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Re: Bad Negs Again

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Post by Deviant Insider » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:41 am

Q: It can be computed by evaluating the Gregory-Leibniz series ...
A: Infinity

Q: This play by Agatha Christie...
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by cornfused » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:14 am

Q: This priest who angered Martin Luther...
A: Hentzel.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by quizbowllee » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:50 pm

cornfused wrote:Q: This priest who angered Martin Luther...
A: Hentzel.
LOL. :lol:

I literally "laughed out loud" at this one.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by Cheynem » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:24 pm

Not THAT awful a neg, but it sticks in my head more than six years later from high school, when I said "Henry Fielding" wrote Moll Flanders instead of Defoe. This was in a game where my HS team was trying to pull a major upset and we ended up blowing a lead and losing on the last question.

Once it becomes cleared, I have a host of awful negs from IO and RMPFest (plus a couple dumb ones from TRASH Regionals) to list.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by ... and the chaos of Mexican modernity » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:19 pm

From IS-73A today at practice.

Me reading: "He later commited suicide after seeing his son Johnathan who was dead before him...
Teammate: Buzz

Given: Nagamasa Azai
Answer: Saul
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:12 am

Bakery, State, and Utopia wrote:Given: Nagamasa Azai
That would be an exciting tossup answer!
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Post by theMoMA » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:09 pm

I think Ryan's "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" from the Impossible Speedchecks qualifies here.
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Post by naturalistic phallacy » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:27 pm

theMoMA wrote:I think Ryan's "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" from the Impossible Speedchecks qualifies here.
That's got to be one of the best I've ever heard of.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by pray for elves » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:30 pm

William Afham wrote:
theMoMA wrote:I think Ryan's "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" from the Impossible Speedchecks qualifies here.
That's got to be one of the best I've ever heard of.
What was the actual answer?
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by SepiaOfficinalis » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:15 pm

Wollstonecraft for "diodes" at ACF Fall, most of the way through the question, too. 15 points to whomever can infer the abortive lateral that produced this.
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Post by theMoMA » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:03 pm

Hilarius Bookbinder wrote:
William Afham wrote:
theMoMA wrote:I think Ryan's "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" from the Impossible Speedchecks qualifies here.
That's got to be one of the best I've ever heard of.
What was the actual answer?
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:17 pm

That is pretty fantastic.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by warpoet » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:05 pm

That's amazing
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Post by cvdwightw » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:33 am

Another great one from Impossible Speedcheck:

Brian: Ron Burgundy
Right: Olaf (from "I Sing of Olaf Glad and Big")
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by powerplant » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:56 am

From ACF Fall

Wrong: Stonewall Jackson
Right: Moses
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by warpoet » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:55 pm

powerplant wrote:From ACF Fall

Wrong: Stonewall Jackson
Right: Moses
How did that happen?
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:02 pm

warpoet wrote:
powerplant wrote:From ACF Fall

Wrong: Stonewall Jackson
Right: Moses
How did that happen?
I'm willing to bet he buzzed on the clue about having to hold his arms in the air to win a battle. Stonewall Jackson only felt a need to hold his arms in the air because he was crazy.
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Post by TheCzarMan » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:23 pm

My teammate

Given: Vikings
Answer: Green Mountain Boys
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by powerplant » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:48 pm

Ukonvasara wrote:
warpoet wrote:
powerplant wrote:From ACF Fall

Wrong: Stonewall Jackson
Right: Moses
How did that happen?
I'm willing to bet he buzzed on the clue about having to hold his arms in the air to win a battle. Stonewall Jackson only felt a need to hold his arms in the air because he was crazy.
That is what happened. I didn't mention that in the first post because I think it makes it less funny.
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Post by Auroni » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:21 pm

From IO: I negged "Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" with "Babi Yar"
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Post by at your pleasure » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:23 pm

How did you manage to do that?
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Post by powerplant » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:56 pm

blah blah blah known as the rubber people

*BUZZ*

Trojans?

Of course, it was the Olmecs.
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Post by Sonic the Hedgehog and the Fox » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:36 pm

"A channel has a depth of 10 fathoms"

BUZZ

"MARK TWAIN!" The capitalization is very important in the way it was said.

