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Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:49 pm
by millionwaves
This is the official announcement for the Earlybird Tournament, which will be held at the University of Illinois on Saturday, October 25, 2008. This tournament will use house written questions produced collaboratively between the Minnesota, Brown, and Illinois college teams. To register or ask questions, please e-mail James Sanner at jsanner2@uiuc.edu.

QUESTIONS:

As stated above, Earlybird will use pyramidal questions arranged in 20/20 tossup/bonus rounds. They are being written by Minnesota, Illinois, and Brown. The questions will follow a modified ACF subject distribution; functionally, this means that Illinois teams can expect to see much less math than they're used to, in addition to a complete lack of Industrial Arts, Driver's Education, and other questions in that vain.

FORMAT:

The Earlybird tournament will use its traditional format, which is something of a blend of IHSA and ACF. This means that teams will consist of four players. Bonuses will be read one part at a time, after which the team that correctly answered the tossup will have a chance to answer. If that team fails to answer it correctly, the other team will be allowed to give an answer, after which the next bonus part will be read. The tournament will attempt to use the fairest possible preliminary and afternoon formats.

WHO WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT:

The University of Illinois ABT is pleased to invite all interested teams from any state to attend this tournament. In the past, we've attracted teams from Indiana, Michigan, and Missouri; we hope those teams will return and bring other teams with them. We're also interested in receiving second, third, fourth, and nth teams from the same school.

COST:

The base registration fee is $65. Teams may receive a $5 discount for each working buzzer set they bring up to $10, for a minimum registration fee of $55 per team. Schools that bring multiple teams may receive a discount for subsequent teams at the discretion of the Tournament Director.

REGISTRATION:

If you're interested in registration, please e-mail Tournament Director James Sanner at jsanner2@uiuc.edu.

We hope to see many of you in October!

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:57 pm
by Siverus Snape
Wooo!

Please do come, out of state teams.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:47 am
by David Riley
Yeah, we can always use new blood here!

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:10 pm
by millionwaves
The field has currently reached nine teams. Also, we are officially using HSAPQ ACF Set #1 for this event.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:03 pm
by JackGlerum
millionwaves wrote:nine teams
Which ones?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:15 pm
by Siverus Snape
Is there a field update, Trygve?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:36 pm
by David Riley
Loyola has 3 teams, and Auburn and New Trier at least one...who are the other four? Inquiring minds want to know!

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:55 pm
by Siverus Snape
We're currently scheduled for two teams, so that leaves three unknowns.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:19 pm
by gack1224
Bettendorf will be fielding one team. We were, however, registered after the "nine teams" post.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:35 pm
by Deviant Insider
I just heard that Carbondale will be there.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:59 pm
by Deviant Insider
As of right now, the field is:
Auburn 2 (possible 3rd)
New Trier 1
Loyola 3
Springfield 1
Rolling Meadows 1
IMSA (1)
Carbondale (2)
Bettendorf (1)
Crete/Monee 2
Dunlap (1) unconfirmed

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:08 pm
by JackGlerum
Lime, Self and Society wrote:As of right now, the field is:
Auburn 2 (possible 3rd)
New Trier 1
Loyola 3
Springfield 1
Rolling Meadows 1
IMSA (1)
Carbondale (2)
Bettendorf (1)
Crete/Monee 2
Dunlap (1) unconfirmed
Nice, that's a good mix.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:36 am
by Siverus Snape
It's too bad that none of the out-of-state powerhouses are going to be there, but it is pretty awesome that Bettendorf is making the trip.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:05 pm
by Summoned Skull
FINAL FIELD:

Auburn 2 confirmed
New Trier 1 confirmed
Loyola 3 confirmed
Springfield 1 confirmed
Rolling Meadows 1 confirmed
IMSA 1 confirmed
Carbondale 2 confirmed
Bettendorf 1 confirmed
Crete/Monee 2 confirmed
Cumberland 1 confirmed
St. Ignatius 1 confirmed [edit: my mistake; I accidentally omitted this]

That makes 16 teams, which is just about perfect. I'll have a real schedule put together ASAP.

-James Sanner

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:52 pm
by JackGlerum
Is this going to be a 14 round RR, pool play w/playoffs, or something else?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:06 am
by Deviant Insider
I just heard from Saint Ignatius. They thought they were entered. Frank.Bellucci at ignatius dot org

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:38 pm
by Summoned Skull
We will be playing in this format:

Prelim:
Two brackets of 8

Finals
Four brackets of 4


Individual scorers will receive books, and trophies will be mailed to the winners as I have been informed they will not be ready on time.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:37 pm
by BGSO
Lunchtime update?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:01 pm
by dtaylor4
Not lunch yet. In round 5 right now.

