Bad Negs Again
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I negged the MO tossup on cycads with pandas right before the FTP.
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During practice today...
Given: mollusks
Answer: rabbits
Given: mollusks
Answer: rabbits
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Given: Libido
Answer: Albedo
Answer: Albedo
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This was probably the best neg I have ever seen someone make.Jeremy Gibbs Free Energy wrote:I negged the MO tossup on cycads with pandas right before the FTP.
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I have mixed the two many a time.wwellington wrote:Given: Libido
Answer: Albedo
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I was just looking at this packet... what a quality neg.Jeremy Gibbs Free Energy wrote:I negged the MO tossup on cycads with pandas right before the FTP.
What was buzzed on: "but are now threatened due to their slow reproductive rate and habitat loss."
What came just before that: "some species have coralloid roots that contain symbiotic bacteria which help in nitrogen fixation. Thought to have evolved from the Medullosales due to their manoxylic wood and radiospermic seeds, they were ubiquitous from the late Permian through the Jurassic periods,"
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at UCI 2 years ago
"Lord of the...uhh...i mean...the ONE RING!"
mod: "neg 5"
"Lord of the...uhh...i mean...the ONE RING!"
mod: "neg 5"
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This wasn't from the NAQT thing today, was it?Kaisuopai wrote:Quote edited!!!!!!sdakjfl;asjkf
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It was. I thought that if no context were attached, it could be taken as a generic neg on a generic topic, though...guess I was wrong. D:
I'm gonna be banned for a week, huh? >>;
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I'm gonna be banned for a week, huh? >>;
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...just edit it out. now.Kaisuopai wrote:It was. I thought that if no context were attached, it could be taken as a generic neg on a generic topic, though...guess I was wrong. D:
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Just a day for this one.Kaisuopai wrote:It was. I thought that if no context were attached, it could be taken as a generic neg on a generic topic, though...guess I was wrong. D:
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...this, at least, is definitely from last year. D:
Reader: ...Hans Holbein the Younger created one of these, while another used diagonal perspective...
Teammate: Library catalog system!
Answer: The Last Supper
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Reader: ...Hans Holbein the Younger created one of these, while another used diagonal perspective...
Teammate: Library catalog system!
Answer: The Last Supper
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Given: European Union
Answer: Kwanzaa
Yessssss
Answer: Kwanzaa
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I remember in high school there was one match where my teammate went on a negging frenzy. I only remember two (this was from our local league play, so the questions suck):
-The question was something which the Russian Empire notably lacked (I forget what the answer was).
GIVEN ANSWER: "Mountains."
-Then it was a question to which the answer was "state constitutions." It gave Alabama as an example as "it has the longest."
GIVEN ANSWER: "Shoreline."
Man, our league questions sucked. I'm not sure if they were QU or not, but I remember two other examples being "What was the name of the song the band played as the Titanic sank?" and "Who won the 1960 World Series?"
-The question was something which the Russian Empire notably lacked (I forget what the answer was).
GIVEN ANSWER: "Mountains."
-Then it was a question to which the answer was "state constitutions." It gave Alabama as an example as "it has the longest."
GIVEN ANSWER: "Shoreline."
Man, our league questions sucked. I'm not sure if they were QU or not, but I remember two other examples being "What was the name of the song the band played as the Titanic sank?" and "Who won the 1960 World Series?"
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Not exactly a neg, but still funny(IS-58, I think)
Coach:blah blah blah humans have 12 pairs of these-
Me: ribs?
Coach: correct.
unnamed player: Oh. I was going to say eyes.
Coach:blah blah blah humans have 12 pairs of these-
Me: ribs?
Coach: correct.
unnamed player: Oh. I was going to say eyes.
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From IS-71A (I think) @ LIFT 2007
Mod: It brought back the assault rifle-
Me: Halo
Mod: Prompt
Me: Halo 2
Other Team: Halo 3
Mod: It brought back the assault rifle-
Me: Halo
Mod: Prompt
Me: Halo 2
Other Team: Halo 3
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I'm not sure I get that one.
