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Overheard at GSAC:
Q: (something about a work)..."...the titular animal..."
A: The Telltale Heart
Q: (something about a work)..."...the titular animal..."
A: The Telltale Heart
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I don't remember specifics, but I know last night on packet 2 from IS-64 I negged all but like 5 tossups.
Charlie Dees, North Kansas City HS '08
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Given Answer: Golda Meier
Real Answer: Baroness from GI Joe link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroness_(G.I._Joe)
I was completely pwned by Jewish sounding clues. :(
Real Answer: Baroness from GI Joe link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroness_(G.I._Joe)
I was completely pwned by Jewish sounding clues. :(
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Since it came on an NAQT packet, I can't disclose more than I can about the circumstances... but to say the least, the captain of the team did not choose a suggestion of "Humphrey Bogart". (It actually wouldn't count as a true neg or "wrong answer", but it was funny nonetheless.)
Since it came on an NAQT packet, I can't disclose more than I can about the circumstances... but to say the least, the captain of the team did not choose a suggestion of "Humphrey Bogart". (It actually wouldn't count as a true neg or "wrong answer", but it was funny nonetheless.)
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I don't neg often...but Greg's racked up some great ones and it's unlikely he'll come into this forum.
At CSI II: MASH for Catch-22 after Major Major Major Major...he didn't even know why he said it.
At practice early this year, due to hearing the word land instead of gland followed by "islets of Langerhans"... "Denmark" for "pancreas"
My worst neg ever was probably at Ocean Lakes last year...Barry Bonds for Andruw Jones. I buzzed by accident and knew it was a baseball player, so I picked one at random. The sad thing is I would've gotten it eventually.
...I had two in a row at W&M's college tournament...."mouse" for "dog" and "Athena" for "Hera," both in cases where I knew the right answer but failed to say it.
Maybe I do neg a lot...although I think it's just that my few negs are bad...
For example, The Sound and the Fury for Gone with the Wind, buzzing off Dilsey.
At CSI II: MASH for Catch-22 after Major Major Major Major...he didn't even know why he said it.
At practice early this year, due to hearing the word land instead of gland followed by "islets of Langerhans"... "Denmark" for "pancreas"
My worst neg ever was probably at Ocean Lakes last year...Barry Bonds for Andruw Jones. I buzzed by accident and knew it was a baseball player, so I picked one at random. The sad thing is I would've gotten it eventually.
...I had two in a row at W&M's college tournament...."mouse" for "dog" and "Athena" for "Hera," both in cases where I knew the right answer but failed to say it.
Maybe I do neg a lot...although I think it's just that my few negs are bad...
For example, The Sound and the Fury for Gone with the Wind, buzzing off Dilsey.
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Proposed criteria for a true bad neg (must meet one or more:)
1) wrong type of answer (person, place, thing)
i.e. Denmark for pancreas (great neg, by the way)
2) one of a group, you name something not in the group
i.e. Grouchy the dwarf; name this South American country-BUZZ-Spain
3) confusing two similar-sounding but very different answers
i.e. Scrooge being visited by the ghost of Bob Marley; President George Washington Carver
4) just plain wrong (especially applicable when pop culture is involved)
i.e. Arthur Dent for Buzz Lightyear; Golda Meier for the Baroness
5) given answer in question
i.e. name this work by the author of White Fang, Jack London-BUZZ-White Fang
6) correct answer is gettable by average 6-year-old
i.e. Saturn, the third planet from the sun; Marlowe, the author of Hamlet
What these do not include are knowledge errors: saying Tegucigalpa is the capital of Nicaragua or that Benjy Compson is from Light in August.
1) wrong type of answer (person, place, thing)
i.e. Denmark for pancreas (great neg, by the way)
2) one of a group, you name something not in the group
i.e. Grouchy the dwarf; name this South American country-BUZZ-Spain
3) confusing two similar-sounding but very different answers
i.e. Scrooge being visited by the ghost of Bob Marley; President George Washington Carver
4) just plain wrong (especially applicable when pop culture is involved)
i.e. Arthur Dent for Buzz Lightyear; Golda Meier for the Baroness
5) given answer in question
i.e. name this work by the author of White Fang, Jack London-BUZZ-White Fang
6) correct answer is gettable by average 6-year-old
i.e. Saturn, the third planet from the sun; Marlowe, the author of Hamlet
What these do not include are knowledge errors: saying Tegucigalpa is the capital of Nicaragua or that Benjy Compson is from Light in August.
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So categorize this neg from a middle schooler I coached in 2000;cornfused wrote:Proposed criteria for a true bad neg (must meet one or more:)
1) wrong type of answer (person, place, thing)
i.e. Denmark for pancreas (great neg, by the way)
2) one of a group, you name something not in the group
i.e. Grouchy the dwarf; name this South American country-BUZZ-Spain
4) just plain wrong (especially applicable when pop culture is involved)
i.e. Arthur Dent for Buzz Lightyear; Golda Meier for the Baroness
"Accounting for inflation, name this richest American to ever have ever lived (BUZZ)"
GIVEN: King Tut
CORRECT: John D. Rockefeller
Is that 1, 2, or 4?
