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It's from a newsletter available to IHSSBCA members only, and as far as I know the poll results don't get posted on the website. I suspect it's okay, but wanted to cover my butt.

Crossposted from the Masonics thread: Masonic State Results!

Champions: Carbondale
2nd Place: Auburn
3rd Place: Peoria Christian
4th Place: Warrensburg Latham
Consolation Champions: New Trier
Consolation Runnersup: Wheaton Warrenville South

jonah wrote:It's from a newsletter available to IHSSBCA members only, and as far as I know the poll results don't get posted on the website. I suspect it's okay, but wanted to cover my butt.

Past final poll results are in the QBWiki, and have been for about a year, without any issues having been brought up ..... I am sure that, for what they are worth, the poll results will not be a breach of proprietary info.

Congrats to Carbondale, who sailed through the field yesterday. We got creamed by WWS in our first match, then had a big comeback to narrowly beat them in the Consolation Final. Auburn beat WWS on the last question in their match.

Posting the poll is OK. It should be on our website and hopefully will be soon--it is now but hasn't been updated since September. In general, posting newsletter articles here is not OK.

Okay, then, to complete the posting of the poll:
AA: Auburn, Carbondale, Loyola, New Trier, Stevenson, WWS, Springfield, Buffalo Grove, Fremd, IMSA
A: Petersburg PORTA, Macomb, Byron, Winnebago, Latin, Peoria Christian, Fairfield, Warrensburg-Latham, Normal University, Marissa and Sterling Newman (tie)
Also receiving votes: AA: St. Viator, Homewood-Flossmoor, Lasalle-Peru, Moline, Naperville Central, Naperville North, OPRF, Maine South, Quincy Senior; A: Orton, Peoria Heights, Seneca, Sherrard

I have begun to coordinate the tournament calendar for 2009-2010. If you are planning to host a tournament (especially a new tournament) send me a message at [email protected]. We will publish a tentative calendar in the May issue of Scholastic Visions.

Especially welcome are frosh/soph tournaments (or frosh/soph divisions of varsity tournaments) and any tournaments in central and southern Illinois.

Let it be known that on the 7th day of March, 2009, the first scholastic bowl match question to ever reference the IHSA State Series of Bass Fishing was asked at the Streator Northlawn Knowledge Power Tournament for middle schoolers. Credit (or blame) for this pioneering act goes to DogEnd Productions of Streator. I'm assuming there'll be a prize of some sort sent by Tom Egan shortly.

Woody Paige wrote:Let it be known that on the 7th day of March, 2009, the first scholastic bowl match question to ever reference the IHSA State Series of Bass Fishing was asked at the Streator Northlawn Knowledge Power Tournament for middle schoolers. Credit (or blame) for this pioneering act goes to DogEnd Productions of Streator. I'm assuming there'll be a prize of some sort sent by Tom Egan shortly.

We'll have to add that to our "Things to study for the IHSA state tournament", I think we'll put if after the Graduated Driver's license program, and before the types of screwdrivers.

Woody Paige wrote:Bass Fishing was asked at the Streator Northlawn Knowledge Power Tournament for middle schoolers.

I did recently get a trophy from a return address in Streator, but it was topped with the back end of a donkey. It is one of the nicer, non-threatening e-mail I have received from the area.

The IHSA State Pools are up in the ScoreZone. If the top seeds win their Sectionals...

Class A Pool 1: Warrensburg-Latham, Byron, Effingham Saint Anthony, Litchfield
Class A Pool 2: Petersburg PORTA, Metropolis Massac County, Chicago Latin, Macomb

Class AA Pool 1: Auburn, Hinsdale Central, Stevenson, Homewood-Flossmoor
Class AA Pool 2: Wheaton Warrenville South, New Trier, Carbondale, Springfield

(I am not predicting that the top seeds will all win their Sectionals.)

On that topic, i wish good luck to everyone tomorrow.

Shcool wrote:The IHSA State Pools are up in the ScoreZone. If the top seeds win their Sectionals...

Class A Pool 1: Warrensburg-Latham, Byron, Effingham Saint Anthony, Litchfield
Class A Pool 2: Petersburg PORTA, Metropolis Massac County, Chicago Latin, Macomb

Class AA Pool 1: Auburn, Hinsdale Central, Stevenson, Homewood-Flossmoor
Class AA Pool 2: Wheaton Warrenville South, New Trier, Carbondale, Springfield

(I am not predicting that the top seeds will all win their Sectionals.)

