pressed submit on this post at 1827. Why does it say 1802?

Edit edit: Figured it out. Apparently I can't be trusted with PHP.

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Post by pretzeldude92 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:18 pm

Region B held its tournament today, February 2nd. It was at Luray High School. Luray did an excellent job hosting the event.

I don't have full results.

1. George Mason
2. Rappahannock County
3. Wilson Memorial
4. Buffalo Gap
5. Appomattox County and Dan River
7. Central-Lunenburg and Randolph-Henry


Round 1:
George Mason 230, Wilson Memorial 110
Dan River over Randolph-Henry
Appomattox over Central
Rapp 230, Buffalo Gap 150

Round 2:
George Mason 240, Dan River 90
Rapp 240, App 170
Wilson Memorial over Randolph-Henry (elim)
Buffalo Gap over Central (elim)

Round 3:
Rapp 200, George Mason 195
Wilson Memorial over Appomattox (elim)
Buffalo Gap over Dan River (elim)

Round 4:
Wilson Memorial 175, Buffalo Gap 120 (elim)

Round 5:
George Mason 215, Wilson Memorial 155 (elim)

Round 6:
George Mason 200, Rapp 180 (Mason got the last 5 tossups)

Round 7:
George Mason 210, Rapp 170 (elim)

Mason and Rapp advance to states. We've played 10 times this year already. Mason has won 8. We've won 2.
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Post by mithokie » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:27 pm

Region C Results

Saturday February 2, 2008 @ Holston HS

Round 1
Parry McCluer d. Patrick Henry 165-160
Auburn d. James River 190-155

Round 2
Radford d. Parry McCluer 240-100
Auburn d. George Wythe 170-80

Round 3
Patrick Henry d. George Wythe 220-55 (George Wythe elim.)
Parry McCluer d. James River 215-120 (James River elim.)

Round 4
Patrick Henry d. Parry McCluer 180-120 (Parry McCluer elim.)
Radford d. Auburn 185-130

Round 5
Auburn d. Patrick Henry 175-110 (Patrick Henry elim.)

Round 6
Radford d. Auburn 175-170 (Auburn elim.)
(Radford answered the last 2 questions to avoid being forced to a Round 7).

Region C Champ: Radford
Region C Runner-up: Auburn

Radford and Auburn advance to the A State Championship.


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Post by pretzeldude92 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:05 am

In Region D, Lee County was first and Honaker took second.

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Post by STPickrell » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:40 pm

pretzeldude92 wrote:In Region D, Lee County was first and Honaker took second.
OK, just how far does your web of informants stretch? :)

Lee's region title represents a turnaround for a program that had gone two and out at the Group AA Highlands District tournament for as long as I can remember.

They used to play their in-county Group A rival, Thomas Walker, but as the TW coach put it, 'We stopped doing it because it got to be too ugly.'

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Post by STPickrell » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:15 pm

Coach Gouldthorpe @ Amherst Co. just told me

R.E. Lee (Staunton) is the #1 seed
Heritage (Lynchburg) is the #2 seed

from Region III.

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Post by STPickrell » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:23 pm

And from Region A, West Point returns after a 6 or 7 year absence. King and Queen, one of the smallest schools in Group A, advances as runner-up.

Washington & Lee 185, Northampton 130
Lancaster 210, Nandua 145
King and Queen 180, Windsor 150
West Point 305, Franklin 120

West Point 225, Washington & Lee 140
King and Queen 200, Lancaster 150
Franklin 190, Northampton 80 (elim)
Windsor 165, Nandua 125 (elim)

West Point 235, King and Queen 110
Washington & Lee 240, Windsor 120 (elim)
Franklin 150, Lancaster 115 (elim)

Washington & Lee 195, Franklin 120 (elim)

King and Queen 230, Washington & Lee 90 (elim)

West Point 205, King and Queen 140 (elim)

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Post by pretzeldude92 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:00 pm

OK, just how far does your web of informants stretch? :)
It's amazing how much you can learn from the internet and email, isn't it? Especially since, in emailing people, I can allow the guise of my mother's status as a librarian.

This Group A Tournament is going to be very competitive. 5 teams return from last year.

