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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:23 pm

Just call the teams what they are. Charter does it right... in the tournament they hosted, they let their freshmen and sophomores play (well, freshmen at least) with the names Charter E, F, and G. Makes sense to me, no arguing there.

Anyway, i just think that if games are played between two legitimate quizbowl teams, they should be entered. Isn't that what David's site says in the first place?
What games are included in your data?

Any quiz bowl game featuring two teams competing against each other, provided that I know about it, is included. Of course, I don't have knowledge of every match that takes place in the entire country, so your assistance in passing this information on to me is always appreciated.
So, either that has to be amended, or all games should count as much as any other.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:10 am

Hm, I think that's reasonable, mostly because the whole "half of our C team, plus an A teamer and an F teamer" isn't restricted to frosh/soph tournaments; the whole "just call us team B" phenomenon happens in the rankings already.

The issue Byko raised about JV circuits being, in some situations, isolated from the varsity circuits and creating unrealistic rankings--that's the issue, not (I don't think) what Charlie raised.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Deviant Insider » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:38 am

If Byko counted Frosh/Soph results and got all the results from Illinois Frosh/Soph tournaments, Stevenson Frosh/Soph would be the #1 team in the country, beating out Charter A. By only counting Varsity results, the rankings are kept somewhat reasonable. I hope the rankings will be kept somewhat reasonable.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Byko » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:10 pm

Shcool wrote:If Byko counted Frosh/Soph results and got all the results from Illinois Frosh/Soph tournaments, Stevenson Frosh/Soph would be the #1 team in the country, beating out Charter A. By only counting Varsity results, the rankings are kept somewhat reasonable. I hope the rankings will be kept somewhat reasonable.
That's my intent. And that probably makes the point as best as anyone can.

If there are JV teams who happen to play against varsity competition in varsity tournaments, they'll be counted in these ratings. It's made even worse in some places where one of a team's best players may be both on the JV and Varsity A teams and, throughout the season, plays on both of them. It's a problem I see as intractable that I simply don't want to attempt to solve myself. I know my limits.

And for the record, there are some edits that should be coming to the FAQ--that is one of them, so thanks for drawing my attention to it.
cvdwightw wrote:Just to clarify something: the Baby Anteater tournament on 1/31 was for JV teams and new/rebuilding programs. Accordingly:

University, North Hollywood, Los Alamitos, and Capistrano Valley are all new or rebuilding programs and their "A" and "B" teams should be labeled accordingly. I think Orange Lutheran is "A" as well, and Torrey Pines B and Rancho Alamitos A are close enough to their previous tournament lineups, I think, so those are fine.

"Edison" to my knowledge contained one A team member and 3 B team members and should probably be labeled as "Edison B." Arcadia A and B should be Arcadia B and C, I believe. I have no idea which Rancho Bernardo is which, as they moved people around, but I'd guess A-C at this tournament should really be B-D in the rankings. "La Jolla A" at this tournament was the exact same team as "La Jolla B" at UCLA, so there should really be a "La Jolla C" as well, though that team apparently contained about 1/3 of the scoring of La Jolla B at Caltech. "Santa Monica" at this tournament should be "Santa Monica B" as well.

Hopefully this will make some of the California rankings less screwy, as Rancho Bernardo/Arcadia/La Jolla/Edison/Santa Monica/Torrey Pines shouldn't really be rewarded/penalized (whichever the case may be) for games in which the vast majority of their A team did not participate.
That explains a lot--thanks. I had thought the screwiness was just from it being an A set, but that description helps things immensely.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by erkifish26 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:55 pm

Right, right. Okey doke thank you.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by dxdtdemon » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:56 pm

At Ohio State's From Here to Eternity tournament, the JV teams played on the same questions as the varsity. Also, the teams in that division were kept with the numbering from the varsity; i.e. if a team had two varsity and two JV teams, the varsity would be 1 and 2, and the JV would be 3 and 4.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:16 am

Question.

If we know of other results from tournaments (i.e. consolation rounds etc.) that were never posted or compiled, are they allowable in terms of adding them to the records/ratings of teams here?

For instance, the consolation rounds that i was told would be completed "sometime" for the Ben Cooper Invitational: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=5896. If i know the scores of some (read: i guess just CR's) consolation round matches, may they be entered? Or due to the apathy of the tournament hosts, are we only allowed to enter games if all applicable and associated ones can be entered and not just selected ones that i have written down?
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Joshua Rutsky » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:05 am

Caesar Rodney HS wrote:Question.

If we know of other results from tournaments (i.e. consolation rounds etc.) that were never posted or compiled, are they allowable in terms of adding them to the records/ratings of teams here?