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He gave what I guess was considered a partial answer, was prompted, and gave an incorrect answer.Hardwood Flooring wrote:I'm not sure I get that one.
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To Mike Cheyne:
Oh, come on, now--any Barbara Stanwyck fan would know it's "Nearer, my God, to Thee"
Oh, come on, now--any Barbara Stanwyck fan would know it's "Nearer, my God, to Thee"
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As a Clifton Webb fan, I knew the answer as well. Good call.
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More like Bad Understanding of Full Title Rules Again?dinoian wrote:From IS-71A (I think) @ LIFT 2007
Mod: It brought back the assault rifle-
Me: Halo
Mod: Prompt
Me: Halo 2
Other Team: Halo 3
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Bad understanding of "bad negs" too. Negging with "Halo 2" for "Halo 3" is actually the least wrong you can be and still be wrong! It's not funny at all!Captain Scipio wrote:More like Bad Understanding of Full Title Rules Again?
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No, I can confirm that NAQT will expressly say "prompt" on partial answer for the various Halo games.
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This does make some sense, as it can be taken to constitute the name of the series.GARBAGE DAY 425 wrote:No, I can confirm that NAQT will expressly say "prompt" on partial answer for the various Halo games.
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Also, Halo is not the official title of even the first Halo, as it is actually Halo: Combat Evolved. This begs the question: should Halo 1 be an acceptable answer for Halo: CE?everyday847 wrote:This does make some sense, as it can be taken to constitute the name of the series.GARBAGE DAY 425 wrote:No, I can confirm that NAQT will expressly say "prompt" on partial answer for the various Halo games.
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Subtitles are never required.
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No, no; the title of the game is Halo 2. NAQT's (or anyone else's) misunderstanding of the exact title rule is irrelevant; a prompt on Halo for Halo 2 is just as wrong as a prompt on Waverley for Ivanhoe (title of series does not deserve a prompt when a specific work in the series with a different title is clearly required) or a prompt on Walden for Walden 2 (title of sequel does not deserve a prompt on the title of prequel.) Please don't lose sight of the rules because OMG VIDEOGAMES!
Also, subtitles (what comes after a colon in a title) are never required, and you know this, man.
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Also, subtitles (what comes after a colon in a title) are never required, and you know this, man.
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I considered it a bad neg because the second in a series cannot reintroduce something.
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Yes it can?
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Said feature would have to be taken away first for it to be reintroduced, right? That would require at least 3 different versions of something.Captain Scipio wrote:Yes it can?
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I guess the misunderstanding came from me thinking that the other team was also ruled incorrect. I was pretty sure there wasn't a Halo 4...
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Reading Pace '07 at my house, one of my teammates...
...homing abilities *buzz* pigeons? ...found in the bacteria...
correct answer: introns
...homing abilities *buzz* pigeons? ...found in the bacteria...
correct answer: introns
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No. A thousand times no. Even if your tortured definition of the word "reintroduce" held, this still isn't right (it could be reintroduced from elsewhere, for example.)AndyShootsAndyScores wrote:Said feature would have to be taken away first for it to be reintroduced, right?
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For the assault rifle, a specific weapon in a specific series in this case, to have been "brought back," it would had to have been taken away at some point. Since the series in question has only 3 games now and at the time the question was written, there would have been no plausible way for that tossup to hold up if the assault rifle had been in Halo 2. I realize now that "reintroduce" was probably the wrong word choice, but "brought back" has only one interpretation.Captain Scipio wrote:No. A thousand times no. Even if your tortured definition of the word "reintroduce" held, this still isn't right (it could be reintroduced from elsewhere, for example.)AndyShootsAndyScores wrote:Said feature would have to be taken away first for it to be reintroduced, right?
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Actually reintroduce works better than brought back for the point you're trying to make.
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"Brought back" can mean "from the original."AndyShootsAndyScores wrote: For the assault rifle, a specific weapon in a specific series in this case, to have been "brought back," it would had to have been taken away at some point. Since the series in question has only 3 games now and at the time the question was written, there would have been no plausible way for that tossup to hold up if the assault rifle had been in Halo 2. I realize now that "reintroduce" was probably the wrong word choice, but "brought back" has only one interpretation.