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Post by mithokie » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:57 pm

Is anyone going to make predictions for Saturday's State tournament? I am excited to take my team, and I am hopeful that we have a respectable showing. The Byko Ratings say we're heavy underdogs, but I don't think many of the teams at the A state are well-connected to the greater quizbowl world (in his ratings at least), so I am not putting much stock in that for this tournament.

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Post by pretzeldude92 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:10 pm

I don't like to make predictions, because they are often wrong. However, George Mason is very good, but not of the same caliber as last year. They could very well win a back-to-back championship. They aren't well-connected to the quizbowl world mostly because their team can never seem to get together to go to a tournament. They did finish 3rd in the small school division at NAQT Nationals last year...

I'm not sure at all what will happen. George Mason is averaging 238.8 ppm in VHSL. West Point, including the results from their website, is averaging 225 ppm. We here at Rapp are averaging 217.7 ppm in VHSL. Honaker is at 198.9 ppm. Lee is averaging 194.4 ppm in VHSL it would seem. (Those without Region D results) From the results in this thread, it would seem that Radford is at 192.9 ppm. King and Queen is averaging 178.3 ppm. Auburn is averaging 168.9 ppm in VHSL. This could be one way of comparing and predicting.

The Byko rankings have us ranked George Mason, West Point, Rapp, Lee, Radford, Honaker, King and Queen, and Auburn.

I will make my predictions for AA and AAA however.

1. R.E. Lee
2. Western Albemarle
3. Heritage-Lynchburg
4. Charlottesville
5. Blacksburg and Cave Spring
7. Chancellor and Poquoson

1. TJHSST
2. MLWGS
3. W.T. Woodson
4. Hickory
5. Princess Anne and Douglass Freeman
7. George Washington and Albemarle

However, I have a habit of being wrong.
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Post by kamikaze » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:50 pm

Hmm... good question. I think in the AA and A, everything is up for grabs. In AA, it seems to be fairly even. Charlottesville seems to be the odds on favorite, even though they aren't as strong as they were last year. Heritage isn't as strong as they were last year but definitely could throw their weight around. Blacksburg has the chain mail kid who's pretty strong but RE Lee seems to be back on the map and busting up some heads. I think we have a good shot at the title as well.

A is also up in the air (Auburn took a win or two from Radford, a perennial power in A) and could belong to anyone. Rappahannock was looking pretty good too at VCU, beating us twice pretty soundly. However, I'd hate to be playing against George Mason...

As for the AAA, I have to give the nod to my alma mater, TJHSST. We played TJ A and B at the VCU tourney this past weekend and we were absolutely stunned by TJ A. TJ A was just unconscious and racked up 555 pts; of the 15 they answered, 9 of them were powered. It was absolutely sick and beating Dorman A twice is enough for my vote. Maggie Walker will give them a good run for the money though.

I guess my final prediction is that I give each of us a 1 in 8 chance of taking the title. :P
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Post by pretzeldude92 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:11 pm

I wouldn't say we beat you guys soundly. In fact, your stats on the day are far better than ours, in terms of ppm and in terms of p/b. And I'll admit TJ A is very good, but when they played us, they negged 8 times. They still scored 350, I think. And you guys did beat TJ B, a pretty big accomplishment. I'd say you guys have a decent shot.

A 1 in 8 chance at a state title isn't so bad. :grin:

And, having played George Mason 19 times in my high school career (and I'm a junior), they cease to be intimidating. Our matches with them are fun.
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Post by 4throck » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:42 pm

I have to agree with the sentiment that A is up in the air. Radford was a young team last year, and although I haven't seen them play, I'm sure they've improved a lot. The two teams that I have seen play, GM and Rapp, are both very good this year. AJ (I think that's his name), is particularly amazing on Rapp. The GM team is definitely a step down from the one last year (I humbly admit), but when they're on form, they can blow a lot of people out of the water.

And pretzeldude had a good point about our team being rather dysfunctional about other tournaments. Actually, we're just dysfunctional in general. We had trouble getting our starters (including myself) to show up at the right place at the right time.