IMSA no-showed, so Springfield B replaced them. Updates forthcoming.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:52 pm
by dtaylor4
After round 5:

That Ben guy from New Trier can get some tossups.

New Trier, Auburn and Loyola are averaging over 500 PPG, while New Trier, Auburn, and Carbondale have each topped 600.

Auburn, New Trier, and Loyola are undefeated. Auburn beat Carbondale 345-315, and New Trier has yet to face Loyola.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:55 pm
by BGSO
Results?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:46 pm
by jonah
BGSO wrote:Results?
I'm sure James will post soon, and I'll post a link to the full stats as soon as I post them (which will be shortly after Donald sends me them), but New Trier won, beating Auburn, Carbondale, and Loyola in the playoffs.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:18 pm
by aestheteboy
I'm assuming that the question set indicated on the original announcement is not correct - which set was used?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:19 pm
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
millionwaves wrote:The field has currently reached nine teams. Also, we are officially using HSAPQ ACF Set #1 for this event.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:10 pm
by David Riley
Great tournament! Looking forward to the final stats.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:20 pm
by JackGlerum
For those who want instant gratification, the top RR went like so:

1. New Trier (3-0)
2. Auburn (2-1)
3. Carbondale (1-2)
4. Loyola (0-3)

Are we allowed to discuss this set?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:26 am
by Siverus Snape
I don't think set discussion is allowed until the end of the semester, when all the HSAPQ questions will be posted online for free.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:25 am
by Deviant Insider
Thanks to Illinois for running a solid tournament and HSAPQ for a very good question set. We weren't planning on playing any other tournaments on HSAPQ this year, but we will look into whether we reasonably can. The competition was strong and was especially close among the top four teams.

If anybody wants to make specific comments on questions, I would recommend sending an email to HSAPQ now and then posting it somewhere on this board at a later date. It's a new company, and they probably would appreciate feedback. Emails should be sent to tedgioia @ starpower.net

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:20 pm
by JackGlerum
Will the stats be up tonight?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:24 pm
by jonah
JackGlerum wrote:Will the stats be up tonight?
The stats will be up very very shortly after Donald gets them to me. I promise I won't forget and I won't let Donald forget, and I also promise to post here as soon as I have them posted.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:24 pm
by dtaylor4
They will be up when I get the scoresheets from the TD and enter them into SQBS.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:19 pm
by gack1224
Excellent pyramidal questions overall, they allowed excellent matches.

One comment though and perhaps something to improve on is the quality of the moderating, specifically with pronounciation of words (LA DA DEE DEAAAAAAAAAAAA) which hurts especially when reading quickly. Another comment from a friend was that the question describing characters in the NFL GENERIC sounded like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGG names. It was just unpleasant on that type of question which required some knowledge of prounciation.

(User was tempbanned for one day for this post. Reason: posting answers to sets before they are cleared for discussion)

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:38 pm
by AKKOLADE
gack1224 wrote:(User was tempbanned for one day for this post. Reason: posting answers to sets before they are cleared for discussion)
I would just like to remind everyone that the questions for this set are not yet cleared for public, specific discussion.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:50 pm
by BGSO
Stats update?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:20 pm
by dtaylor4
I will enter all of the playoff stats I have been given tomorrow night. If I have them all, they will be posted.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:04 pm
by jonah
I apologize for the delays; some scoresheets never made it to Donald. The results from everything he has are posted.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:23 pm
by jonah
I took them back down due to some severe problems. They should be up again within a few hours. Sorry!

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:36 pm
by jonah
Everything should be working again; same link.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:32 pm
by ClemsonQB
For a while, I was stunned at the amazing P/B's of both Rockford Auburn and Carbondale, but upon further investigation, it appears each team received 10 pts more than they should have on two different occasions. I mean, Siva is a pretty cool guy, but 39.09 ppb in one round is a little bit of a stretch. Its so easy to make mistakes when you're entering hundreds of numbers into a computer.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:40 pm
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
George, have you never seen the flawed b/c that comes from rebounding bonuses?

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:44 pm
by ClemsonQB
GARBAGE DAY 425 wrote:George, have you never seen the flawed b/c that comes from rebounding bonuses?
I didn't realize the Earlybird had rebounding bonuses, and my direct answer to your question is no.

Re: Earlybird Tournament at University of Illinois (10/25/08)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:58 pm
by dtaylor4
ClemsonQB wrote:Its so easy to make mistakes when you're entering hundreds of numbers into a computer.
Since SQBS pops up an error message whenever a team apparently has over 30 ppb, I make sure the numbers are accurate.