Answer: 60 feet
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Sonic the Hedgehog and the Fox wrote:"A channel has a depth of 10 fathoms"

BUZZ

"MARK TWAIN!" The capitalization is very important in the way it was said.

Answer: 60 feet
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Sonic the Hedgehog and the Fox wrote:"A channel has a depth of 10 fathoms"

BUZZ

"MARK TWAIN!" The capitalization is very important in the way it was said.

Answer: 60 feet
Who wrote these questions? Don't all computation questions usually have "paper and pencil ready" or some variant at the beginning.
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Post by Sonic the Hedgehog and the Fox » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:03 pm

swwFCqb wrote:
Sonic the Hedgehog and the Fox wrote:"A channel has a depth of 10 fathoms"

BUZZ

"MARK TWAIN!" The capitalization is very important in the way it was said.

Answer: 60 feet
Who wrote these questions? Don't all computation questions usually have "paper and pencil ready" or some variant at the beginning.
Triple Q. The only place at which I know them to be used is the University of South Carolina. They're...funny, some of them.

Not funny haha. Funny weird.
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Post by quizbowllee » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:05 pm

Today at practice:

Answer given: Connecticut Yankee
Correct Answer: Satan
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Post by Golran » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:39 pm

Sonic the Hedgehog and the Fox wrote:
swwFCqb wrote:
Sonic the Hedgehog and the Fox wrote:"A channel has a depth of 10 fathoms"

BUZZ

"MARK TWAIN!" The capitalization is very important in the way it was said.

Answer: 60 feet
Who wrote these questions? Don't all computation questions usually have "paper and pencil ready" or some variant at the beginning.
Triple Q. The only place at which I know them to be used is the University of South Carolina. They're...funny, some of them.

Not funny haha. Funny weird.
You want funny questions, try this one from Great Auk:

Complete this epitaph: Here lies Jim the atheist. All dressed up and nowhere to ____.
Answer: go.

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Post by BobGHHS » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:04 am

You want funny questions, try this one from Great Auk:

Complete this epitaph: Here lies Jim the atheist. All dressed up and nowhere to ____.
Answer: go.

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Post by BuzzerZen » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:32 pm

BobGHHS wrote:It's amazing that no matter how overused those bad Auk puns are, they're still funny.
No, no they are not. TJ didn't win 7 KMOs in a row by reading puns. We skipped them with extreme prejudice.
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From ACF Fall

Wrong Answer: The Prince

Right Answer: Stravinsky
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Post by ExcessStrausses » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:15 pm

At Practice:

Answer Given: Simón Bolivar
Correct Given: Simone de Beauvoir
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by warpoet » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:44 pm

During practice a while back on an old NAQT set, I said Seven Men Against Thebes :cry: *facepalm*
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Post by Sir Thopas » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:34 pm

warpoet wrote:During practice a while back on an old NAQT set, I said Seven Men Against Thebes :cry: *facepalm*
Whoever was reading clearly didn't understand the concept of substantive adjectives.
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Post by cornfused » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:55 pm

Sir Thopas wrote:
warpoet wrote:During practice a while back on an old NAQT set, I said Seven Men Against Thebes :cry: *facepalm*
Whoever was reading clearly didn't understand the concept of substantive adjectives.
Yeah. That's correct, isn't it?
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Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:04 pm

cornfused wrote:
Sir Thopas wrote:
warpoet wrote:During practice a while back on an old NAQT set, I said Seven Men Against Thebes :cry: *facepalm*
Whoever was reading clearly didn't understand the concept of substantive adjectives.
Yeah. That's correct, isn't it?
Depends on the langauge, but in Greek, I'm going to say yes.
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everyday847 wrote:
cornfused wrote:
Sir Thopas wrote:
warpoet wrote:During practice a while back on an old NAQT set, I said Seven Men Against Thebes :cry: *facepalm*
Whoever was reading clearly didn't understand the concept of substantive adjectives.
Yeah. That's correct, isn't it?
Depends on the langauge, but in Greek, I'm going to say yes.
I mean, it's a translation. Greek certainly uses substantives.
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Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:14 pm