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Post by pretzeldude92 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:51 pm

4throck wrote:AJ (I think that's his name), is particularly amazing on Rapp.
I'm flattered. :wink:
4throck wrote:The two teams that I have seen play, GM and Rapp, are both very good this year. The GM team is definitely a step down from the one last year (I humbly admit), but when they're on form, they can blow a lot of people out of the water.
I completely agree. They beat us at George Mason 240-135. Of course, George Mason's team last year under the great Margaret beat us 330-100 at one match.
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Post by Byko » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:11 pm

AHS Eagles wrote:Is anyone going to make predictions for Saturday's State tournament? I am excited to take my team, and I am hopeful that we have a respectable showing. The Byko Ratings say we're heavy underdogs, but I don't think many of the teams at the A state are well-connected to the greater quizbowl world (in his ratings at least), so I am not putting much stock in that for this tournament.
I think what's hurting you guys right now is a combination of two things:

1. Currently, while none of the losses on your record is bad, the wins aren't very good, but that's partially because...
2. The wins in the Region C tournament should count for something more than they do, but I don't have any district results at all on George Wythe, James River, and Patrick Henry.

Having said all that, I still think, just from looking at numbers, that George Mason is the team to beat, though the fact that Rapp. Co. has played them close nearly every time this year and has handed them a pair of losses certainly tells me something. I know Radford has traditionally been good--I'd guess they should be higher than their current ranking, but I don't have any more data on them. As for West Point, maybe they're about right or perhaps a bit high--once I get caught up on about 15-20 other tournaments I need to enter, I could try to find their website with results. Or if someone were kind enough to e-mail a link to me, that would help too. :-)

I'm quite amused that my order exactly matches the points per game order--I promise you, my system doesn't use actual scores to determine anything!
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Re: The ultra-big VHSL results thread

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:53 pm

Some quick results from today (apologies if the scores aren't correct, I'm sure Shawn will add more when he gets home):

Group A: Radford defeated West Point, 170-165
Defending champ George Mason made an exit in the third round following losses to Lee High School and Rappahannock County.

Group AA: Charlottesville defeated Cave Spring 210-175
Cave Spring suffered an early loss to RE Lee - Staunton, but ran the loser's bracket, taking out Western Albermarle, Poquoson and Heritage before falling in the championship

Group AAA: TJ defeated Maggie Walker, I don't have the final score on hand.
Maggie Walker took a similar course to Cave Spring, taking an early loss to TJ in the second round before running the bottom bracket and coming back to the Championship match.
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Post by jbarnes112358 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:07 pm

KC&TheSunshineBand wrote: Group AAA: TJ defeated Maggie Walker, I don't have the final score on hand.
The final game was an exciting one. Maggie Walker held a small lead for most of the game, but TJ finished strong, winning on the final question with a final score of 225-215.

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Post by STPickrell » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:52 pm

A huge thank you to everyone that helped out, most of all my group coordinators and question reviewers were Marian Suter (A), Dan Goff (AA), and Adam Fine (AAA).

Group A
West Point 190, Rappahannock County 120
Radford 175, Honaker 95
George Mason 235, King & Queen 125
Lee 140, Auburn 95

Radford 140, West Point 110
Lee 140, George Mason 125
Rappahannock County 175, Honaker 110 (elim)
Auburn 105, King & Queen 90 (elim)

Radford 170, Lee 130
Rappahannock County 200, George Mason 150 (elim)
West Point 175, Auburn 90 (elim)

West Point 185, Rappahannock County 150 (elim)

West Point 170, Lee 120 (elim)

Radford 180, West Point 175 (elim)

Group AA:
Charlottesville 225, Chancellor 110
R.E. Le-Staunton 175, Cave Spring 125
Western Albemarle 185, Poquoson 125
Heritage-Lynchburg 175, Blacksburg 165

Charlottesville 170, R.E. Lee 135
Heritage 200, Western Albemarle 130
Cave Spring 155, Chancellor 140 (elim)
Poquoson 180, Blacksubrg 140 (elim)

Charlottesville 195, Heritage 180
Cave Spring 205, Western Albemarle 155 (elim)
Poquoson 225, R.E. Lee 175 (elim)

Cave Spring 190, Poquoson 180 (elim)

Cave Spring 205, Heritage 165 (elim)

Charlottesville 210, Cave Spring 175 (elim)

Group AAA:
I forgot to write down the first round scores in AAA. These are recollections.
Maggie Walker over Princess Anne
Thomas Jefferson over Albemarle
Hickory over Douglas Freeman
W.T. Woodson over George Washington

Thomas Jefferson 235, Maggie Walker 160
Hickory 185, W.T. Woodson 170
Princess Anne 195, Albemarle 115 (elim)
Douglas Freeman 175, George Washington 90 (elim)

Thomas Jefferson 235, Hickory 145
W.T. Woodson 240, Princess Anne 150 (elim)
Maggie Walker 275, Douglas Freeman 130 (elim)

Maggie Walker 210, W.T. Woodson 175 (elim)

Maggie Walker 260, Hickory 170 (elim)

Thomas Jefferson 225, Maggie Walker 215 (elim)
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Post by STPickrell » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:55 pm

BTW, VHSL States are cleared for discussion. I know a few of the vocabulary questions were somewhat ambiguous, and there were a couple of questions with typoes.