For instance, the consolation rounds that i was told would be completed "sometime" for the Ben Cooper Invitational: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=5896. If i know the scores of some (read: i guess just CR's) consolation round matches, may they be entered? Or due to the apathy of the tournament hosts, are we only allowed to enter games if all applicable and associated ones can be entered and not just selected ones that i have written down?
Can't speak for everyone, but I know that Byko has kindly entered partial results from tournaments when our team was able to provide them and full result files were unavailable for various reasons.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Byko » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:18 pm

Joshua Rutsky wrote:
Caesar Rodney HS wrote:Question.

If we know of other results from tournaments (i.e. consolation rounds etc.) that were never posted or compiled, are they allowable in terms of adding them to the records/ratings of teams here?

For instance, the consolation rounds that i was told would be completed "sometime" for the Ben Cooper Invitational: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=5896. If i know the scores of some (read: i guess just CR's) consolation round matches, may they be entered? Or due to the apathy of the tournament hosts, are we only allowed to enter games if all applicable and associated ones can be entered and not just selected ones that i have written down?
Can't speak for everyone, but I know that Byko has kindly entered partial results from tournaments when our team was able to provide them and full result files were unavailable for various reasons.
+1 for Mr. Rutsky. If you send me results for even just your (varsity) team(s) for the season, I'll put them in provided they meet all the other guidelines as in the FAQ. There are several teams that have already done this for their own schools, and I've received multiple submissions of tournaments who didn't post stats but where someone wrote up and e-mailed me everything that they remembered from the event, often for more than just the team they play for or coach. I'm fine with that--the more data received and entered, the better.

I will admit this now: as Illinois is having seeding meetings for regionals/sectionals coming up this Wednesday, my top priority in entering data is going to be anything related to Illinois teams. Some teams have sent me results for them for the whole season. A few leagues have even sent me full results for the year. Plus there are a couple tournaments I still need to enter. So, if you've sent me data and it takes a week for me to get entered (I'm out of town Thursday through Sunday coming up this week and weekend) and are wondering why it hasn't been entered, there's the reason--for right now, if you're from Illinois, you get priority from me.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:23 pm

Priority is not a problem/concern. Just wanted to know if certain games would be entered if submitted. You answered by question. Thanks!
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Post by Deviant Insider » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:25 am

I want to thank David publicly. He probably entered in about 1000 Illinois matches over the past few days, just when the results do the most good.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Byko » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:00 pm

There is an urgent updated message on the site's front page.

In short, please do not expect any updates for a while, as this problem will need to be fixed first, and it may not be until Monday that I will be able to start working on actually fixing things in earnest.

It would definitely be helpful to me if you happen to have any cached files of your team's results and were able to e-mail them to me.

I appreciate your patience as I deal with what, statistically, is a tragic situation. If you happen to have any ideas on things that may be helpful to me, please let me know.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:26 am

Geez, that Quincy team has to be sick and tired of losing to Macomb over and over again.

I think in the 5,629th game, they're going to pull off the upset.
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Post by BGSO » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:31 am

If the alg was recalculated would Macombhave a rating of ∞?
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Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:47 pm

Byko wrote:It would definitely be helpful to me if you happen to have any cached files of your team's results and were able to e-mail them to me.
I went through all the tournaments we've been to this year and i have pretty much every game that all 4 of our teams have played in separate .doc files.

I can send them if you're going to need them.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Byko » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:27 pm

Caesar Rodney HS wrote:
Byko wrote:It would definitely be helpful to me if you happen to have any cached files of your team's results and were able to e-mail them to me.
I went through all the tournaments we've been to this year and i have pretty much every game that all 4 of our teams have played in separate .doc files.

I can send them if you're going to need them.
Feel free to send them whenever you get the chance. Obviously, there's no rush.

The priority on my end is going to be to get the user admin area set up for logins and passwords to allow for secure data entry by people other than just me. I'm shooting to get that done by the end of this month--depending on other things that happen, the end of this week could be possible. Then we can get to the part of re-creating the 2008-09 data.

Officially, I have almost all of the 2006-07 and 2007-08 data, and I'm pretty sure I know what from those years was lost--it wasn't much, and it was all entered after those seasons were over. But it looks like everything from 2008-09 was lost and unrecoverable.

There's still work I need to do to import the backup from 2007-08 and perform some updates from the backup, but that shouldn't be a problem--I've used it once before, and it just took about 2-3 hours (at most) to get everything working and in place.