Sir Thopas wrote:
everyday847 wrote: Depends on the langauge, but in Greek, I'm going to say yes.
I mean, it's a translation. Greek certainly uses substantives.
Argh inability to type. But yeah.
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Post by warpoet » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:17 am

I dunno, I think it was one of those "Do Not Accept..." things. I've always heard it as Seven Against Thebes
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Post by at your pleasure » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:30 am

I would be inclined to be nice about that, but I'm more supportive of the "Be liberal about translations" school of thought.
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Post by Sir Thopas » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:30 am

warpoet wrote:I dunno, I think it was one of those "Do Not Accept..." things.
I mean, like, the packet is objectively wrong, then.
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Post by warpoet » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:39 am

Oh, I just thought it was a dumb mistake on my part
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Post by Sir Thopas » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:41 am

warpoet wrote:Oh, I just thought it was a dumb mistake on my part
It was a misstep, but one that's nevertheless clearly a correct response. TAKE THAT, NAQT.
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Post by yoda4554 » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:16 am

Sir Thopas wrote:
warpoet wrote:Oh, I just thought it was a dumb mistake on my part
It was a misstep, but one that's nevertheless clearly a correct response. TAKE THAT, NAQT.
I believe that standard ACF (don't recall NAQT) rules say that if you answer in English for a title that is originally in a foreign language, you have to use a form in which that title has actually been translated and published and not just a plausible reading. Since I get exactly one Google hit for "Seven Men Against Thebes" (i.e., this thread), I think that response would generally be deemed incorrect.
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Post by BuzzerZen » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:08 am

yoda4554 wrote:I believe that standard ACF (don't recall NAQT) rules say that if you answer in English for a title that is originally in a foreign language, you have to use a form in which that title has actually been translated and published and not just a plausible reading. Since I get exactly one Google hit for "Seven Men Against Thebes" (i.e., this thread), I think that response would generally be deemed incorrect.
ACF Rules wrote:G3. When the title of a work not originally written in English is the answer, titles in the original language are generally provided in the packet. Those titles in the original language are acceptable, as are idiomatic or literal English translations and any titles under which a translation of the work has been published in English.
This seems to imply that "Seven Men Against Thebes" would be ACFceptable. G3 goes on to note, however, that "players are encouraged to give non-esoteric or traditional English translations, or the original-language title, in order to avoid complicated protests over translated answers". The rule is presumably intended to avoid punishing players who have only read a work in the original language and haven't the foggiest idea what it's called in English, so when Andy Watkins buzzes on a No Exit tossup, thinks Huis clos, and says "Closed Door", he won't get negged. Or else he will get negged, file a protest, and have it resolved in his favor.
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Post by Mechanical Beasts » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:14 pm

I don't think I've ever said anything but Huis clos, mostly because "huis" was last used out of a literary context to mean "door" about a billion years ago, so it wasn't until I googled it about ten seconds ago that I confirmed that it means "door." And "clore" is weird and irregular (clos is the past participle) and everyone says "fermer." I don't know what twist of the imagination makes that into In Camera. But I never really trusted that the French title and the English translation were even the same thing until now.
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Post by cdcarter » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:19 pm

everyday847 wrote:I don't think I've ever said anything but Huis clos, mostly because "huis" was last used out of a literary context to mean "door" about a billion years ago, so it wasn't until I googled it about ten seconds ago that I confirmed that it means "door." And "clore" is weird and irregular (clos is the past participle) and everyone says "fermer." I don't know what twist of the imagination makes that into In Camera. But I never really trusted that the French title and the English translation were even the same thing until now.
"Behind closed doors" as an idiomatic translation of Huis Clos turns into In Camera pretty quickly...
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Post by Mechanical Beasts » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:27 pm

cdcarter wrote:"Behind closed doors" as an idiomatic translation of Huis Clos turns into In Camera pretty quickly...
OH. Hello, Latin.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by cdcarter » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:56 pm

everyday847 wrote:
cdcarter wrote:"Behind closed doors" as an idiomatic translation of Huis Clos turns into In Camera pretty quickly...
OH. Hello, Latin.
:grin: Good job, Andy.
Christian Carter
Minneapolis South High School '09 | Emerson College '13
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