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Post by rchschem » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:36 am

Overheard at GSAC:

Q: (something about a work)..."...the titular animal..."

A: The Telltale Heart

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Post by kCobain911 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:24 am

at UTC,



"This work was not an epistolary..."

answer: Pamela


what was the answer to the aforementioned question?

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Post by vcuEvan » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:26 am

I believe it was The Black Cat.

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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:37 am

I don't remember specifics, but I know last night on packet 2 from IS-64 I negged all but like 5 tossups.
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Post by Golran » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:23 pm

Today at practice one of the questions was something like:
Which one of Snow White's 7 dwarves...
My friend buzzed in "Grouchy". The whole room burst into laughter.

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Post by Nine-Tenths Ideas » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:25 pm

"This president saw a treaty that gave the US parts of California, New Mexi-"
Me, clearly not paying attention: "The Treaty of Guadeloupe Hildago."
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Post by Gautam » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:31 pm

Given Answer: Golda Meier
Real Answer: Baroness from GI Joe link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroness_(G.I._Joe)

I was completely pwned by Jewish sounding clues. :(
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Post by The Infanta » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:42 am

At Yale back in March, the question mentioned "this man who influenced Ghandi," but I misheard it as "this man whom Ghandi influenced."

Neg: Martin Luther King, Jr.

Answer: Leo Tolstoy

I got lots of heat for that one.
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Post by Tegan » Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:03 pm

this form of a capella singing, common in the Far East ....

correct: mantra
incorrect: Gregorian Chant

I'm sure I have a detail screwed up, but it was clearly after saying "common in the Far East"

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Post by First Chairman » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:09 pm

GDS Ben Cooper:

Since it came on an NAQT packet, I can't disclose more than I can about the circumstances... but to say the least, the captain of the team did not choose a suggestion of "Humphrey Bogart". (It actually wouldn't count as a true neg or "wrong answer", but it was funny nonetheless.)
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Post by vig180 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:30 pm

My Answer: John Brown
Correct Answer: Jim Henson

Still not sure where that came from, although I think it had something to do with mention of a coffin.

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Post by brownboy79 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:30 pm

My answer: Chris Brown

Answer: James Brown

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Post by Stephen Colbert » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:20 pm

2005 SAS Brain Strain (not exactly a neg, but still memorable):

The 2004 movie "Finding Neverland", was based in part on the life of author J.M. Barrie, the creator of what character who "refused to grow up"?

My player's answer: Michael Jackson
Correct Answer: Peter Pan

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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:25 am

I don't neg often...but Greg's racked up some great ones and it's unlikely he'll come into this forum.
At CSI II: MASH for Catch-22 after Major Major Major Major...he didn't even know why he said it.
At practice early this year, due to hearing the word land instead of gland followed by "islets of Langerhans"... "Denmark" for "pancreas"

My worst neg ever was probably at Ocean Lakes last year...Barry Bonds for Andruw Jones. I buzzed by accident and knew it was a baseball player, so I picked one at random. The sad thing is I would've gotten it eventually.

...I had two in a row at W&M's college tournament...."mouse" for "dog" and "Athena" for "Hera," both in cases where I knew the right answer but failed to say it.

Maybe I do neg a lot...although I think it's just that my few negs are bad...
For example, The Sound and the Fury for Gone with the Wind, buzzing off Dilsey.
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Post by cornfused » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:24 pm

MLWGS-Gir wrote: MASH for Catch-22 after Major Major Major Major
Bad neg.
MLWGS-Gir wrote: due to hearing the word land instead of gland followed by "islets of Langerhans"... "Denmark" for "pancreas"
Quality bad neg.
MLWGS-Gir wrote: Bonds, mouse, Athena, Sound and the Fury
Not bad negs, just negs.

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Post by cornfused » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:32 pm

Proposed criteria for a true bad neg (must meet one or more:)
1) wrong type of answer (person, place, thing)
i.e. Denmark for pancreas (great neg, by the way)
2) one of a group, you name something not in the group
i.e. Grouchy the dwarf; name this South American country-BUZZ-Spain
3) confusing two similar-sounding but very different answers
i.e. Scrooge being visited by the ghost of Bob Marley; President George Washington Carver
4) just plain wrong (especially applicable when pop culture is involved)
i.e. Arthur Dent for Buzz Lightyear; Golda Meier for the Baroness
5) given answer in question
i.e. name this work by the author of White Fang, Jack London-BUZZ-White Fang
6) correct answer is gettable by average 6-year-old
i.e. Saturn, the third planet from the sun; Marlowe, the author of Hamlet

What these do not include are knowledge errors: saying Tegucigalpa is the capital of Nicaragua or that Benjy Compson is from Light in August.