That is surprisingly close to being fair. I'm impressed. One of Springfield or WWS could be swapped with one of H-F or Hinsdale Central, but, hey, whatever.

hayyyyyy guys so liek i wrote sum totes awesome tossups 4 regionals today that i want 2 share with u.

interrobang - umm wikipedia says this is a nonstandard punctuation mark so i thought itd be cool for a tossup. with grammar questions, you gotta go big or go home!!!

carapace - on three, spell a turtle shell. one, two, three, C-A-R-A-P-A-C-E duhhhhhhhh

white triangle - omg my FAVORITE category... drivers ed!!!!! what's a yield sign on the pavement???? A WHITE TRIANGLE THAT'S WHAT

recant - i <3 vocabulary

kaskaskia river - who loves illinois geography? i do. and so do u.

ampullae of lorenzini - i mean, cmon, who doesn't know/love shark organs? shit, i shoulda saved that for sectionals its so good

pappus's centroid theorem - i don't know why this went dead. i've known that since liek 4ever

myocardial infarction - no, NOT HEART ATTACK OR CARDIAC ARREST. hahahaahahah i tricked youuuuuuuuu

township - what's a subset of counties in illinois?!?!?!? townships, har har har. i cant believe you didnt know that. i'm awesome.

squeegee - i creamed myself when i thought of this. SPELL A COOL WORD WITH 4 Es. what a question.

surd - okay, you got me here. this is too easy for high school math.

charles mound - we live in a flat state!!! how could you now know the highest goddamn peakkkkkkkk???????

SEE YOU ON SATURDAY

LOVE,

IHSA

<3

ihsa regionals wrote:township - what's a subset of counties in illinois?!?!?!? townships, har har har. i cant believe you didnt know that. i'm awesome.

You laugh, but I've actually spent quite a bit of class time this semester discussing the variation in local units of governance across the US, and their implication for regional planning. I'd love to see a good tossup on townships.

If you've suddenly got nothing to do this Saturday, please check out our college novice tournament, which you can get a ton of information on here. We're still accepting registrations and high school teams are certainly welcome.

MaS

PS:

Theory Of The Leisure Flask wrote:

ihsa regionals wrote:township - what's a subset of counties in illinois?!?!?!? townships, har har har. i cant believe you didnt know that. i'm awesome.

You laugh, but I've actually spent quite a bit of class time this semester discussing the variation in local units of governance across the US, and their implication for regional planning. I'd love to see a good tossup on townships.

Someone has missed the point here.

Captain Sinico wrote:

Theory Of The Leisure Flask wrote:

ihsa regionals wrote:township - what's a subset of counties in illinois?!?!?!? townships, har har har. i cant believe you didnt know that. i'm awesome.

You laugh, but I've actually spent quite a bit of class time this semester discussing the variation in local units of governance across the US, and their implication for regional planning. I'd love to see a good tossup on townships.

Someone has missed the point here.

MaS

I never said that IHSA actually managed to write a good, relevant tossup on townships; in fact I'd be shocked if they did.

ihsa regionals wrote: surd - okay, you got me here. this is too easy for high school math.

Man, and I will forever take crap for MY lack of a difficulty scale.

You, Chris White, are continuing to miss the point. It's very, very difficult or even impossible to write a good tossup on townships; even supposing it's possible, regularly producing good questions on zany topics like that is far, far beyond any sane estimate of the IHSA consortium's abilities. IHSA would be better served with its writers creating down-the-middle, normal questions of high quality, rather than on whatever wacky zoning-based topics you (or they) happen to be interested in.

MaS

Also, whose idea was it to count literature in the LA subject field. All of Monday night I had night mares of a round ending up 2/2 spelling, 2/2 grammar, and 2/2 literature. We all know that the distribution of the tournament needs to change, but even the sub distros present opportunities for disastrous question spreads.

Captain Sinico wrote:You, Chris White, are continuing to miss the point. It's very, very difficult or even impossible to write a good tossup on townships; even supposing it's possible, regularly producing good questions on zany topics like that is far, far beyond any sane estimate of the IHSA consortium's abilities. IHSA would be better served with its writers creating down-the-middle, normal questions of high quality, rather than on whatever wacky zoning-based topics you (or they) happen to be interested in.