As in things from an original are "brought back" for a sequel. They "brought Michael Caine back" to play Alfred in The Dark Knight. Get it?
Stupid face.
Edited for using the swears in the high school section.
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Today at PBL mind madness (an IM tournament held by FBLA-PBL, and the questions will never be reused) Tirth negged with "The Declaration of Independence" for "The Communist Manifesto" after the question quoted "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles".
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At UCI last year during a tiebreaker round, somebody from Tustin gave, "Mahira Gandhi" for "Indira Gandhi"
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I remember the Halo question. I was also prompted on "Halo" but I got it right.
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I think I power-vulched that...FishyFreshman wrote:I remember the Halo question. I was also prompted on "Halo" but I got it right.
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It was at one point approximated to be 99/70
Buzz: √(1)
Answer: √(2)
Buzz: √(1)
Answer: √(2)
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Question (something along these lines):
To whom was Norman Schwarzkopf referring when he said this: "He is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational arts, nor is he a tactician, nor is he a general, nor is he a soldier"?
Given: George H.W. Bush
Answer: Saddam Hussein
To whom was Norman Schwarzkopf referring when he said this: "He is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational arts, nor is he a tactician, nor is he a general, nor is he a soldier"?
Given: George H.W. Bush
Answer: Saddam Hussein
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In practice today on some old NAQT set:
"For ten points name this ballet written by Englebert Humperdinck in which-BUZZ!"
"The Nutcracker"
Answer: Hansel and Gretel
*facepalm*
"For ten points name this ballet written by Englebert Humperdinck in which-BUZZ!"
"The Nutcracker"
Answer: Hansel and Gretel
*facepalm*
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*sigh* I remember the Halo tossup.
Arcadia A vs. Arcadia B,
Derek, from our team A, barely beat me to the buzz.
and then he rubbed it in for the next month.
During practice two years ago (from an old IS packet from 05-06 school year)
blah blah blah...
me: *buzz* p-p-p-p-p-pola (damned stuttering problem)
reader: stalling, neg five
one year later, same tossup
blah blah blah...
me: *buzz* ZATHURA!
reader: neg five
this year
blah...
me: *buzz* POLAR EXPRESS!!!
reader: ZOMGWTF HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?!?!?!?
...
me: REDEMPTION!!!
Arcadia A vs. Arcadia B,
Derek, from our team A, barely beat me to the buzz.
and then he rubbed it in for the next month.
During practice two years ago (from an old IS packet from 05-06 school year)
blah blah blah...
me: *buzz* p-p-p-p-p-pola (damned stuttering problem)
reader: stalling, neg five
one year later, same tossup
blah blah blah...
me: *buzz* ZATHURA!
reader: neg five
this year
blah...
me: *buzz* POLAR EXPRESS!!!
reader: ZOMGWTF HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?!?!?!?
...
me: REDEMPTION!!!
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Given: Necromancer
Answer: The Miracle Worker
Explanation: Necromancer is a mistaken version of Neuromancer. Person who gave answer ignored all other clues, heard "William Gibson" and buzzed.
Answer: The Miracle Worker
Explanation: Necromancer is a mistaken version of Neuromancer. Person who gave answer ignored all other clues, heard "William Gibson" and buzzed.
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Re: Bad Negs Again
"Mayonnaise is an example of it" *BUZZ*..."Condiments?"... neg 5!Correct Answer: Emulsion!
Trey Taraila
Caesar Rodney 2010
University of Delaware 2014
Caesar Rodney 2010
University of Delaware 2014
- DumbJaques
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Re: Bad Negs Again
I think a zombie-themed update of the Miracle Worker is just what's needed in this all too unforgiving world.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE
- Maxwell Sniffingwell
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Re: Bad Negs Again
Nice buzz.ImaPC wrote:"Mayonnaise is an example of it" *BUZZ*..."Condiments?"
Greg Peterson
Northwestern University '18
Lawrence University '11
Maine South HS '07
"a decent player" - Mike Cheyne
Northwestern University '18
Lawrence University '11
Maine South HS '07
"a decent player" - Mike Cheyne