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Post by rjaguar3 » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:48 pm

From IHSA regionals '07...

Moderator: "...name this painting by John Constable" (BUZZ)
Teammate: "Gainsborough!"

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Post by the return of AHAN » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:28 pm

cornfused wrote:Proposed criteria for a true bad neg (must meet one or more:)
1) wrong type of answer (person, place, thing)
i.e. Denmark for pancreas (great neg, by the way)
2) one of a group, you name something not in the group
i.e. Grouchy the dwarf; name this South American country-BUZZ-Spain
4) just plain wrong (especially applicable when pop culture is involved)
i.e. Arthur Dent for Buzz Lightyear; Golda Meier for the Baroness
So categorize this neg from a middle schooler I coached in 2000;
"Accounting for inflation, name this richest American to ever have ever lived (BUZZ)"
GIVEN: King Tut
CORRECT: John D. Rockefeller

Is that 1, 2, or 4?
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Post by The Atom Strikes! » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:37 pm

I actually made that Langerhans-Denmark neg once.

Another habit: I had a brief phase in which whenever I heard the less-common names of a river, I would buzz in and say "Bhramaputra" to the enduring anger of my teammates
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Post by ragnarok2012 » Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:41 am

something about adopting a child..

my teammate : "Angelina Jolie"
answer : Pearl S. Buck


Not hearing the year clue or nationality of said child

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Post by JohnAndSlation » Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:11 am

BarringtonJP wrote:
cornfused wrote:Proposed criteria for a true bad neg (must meet one or more:)
1) wrong type of answer (person, place, thing)
i.e. Denmark for pancreas (great neg, by the way)
2) one of a group, you name something not in the group
i.e. Grouchy the dwarf; name this South American country-BUZZ-Spain
4) just plain wrong (especially applicable when pop culture is involved)
i.e. Arthur Dent for Buzz Lightyear; Golda Meier for the Baroness
So categorize this neg from a middle schooler I coached in 2000;
"Accounting for inflation, name this richest American to ever have ever lived (BUZZ)"
GIVEN: King Tut
CORRECT: John D. Rockefeller

Is that 1, 2, or 4?
I'd call that a 2, but it's in pretty decent running for a 4 as well.
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Post by rchschem » Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:53 am

cornfused wrote:Proposed criteria for a true bad neg (must meet one or more:)
Thank you.

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Post by Haaaaaaaarry Whiiiiiiiiiite » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:17 pm

Probably my worst was answering Chris Ferguson for Craig Ferguson. I now hate poker.

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Post by cornfused » Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:18 pm

Could've been worse... you could've answered "Jesus" Ferguson for Jesus Christ...

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Post by Nine-Tenths Ideas » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:59 pm

At every tournament we go to, it is my teammates duty to buzz in during a Frank Lloyd Wright question before I do. If they don't, I will ring in and say "Frank Gehry." Even after the gimme clue is given for Lloyd Wright, I will say Gehry.
Example:
"... early 20th century architect, who designed the Falling Water-"
Me: "Gehry."
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Post by Canadajin » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:32 pm

A teammate:

Response: "Little Red Riding Hood"

Answer: "Pope Joan"

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Post by AKKOLADE » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:50 pm

Correct: Quidditch

Me: "Solomon Grundy" (as in the Batman villain)
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Post by the return of AHAN » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:18 am

Mid-Suburban League frosh/soph tourney:

Identify the salty fluid excreted by the lacrimal glands (BUZZ)

GIVEN: Brine

CORRECT: Tears

Fortunately the game was in hand and we could laugh about it!
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Post by Nine-Tenths Ideas » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:49 pm

From TJ:
From the Harry Potter universe, the most famous of these is Marius Black-
My Teammate: Wizard!


That lost us a game.
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Post by Siverus Snape » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:50 pm

Is the answer Squib?

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Post by AndyShootsAndyScores » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:24 pm

SIVster716 wrote:Is the answer Squib?
More than likely, though I would think that Filch or Merope Gaunt would be more famous than Marius Black.

[/undeniable proof of dorkdom]
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:31 pm

AndyShootsAndyScores wrote:
SIVster716 wrote:Is the answer Squib?
More than likely, though I would think that Filch or Merope Gaunt would be more famous than Marius Black.

[/undeniable proof of dorkdom]
Yeah, it was squib. Someone on the team we were playing negged and said "animagus" off the close relationships with animals bit.
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Post by Sir Thopas » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:19 pm

MLWGS-Gir wrote:
AndyShootsAndyScores wrote:
SIVster716 wrote:Is the answer Squib?
More than likely, though I would think that Filch or Merope Gaunt would be more famous than Marius Black.