MaS

I never claimed it wasn't a niche interest; I never said such a question was actually a good idea, especially at the high school level; I fail to see the big disagreement here.

Then what in the hell was the point of your original post?

MaS

ihsa regionals wrote: white triangle - omg my FAVORITE category... drivers ed!!!!! what's a yield sign on the pavement???? A WHITE TRIANGLE THAT'S WHAT

I'll be honest. Of all of the toss-ups I have ever heard playing scholastic bowl, this one makes the list of the worst three I have ever heard. Not to mention, I went out driving today to try to find there aforementioned shapes, and much to my chagrin, I found none. The question writer must have been from Safety Village or something.

ihsa regionals wrote: surd - okay, you got me here. this is too easy for high school math.

Surd? More like AB-surd.

BGSO wrote:Also, whose idea was it to count literature in the LA subject field.

It was a compromise ..... originally, language arts was an entire category ..... mandatory 2/2 per match! There were those who wanted it banished, but there were too many people who wanted it saved. The compromise was to shuffle it in to literature, with some of us hoping it would go away or at the very least rear its head less often. In some years it makes less of an appearance than in others. This eventually allowed us to open up fine arts to a larger distribution and reduce trash.

I moderated for three matches involving what I suppose would amount to four non-"elite" teams. The language arts questions were not answered. So, since "elite teams" don't want them, and non-elite teams can't seem to answer them, it makes me wonder what sub-set of coaches/officials/players really want them to stay?

The drivers ed question went dead in every room. Again, if the non-elite can't answer, and the elite don't want them, then why are there people in the AdCo who hold on to teaching "someone" a lesson by retaining these categories? My answer to my own rhetorical question is coaches who think they know what is best for kids, rather than listening to some sound judgements from adults (young and old).

A heads up for all you people who like to be on top of announcements:

All-State Honorees will be announced at 12:00AM CST tonight.

mlaird wrote:A heads up for all you people who like to be on top of announcements:

All-State Honorees will be announced at 12:00AM CST tonight.

O RLY?

In serious business, best of luck to all teams at Sectionals. May the questions be no more than a minor hindrance, and may good quizbowl decide Sectional champions. A reminder, from past years - Round 2 is hard and usually full of curveballs. Teams score much lower in Round 2 of Sectionals than 1 and 3. This isn't based on me seeing the questions - because I haven't yet - just basing this off of the last 5 years (at least) of upsets all over Round 2.

And St. Viator - enjoy MCMNT. I think you'll have the best day of us all. :)

So yeah, my bad guys. Here it is at midnight like... Hawaiian time?

Class A All-State First Team
Aaron Letterly
Alex Smith
Cullen Seaton
Deidre Hong
Evan Daigle
Justin Brooks
Kurt Fowler
Marcus Smith
Sam Stowell
Tucker Lynn

Class A All-State Second Team
Aaron Staley
Collin Wolf
Derek Lessard
Jeremy Edison
Kathleen Bock
Peter York
Sean Kilker
Seth Yates
Tara Cooksey
Trevor Magnotti

Class AA All-State First Team
Andrew Deveau
Ashok Poozhikunnel
Ben Cohen
Carl Butt
Jerry Chang
Joe Ahmad
Michael Jiang
Siva Sundaram
Tony Cao
Zach Blumenfeld

Class AA All-State Second Team
Alex Cash
Arjun Puranik
Calvin Quilty
Daniel Hannan
David Garb
Gabriel Orlet
Jack Glerum
Jamie Kelly
Marlee Labroo
Paul Botros

I'll update with schools and years this evening, but I figure you guys know most of them.

Congratulations, Class A voters! You're a bunch of idiots! Greg Dzuricsko gets All-Tournament at Huskie Bowl ahead of no less than 3 members of the Class AA All-State team, and that apparently isn't enough.

If this is a result of him not being in the top X for All-Sectional to get considered for All-State, modify "Class A voters" to "Seneca Sectional voters."

EDIT: After having talked with an All-State voter and hearing the other side of the story, I retract my statement that Class A voters are "a bunch of idiots." I disagree with how the voting went, but the vitriol and rage has been soothed.

I'm leaving the post up because, hey, editing out posts isn't cool.

mlaird wrote:And St. Viator - enjoy MCMNT. I think you'll have the best day of us all. :)

3-7, with two wins againts Missouri State, including one shutout, and a come-from-behind victory against the UIUC undergrads. :-D And I got to eat Chipotle.