We're going to get there, especially with some help from a few people who have volunteered. If we're able to get everything entered and up-to-date by nationals, that would be awesome. That will also be difficult, though. We'll see how it goes.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Joshua Rutsky » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:02 am

May I suggest the possibility of having someone from each state help you out when possible? It's a lot easier to get local tourney results than it is to get them nationally, and that might make it easier in the future to get a more complete and accurate picture. I certainly would be happy to help with Alabama.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Byko » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:45 am

Joshua Rutsky wrote:May I suggest the possibility of having someone from each state help you out when possible? It's a lot easier to get local tourney results than it is to get them nationally, and that might make it easier in the future to get a more complete and accurate picture. I certainly would be happy to help with Alabama.
Yes you may, and I am happy to have your (and anyone else's that's interested) help.

With the way things are going here at work and outside of it, user accounts will not be done until the end of the month, not the end of this week as I had initially hoped.
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Post by Ben Dillon » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:43 pm

I'll take care of all Indiana tournaments and leagues when the remote's ready and not bother you with more emails. Though I'd love to have rankings going before our state tourney on Pi Day :)
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Post by Charbroil » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:32 am

I'm also willing to take care of Missouri related stuff, and I've emailed regarding that, but haven't gotten any response...

Are you still thinking of allowing independent data inputters?
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Post by Byko » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:50 pm

Charbroil wrote:I'm also willing to take care of Missouri related stuff, and I've emailed regarding that, but haven't gotten any response...

Are you still thinking of allowing independent data inputters?
I did receive the e-mail. Setting up accounts for multiple user access is over halfway done. Of course, work got in the way big time pretty much as soon as the calendar turned, so now I have less time to work on developing it.

At this point, I may yield to a less-than-ideal temporary solution that would at least let people start putting in data sooner. I'll try to let you all know in this space by Friday.
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Post by BuzzerZen » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:57 pm

Byko wrote:
Charbroil wrote:I'm also willing to take care of Missouri related stuff, and I've emailed regarding that, but haven't gotten any response...

Are you still thinking of allowing independent data inputters?
I did receive the e-mail. Setting up accounts for multiple user access is over halfway done. Of course, work got in the way big time pretty much as soon as the calendar turned, so now I have less time to work on developing it.

At this point, I may yield to a less-than-ideal temporary solution that would at least let people start putting in data sooner. I'll try to let you all know in this space by Friday.
Dave, I'd recommend moving the stuff over to the hsqb server as discussed a couple months ago before you go live with that change. It'll be more stable and less burdensome on the proverbial Box in your Basement.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

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BuzzerZen wrote:
Byko wrote:
Charbroil wrote:I'm also willing to take care of Missouri related stuff, and I've emailed regarding that, but haven't gotten any response...

Are you still thinking of allowing independent data inputters?
I did receive the e-mail. Setting up accounts for multiple user access is over halfway done. Of course, work got in the way big time pretty much as soon as the calendar turned, so now I have less time to work on developing it.

At this point, I may yield to a less-than-ideal temporary solution that would at least let people start putting in data sooner. I'll try to let you all know in this space by Friday.
Dave, I'd recommend moving the stuff over to the hsqb server as discussed a couple months ago before you go live with that change. It'll be more stable and less burdensome on the proverbial Box in your Basement.
That's a really good idea that I didn't really think about. Obviously, I can't actually get the move to happen this weekend because of WoQ, but we may be able to get it done next weekend so that data entry in some form can get started again right after that.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:18 pm

Any headway with this? I'm one of the people that would love to help out if i'm able, and i'm sure that Bill Tressler and I can easily take care of Delaware and the surrounding area when it comes to data entry, etc.

This did inspire to me to fix our website up so that every score and result from every match is on there, so we don't have to rely on another site for anything like that again. But we would love to have our good old rankings back, and i'm sure that many of us will help out in any way possible to make that happen.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:05 pm

Caesar Rodney HS wrote:Any headway with this?
So, i guess that's a no, huh.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by smithp5 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:48 pm

Hello:
Just curious to see if any progress has been made in the last couple of months with getting the Byko Rankings back up again...thanks!
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Nine-Tenths Ideas » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:12 pm

Well, I'd assume that, if these are continued, Byko would start from scratch next year and this year would be a hole in the record.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Kouign Amann » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:16 pm

Johannes Climacus wrote:Well, I'd assume that, if these are continued, Byko would start from scratch next year and this year would be a hole in the record.
Yeah, seeing as this year is completely over, with no more need for the rankings (seeding for all nationals is over, nationals are over with champions declared, and the year end poll is coming out shortly), it doesn't make sense for much effort to be spent fixing what happened this year. He'll just start over next year, I guess.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by evilmonkey » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:08 pm