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I'd call that a 2, but it's in pretty decent running for a 4 as well.BarringtonJP wrote:So categorize this neg from a middle schooler I coached in 2000;cornfused wrote:Proposed criteria for a true bad neg (must meet one or more:)
1) wrong type of answer (person, place, thing)
i.e. Denmark for pancreas (great neg, by the way)
2) one of a group, you name something not in the group
i.e. Grouchy the dwarf; name this South American country-BUZZ-Spain
4) just plain wrong (especially applicable when pop culture is involved)
i.e. Arthur Dent for Buzz Lightyear; Golda Meier for the Baroness
"Accounting for inflation, name this richest American to ever have ever lived (BUZZ)"
GIVEN: King Tut
CORRECT: John D. Rockefeller
Is that 1, 2, or 4?
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At every tournament we go to, it is my teammates duty to buzz in during a Frank Lloyd Wright question before I do. If they don't, I will ring in and say "Frank Gehry." Even after the gimme clue is given for Lloyd Wright, I will say Gehry.
Example:
"... early 20th century architect, who designed the Falling Water-"
Me: "Gehry."
Example:
"... early 20th century architect, who designed the Falling Water-"
Me: "Gehry."
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Never Gonna Play Again
Correct: Quidditch
Me: "Solomon Grundy" (as in the Batman villain)
Me: "Solomon Grundy" (as in the Batman villain)
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Mid-Suburban League frosh/soph tourney:
Identify the salty fluid excreted by the lacrimal glands (BUZZ)
GIVEN: Brine
CORRECT: Tears
Fortunately the game was in hand and we could laugh about it!
Identify the salty fluid excreted by the lacrimal glands (BUZZ)
GIVEN: Brine
CORRECT: Tears
Fortunately the game was in hand and we could laugh about it!
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Yeah, it was squib. Someone on the team we were playing negged and said "animagus" off the close relationships with animals bit.AndyShootsAndyScores wrote:More than likely, though I would think that Filch or Merope Gaunt would be more famous than Marius Black.SIVster716 wrote:Is the answer Squib?
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I buzzed thinking that until I heard "Arabella" sneak in as I buzzed, so I lucked out there.MLWGS-Gir wrote:Yeah, it was squib. Someone on the team we were playing negged and said "animagus" off the close relationships with animals bit.AndyShootsAndyScores wrote:More than likely, though I would think that Filch or Merope Gaunt would be more famous than Marius Black.SIVster716 wrote:Is the answer Squib?
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I think I mentioned this in the older thread; My favorite neg of all time, from PACE 2002:
Moderator: something about "northern regions"
Dan Wright: Succubi?
Myself, Mike Wright, and Alex Levy: !?
Eventual Answer: Silverback Gorillas
Dan Wright: I thought they said nether regions!
Yeah... we weren't the best B team ever until two years later....
Moderator: something about "northern regions"
Dan Wright: Succubi?
Myself, Mike Wright, and Alex Levy: !?
Eventual Answer: Silverback Gorillas
Dan Wright: I thought they said nether regions!
Yeah... we weren't the best B team ever until two years later....
Mike Sollosi, University of Virginia
That someone being me. And I heard Puma negged at the same place with same answer--not the first time that's happened.MLWGS-Gir wrote:Yeah, it was squib. Someone on the team we were playing negged and said "animagus" off the close relationships with animals bit.
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...exact height of the crossbar on a set of American football goalposts."
GIVEN: 100 feet
(I can only guess he thought it meant the height of the uprights.)
GIVEN: 100 feet
(I can only guess he thought it meant the height of the uprights.)
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I'm not sure how bad of a neg some of these actually are (like 99 theses).
For what its worth the football thing sounds like it was a horrible question.
For what its worth the football thing sounds like it was a horrible question.
Charlie Dees, North Kansas City HS '08
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"At one TJ tournament the neg prize was the Hampshire College ultimate frisbee team (nude) calender featuring one Evan Silberman. In retrospect that could have been a disaster." - Harry White
"I won't say more because I know some of you parse everything I say." - Jeremy Gibbs
"At one TJ tournament the neg prize was the Hampshire College ultimate frisbee team (nude) calender featuring one Evan Silberman. In retrospect that could have been a disaster." - Harry White
Quoted for truth. I have a feeling most bad negs are either made up, or not that bad. There are a few "good" ones that slip through the cracks, but some of these are just too outrageous.Deesy Does It wrote:I'm not sure how bad of a neg some of these actually are (like 99 theses).
For what its worth the football thing sounds like it was a horrible question.
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Agreed on the 99 Theses. Now if the answer had been "I Have a Dream"... THAT would've been quality.
And I coach teams at high school and middle school so I get plenty of chances to hear some memorable ones. And I leave out the ones where kids are simply taking WAGs as time is ticking away in an otherwise silent room. Those aren't funny. I think the proper criteria for a bad neg were clearly delineated by Greg P. last month.
And I coach teams at high school and middle school so I get plenty of chances to hear some memorable ones. And I leave out the ones where kids are simply taking WAGs as time is ticking away in an otherwise silent room. Those aren't funny. I think the proper criteria for a bad neg were clearly delineated by Greg P. last month.
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Nostradamus for Jules Verne
I suppose that technically, given the information in the question up to that point (basically that he was a French novelist and predicted all sorts of technology in his works), the answer is slightly (just slightly) less of a brain fart. It still is funny, though.
Another one, given independently by a member on each the A and B team at a fresh-soph tournament:
Jesus for Herod
Both buzzed on "King of the Jews".
I suppose that technically, given the information in the question up to that point (basically that he was a French novelist and predicted all sorts of technology in his works), the answer is slightly (just slightly) less of a brain fart. It still is funny, though.
Another one, given independently by a member on each the A and B team at a fresh-soph tournament:
Jesus for Herod
Both buzzed on "King of the Jews".