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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:01 pm

I thought the difficulty level fluctuated a lot... there were at least three literature questions that I would expect to hear only in a PACE packet, all three of which went unanswered in the games I observed.

I can't say I noticed any typos, but I agree that some of the vocab questions were incredibly ambiguous as clues given were not necessarily uniquely identifying...
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Post by mithokie » Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:53 am

I too thought the difficulty level fluctuated a lot. Overall, I thought that most of these questions were more difficult than the 07 and 06 state questions we had been practicing on. I am quite happy that we won a match, even if we did not go very far into the tournament. Congratulations to Radford, Charlottesville, and TJ on their state championships. There is a typo in the Group A results above for round 2....
Radford 140, West Point 110
Lee 140, George Mason 125
Radford 175, Honaker 110 (elim)
Auburn 105, King & Queen 90 (elim)
I believe the 3rd match there should be Rappahannock 175 Honaker 110 (elim). Shaun may want to edit that result.

We rode on the bus with Blacksburg HS, and I think I managed to convince their coach that a round-robin tournament would be a better way to go than double-elimination. When can we get that put up to a coaches vote again?

Also, I will never-ever eat at the College Delly again. We were told there would be a 20 minute wait and ended up waiting over an hour for our food. I hope that the on-campus food court will be open next time Auburn makes a trip to William & Mary for a tournament, because I don't think the 3 restraunts we were directed to were able to handle 24 teams in one hour.
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Re: The ultra-big VHSL results thread

Post by kamikaze » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:31 pm

First, congrats to TJ, Charlottesville and Radford... it was good to see old students of mine from the Summer Governor School, even if they were instrumental in our defeat. :smile:

I share the same sentiments as my colleague Matt here... the difficulty seemed all over the place but maybe really easy + really hard = average. The team seemed to think that the earlier morning questions were really wild but the packets seemed to settle down as the day progressed. Did anyone noticed that?

I also agree with a round robin format of some sort with maybe a playoff system. I don't think it's very fair for some SW schools to travel 8 hours, spend a load of money of rooms and food, just for a tournament that guarantees you two matches. I think a hybrid of a double-elim with some sort of mini-round robin would be awesome by giving everybody more rounds to play and determine a more accurate final standing.

Lunch was also a mess... the hour originally scheduled was way too short and we weren't informed of the extension in time when we left. I, too, will not eat at the College Delly again as my kids ordered a pizza shortly after we arrived and by the time we had to be back at the round (about 40 minutes later), they had just put the pizza in the oven (BTW, Matt, how was the pizza? The kids were asking). We had to run back, grab some food from the vending machines, and nearly forfeited our round with Poquoson (and all apologies to Poquoson for having you wait for us :oops: ). Half of my kids didn't even have any lunch until the whole tournament was over. I really hope that more alternatives can be provided or a longer break for lunch can be scheduled.

But despite that, I have to say the moderators were pretty good this year. The questions were fine in all other regards and the tournament was really nice and professional. Congrats to all the teams that made it there. Hope to see you all of there next year!
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Re: The ultra-big VHSL results thread

Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:36 pm

kamikaze wrote:

I also agree with a round robin format of some sort with maybe a playoff system. I don't think it's very fair for some SW schools to travel 8 hours, spend a load of money of rooms and food, just for a tournament that guarantees you two matches. I think a hybrid of a double-elim with some sort of mini-round robin would be awesome by giving everybody more rounds to play and determine a more accurate final standing.
Agreed. We had a farily short trip from Richmond, but some teams traveled a long way to end up not playing much at all. Also, in this format, it's possible to win states by winning only four games. Having multiple byes may be a relief to some teams, but I'm willing to bet it's really boring to others. It can also affect momentum. A round robin seems much fairer.
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