[/undeniable proof of dorkdom]
Yeah, it was squib. Someone on the team we were playing negged and said "animagus" off the close relationships with animals bit.
I buzzed thinking that until I heard "Arabella" sneak in as I buzzed, so I lucked out there.

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Post by cdcarter » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:54 pm

Helen of Troy for Jackie Kennedy

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Post by wowitsquinthaha » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:26 pm

this was on some old VHSL set

Q: Although he could leg press 2000 pounds.....

A: Kim Jong Il (Neg)

Real A: Oral Roberts...
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Post by ok_quizbowl » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:35 pm

Two of the better ones I've heard recently from OSSAA events:

[words words words] African-American civil rights leader...
RIGHT: Martin Luther King, Jr.
TEAM SAID: George Wallace

[words words words] recently deceased Italian operatic tenor.
RIGHT: Luciano Pavarotti
TEAM SAID: Ray Charles

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Post by cornfused » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:22 pm

wowitsquinthaha wrote:this was on some old VHSL set

Q: Although he could leg press 2000 pounds.....

A: Kim Jong Il (Neg)

Real A: Oral Roberts...
Pat Robertson.

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Post by No Sollositing On Premise » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:14 pm

I think I mentioned this in the older thread; My favorite neg of all time, from PACE 2002:

Moderator: something about "northern regions"
Dan Wright: Succubi?
Myself, Mike Wright, and Alex Levy: !?
Eventual Answer: Silverback Gorillas
Dan Wright: I thought they said nether regions!

Yeah... we weren't the best B team ever until two years later....
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Post by ieppler » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:22 pm

Not mine, but funny anyway. On the 2005 HSNCT podcast, TJ A vs. Bentley:
"To the Lighthouse" for "the flop"
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Post by Stat Boy » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:43 am

MLWGS-Gir wrote:Yeah, it was squib. Someone on the team we were playing negged and said "animagus" off the close relationships with animals bit.
That someone being me. And I heard Puma negged at the same place with same answer--not the first time that's happened.
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Post by cornfused » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:14 pm

Hopper wrote:Not mine, but funny anyway. On the 2005 HSNCT podcast, TJ A vs. Bentley:
"To the Lighthouse" for "the flop"
If that had been me, I would've been angry. That wasn't a bad neg at all, it was a hose.

The question: "The first part of it is called the window..." BUZZ - To the Lighthouse.

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Post by ieppler » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:37 pm

Haha, it would probably help if I actually listened to the question rather than going by the reaction of the reader and the audience. You're right, it was a hose.
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Post by the return of AHAN » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:27 pm

...exact height of the crossbar on a set of American football goalposts."

GIVEN: 100 feet :shock:

(I can only guess he thought it meant the height of the uprights.)
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Post by Golran » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:48 pm

"... this work by Martin Luther"
Given: 99 Theses

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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:20 pm

I'm not sure how bad of a neg some of these actually are (like 99 theses).
For what its worth the football thing sounds like it was a horrible question.
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Post by cdcarter » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:29 pm

Deesy Does It wrote:I'm not sure how bad of a neg some of these actually are (like 99 theses).
For what its worth the football thing sounds like it was a horrible question.
Quoted for truth. I have a feeling most bad negs are either made up, or not that bad. There are a few "good" ones that slip through the cracks, but some of these are just too outrageous.

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Post by the return of AHAN » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:20 pm

Agreed on the 99 Theses. Now if the answer had been "I Have a Dream"... THAT would've been quality. :lol:
And I coach teams at high school and middle school so I get plenty of chances to hear some memorable ones. And I leave out the ones where kids are simply taking WAGs as time is ticking away in an otherwise silent room. Those aren't funny. I think the proper criteria for a bad neg were clearly delineated by Greg P. last month.
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Post by The Atom Strikes! » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:54 pm

dinoian wrote:"... this work by Martin Luther"
Given: 99 Theses
But a b*tch ain't one?
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Post by Siverus Snape » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:11 am

Nostradamus for Jules Verne

I suppose that technically, given the information in the question up to that point (basically that he was a French novelist and predicted all sorts of technology in his works), the answer is slightly (just slightly) less of a brain fart. It still is funny, though.

Another one, given independently by a member on each the A and B team at a fresh-soph tournament:

Jesus for Herod

Both buzzed on "King of the Jews".

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Post by rchschem » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:31 am

From the Furniture City Classic (NAQT IS-70):

_____________ for ______________

_____________ for ______________

and my favorite,

Q: "...__________________..."
A: _______________

Trust me. These will be funny someday.

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