Jeff, you really need to get out more.

David Riley wrote:Jeff, you really need to get out more.

I haven't been able to show my face in public since Loyburn. Everything will be fine...until I start having flashbacks of Siva and Zahed dismantling my pride.

There there, its ok...plenty of people get savaged by Auburn and go on to live long and happy lives. I should know...10 losses my seinor year-7 to Auburn.

I will be on AM 720 Thursday at 9:15 AM CDT. www.wgnradio.com

Nice! What will you be discussing?

Shcool wrote:I will be on AM 720 Thursday at 9:15 AM CDT. http://www.wgnradio.com

Serious question: Does WGN just have you permanently penciled in to appear annually, the Thursday before the scholastic bowl state finals? Obviously, you must be doing a great job if they keep calling you back!

I am off for the 1st 15 minutes of your broadcast so I'll be listening in!

Can someone record this from the WGN Radio feed using software like MP3myMP3 for Windows or Wiretap for Mac? I'd do it, but I strongly desire to not be awake then.

Most of the program will consist of me reading questions for the hosts/producers. They've decided that they like having me on, so all I have to do is tell them I want to go on, and they'll put me on when I want (as long as it doesn't conflict with Sex Thursday, which starts at 11:00, and as long as I don't ask them often). It's pretty cool, because it is a huge audience. I've asked them if they wanted some students on or a coach from a team that actually won its Sectional, but they like the continuity of having the same person each year.

Shcool wrote:Sex Thursday

What.

jonah wrote:

Shcool wrote:Sex Thursday

What.

Not a big Kathy and Judy listener, Jonah?

cornfused wrote:

jonah wrote:

Shcool wrote:Sex Thursday

What.

Not a big Kathy and Judy listener, Jonah?

I heard Reinstein's bit last year and that's the only time I've ever listened to them. I just looked Sex Thursday up on their website, but they were really vague ("Throw in a Barney tape to distract the kids" was all they really said). Please explain.

jonah wrote:

cornfused wrote:

jonah wrote:

Shcool wrote:Sex Thursday

What.

Not a big Kathy and Judy listener, Jonah?

I heard Reinstein's bit last year and that's the only time I've ever listened to them. I just looked Sex Thursday up on their website, but they were really vague ("Throw in a Barney tape to distract the kids" was all they really said). Please explain.

My Grandmother has WGN on constantly, and I shudder to think that she is listening in to an old ladies version of Loveline.

Also, recording the interview probably won't be necessary, as it'll probably be up on their "podcast" within the week afterwards. I have last year's interview downloaded if anyone is interested in that.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ch ... 9783.story

We now know that Scholastic Bowl is not the only activity where the IHSA enforces stupid uniform rules. Hopefully, backlash from this will make them realize how stupid these rules really are.

One would hope.

They got mad at us for wearing do-rags.

JackGlerum wrote:They got mad at us for wearing do-rags.

They should have ... just because you are Captain Jack doesn't mean the rest of the team has to buy into the fantasy of tweens.


Savvy?

You know, I almost forgot about the beauty of Egan-Glerum-bashing.

Beginning in 2009-10, the IHSSBCA Steering Committee will have Student Liaisons for the entire year. Two high school students and one college student will be full voting members of the committee, beginning at our meeting in August. Students need to apply for the positions by May 1, and they will be selected by May 22.

If selected, Liaisons must become IHSSBCA members and attend our Annual Meeting, which is currently scheduled for Sunday, January 31. Liaisons will be full voting members of the Steering Committee, including email votes and two online meetings, one in November and another in May.

To apply to become a Liaison, send an email to [email protected] and [email protected] with the following information:
Name, School, Year In School
Experiences with Scholastic Bowl and/or Leadership (at most half a page)
Ideas for improving Illinois High School Scholastic Bowl (at most half a page)

Students who will be in high school next year are eligible to apply for High School Liaison, and students who will be in college next year are eligible to apply for College Liaison. For the College Liaison, preference will be given for both experience with Illinois High School Scholastic Bowl and Collegiate Quizbowl.

Shcool wrote:Beginning in 2009-10, the IHSSBCA Steering Committee will have Student Liaisons for the entire year.

Which, if I heard correctly, was approved over stringent objections from some coaches who felt it was inappropriate for "kids" to have a voice. Kudos to the IHSSBCA for not following that path.

Now if only they would have a moderator liason