Prof.Whoopie wrote:
Johannes Climacus wrote:Well, I'd assume that, if these are continued, Byko would start from scratch next year and this year would be a hole in the record.
Yeah, seeing as this year is completely over, with no more need for the rankings (seeding for all nationals is over, nationals are over with champions declared, and the year end poll is coming out shortly), it doesn't make sense for much effort to be spent fixing what happened this year. He'll just start over next year, I guess.
I'd be interested in seeing this years data. Enough so that, if Byko doesn't actually want to input the data, but can set it up so other people can, I'd be willing to spend a substantial chunk of time doing so.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Angry Babies in Love » Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:32 am

Johannes Climacus wrote:Well, I'd assume that, if these are continued, Byko would start from scratch next year and this year would be a hole in the record.
This year being a hole in the record!? Sounds great!
But I would also like to help, as I would also want to see this year's stats up, even though they aren't very pretty for RM :P
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Byko » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:11 am

rmgeokid wrote:
Johannes Climacus wrote:Well, I'd assume that, if these are continued, Byko would start from scratch next year and this year would be a hole in the record.
This year being a hole in the record!? Sounds great!
But I would also like to help, as I would also want to see this year's stats up, even though they aren't very pretty for RM :P
Yeah, pretty much, that covers it. It isn't something I'm really going to focus time on, but I am going to make sure they're available for next year and open for people to be able to enter data themselves. There's already a few people that have expressed interesting in doing this for their states/regions next year, but I could always use more help, so just let me know...sometime next week or later (this week isn't a good time with another project I'm working on and spending almost all of my time on).
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:59 am

Byko wrote:
rmgeokid wrote:
Johannes Climacus wrote:Well, I'd assume that, if these are continued, Byko would start from scratch next year and this year would be a hole in the record.
This year being a hole in the record!? Sounds great!
But I would also like to help, as I would also want to see this year's stats up, even though they aren't very pretty for RM :P
Yeah, pretty much, that covers it. It isn't something I'm really going to focus time on, but I am going to make sure they're available for next year and open for people to be able to enter data themselves. There's already a few people that have expressed interesting in doing this for their states/regions next year, but I could always use more help, so just let me know...sometime next week or later (this week isn't a good time with another project I'm working on and spending almost all of my time on).
Mmhm. We've already talked, but you know you can count on me for, like... i dunno... a lot of the Mid-Atlantic region for stats and stuff. Or at least, i'll take care of as much as i can and hopefully have a couple others who can pick up my slack.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Unicolored Jay » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:18 pm

Byko wrote:
rmgeokid wrote:
Johannes Climacus wrote:Well, I'd assume that, if these are continued, Byko would start from scratch next year and this year would be a hole in the record.
This year being a hole in the record!? Sounds great!
But I would also like to help, as I would also want to see this year's stats up, even though they aren't very pretty for RM :P
Yeah, pretty much, that covers it. It isn't something I'm really going to focus time on, but I am going to make sure they're available for next year and open for people to be able to enter data themselves. There's already a few people that have expressed interesting in doing this for their states/regions next year, but I could always use more help, so just let me know...sometime next week or later (this week isn't a good time with another project I'm working on and spending almost all of my time on).
I'd like to help out with this, and I'm sure other people in my state would be glad to also.
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Post by Ben Dillon » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:39 pm

I'm still in, even after the year's over :)
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by dxdtdemon » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:57 pm

Bird Sonata wrote:
Byko wrote:
rmgeokid wrote:
Johannes Climacus wrote:Well, I'd assume that, if these are continued, Byko would start from scratch next year and this year would be a hole in the record.
This year being a hole in the record!? Sounds great!
But I would also like to help, as I would also want to see this year's stats up, even though they aren't very pretty for RM :P
Yeah, pretty much, that covers it. It isn't something I'm really going to focus time on, but I am going to make sure they're available for next year and open for people to be able to enter data themselves. There's already a few people that have expressed interesting in doing this for their states/regions next year, but I could always use more help, so just let me know...sometime next week or later (this week isn't a good time with another project I'm working on and spending almost all of my time on).
I'd like to help out with this, and I'm sure other people in my state would be glad to also.
I always wondered how the Buckeye Division of the Fort Ancient Valley Conference stacked up against other leagues across the country, as well as whether or not the Medlar Cup octofinalists are any better than the top team from the second division of the Mahoning County League. Seriously, though, I'd be willing to help.
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Re: Byko Rankings 2008-2009

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:48 am

So David, what's the update for this year? Is there going to be a new address or will the same one apply? Let us know what us helpers can do to assist in any way. Looks like the first tournament of record is going to be tomorrow.
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Camden, Delaware
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University of Delaware '01-'05
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