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Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by intothenegs » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:01 pm

James Monroe High School (Fredericksburg, VA) will be hosting the Monroe Academic TournamenT (MATT) on Saturday, May 16. The tournament will be using HSAPQ's ACF-4 set; we will now aim to offer all teams attending at least 10 games. Tournament format will depend on the field size- most likely, there will be bracketed preliminaries, and then rebracketed playoffs and then finals. The field cap will be 18 teams, for now, though we may expand that if there is demand and there are enough moderators to do so. There will be trophies for the top teams and book prizes for top individuals.

Pricing for this tournament:
+$60 base fee
+$55 per any additional teams
-$5 per functioning buzzer system (with eight working buzzers)
-$5 per moderator (someone who can read or scorekeep)
Minimum $45 per team

Teams that wish to register may either post here or email me at chwangNOSPAM3326@gmail.com. (Remove the "NOSPAM")

EDIT: Question set and pricing
EDIT: Tournament name change.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:29 pm

We may have interest in this, especially since it's the first announced tournament in May that i'm pretty sure we'd be able to go to.

But with us being accepted to NSC and HSNCT... we may have some funding issues.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Haaaaaaaarry Whiiiiiiiiiite » Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:31 pm

TJ should be there with a nonzero amount of teams.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by at your pleasure » Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:40 pm

Whitman is looking into this.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:07 pm

This is still happening, no? We're looking into it, but we'd either go to this or to UMaryland's the week prior (if they move it from Mother's Day to Saturday).
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by intothenegs » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:58 pm

Caesar Rodney HS wrote:This is still happening, no? We're looking into it, but we'd either go to this or to UMaryland's the week prior (if they move it from Mother's Day to Saturday).
This tournament is indeed still on. Also, if you are planning on attending, it'd be really helpful to express interest/sign up early so we can get an idea of how much of our school we need to use.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:08 pm

Gov is interested with 1-3 teams, depending on how many people we can get to commit to going.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Kouign Amann » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:36 pm

Saint Anselm's is interested, but we couldn't know for sure until after April 25, the date of our next taping. May 16 is the taping date for the finals, so we couldn't register until we know about our possible participation in that. *massive knocks on wood all around in order to avoid possibly jinxing ourselves*
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by First Chairman » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:15 am

hwhite wrote:TJ should be there with a nonzero amount of teams.
As long as n > 0... ;)
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Post by Haaaaaaaarry Whiiiiiiiiiite » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:26 am

First Chairman wrote:
hwhite wrote:TJ should be there with a nonzero amount of teams.
As long as n > 0... ;)
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by intothenegs » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:31 am

Thread bump. This tournament will now tentatively be using HSAPQ's ACF-4 set. There's been a slight change in pricing due to our change in question source.

Field:

Registered:
G. C. Marshall (1 buzzer)
Gonzaga (1 buzzer)
Mercersburg Academy (1-2) (1 buzzer)
South Lakes (1 buzzer)

Expressed Interest:
Churchill (1-2)
Georgetown Day
Maggie Walker (1-3)
New Kent
Thomas Jefferson (multiple teams?)

EDIT: field
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Adventure Temple Trail » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:02 pm

GDS is expressing interest in sending a team or two to this.
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Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:35 pm

Well, the change to HSAPQ makes us more interested... but we're not sure if we're going to be able to come.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by aestheteboy » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:57 pm

It's the day after our prom, so I don't know if I'll make it or not. WJ's attendance becomes more likely with things like powers and a strong field.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by pretzeldude92 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:54 pm

Rapp Co. is expressing interest. We might be able to come; I'll talk with my team tomorrow.
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Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:03 pm

Just wanted to say that we won't be able to make this tournament. Here's hoping for a successful day, though. Good luck to you guys.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by intothenegs » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:00 pm

Field bump. This tournament will be happening in just a little over three weeks- sign up soon for some excellent HSAPQ questions and a strong field!

Registered (6-7):
Chancellor (1 buzzer)
G. C. Marshall (1 buzzer)
Gonzaga (1 buzzer)
Mercersburg Academy (1-2) (1 buzzer)
Spotswood (1 buzzer)
South Lakes (1 buzzer)

Expressed Interest:
Churchill (1-2)
Georgetown Day
Maggie Walker (1-3)
New Kent
Rappahannock Co.
Thomas Jefferson (multiple teams?)
Whitman

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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by at your pleasure » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:54 pm

Whitman will express interest.
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Post by intothenegs » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:31 pm

Field bump. There is now only two and a half weeks until this tournament- register now to play against an excellent field on high-quality questions!

Registered (9-11):
Chancellor (1 buzzer)
Churchill (2)
G. C. Marshall (1 buzzer)
Georgetown Day School (1-2)
Gonzaga (1 buzzer)
Mercersburg Academy (1-2) (1 buzzer)
Spotswood (1 buzzer)
South Lakes (1 buzzer)

Expressed Interest:
Maggie Walker (1-3)
New Kent
Rappahannock Co.
St. Anselm's
Thomas Jefferson (multiple teams?)
Whitman

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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Kouign Amann » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:12 pm

Yeah, you can probably put us as "interested" now. I'll bring this up at practice.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by The King's Flight to the Scots » Mon May 04, 2009 8:42 pm

Due to certain events going on at our school that day, our coach may be unable to come. In that case, would it be possible to pay for it ourselves and come unaffiliated?
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Post by intothenegs » Tue May 05, 2009 7:05 am

ColJade wrote:Due to certain events going on at our school that day, our coach may be unable to come. In that case, would it be possible to pay for it ourselves and come unaffiliated?
Yes- that's fine.
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Post by intothenegs » Wed May 06, 2009 1:27 pm

Field bump with 10 days until the tournament! If you plan on attending, please register soon so that we can start working out a schedule/format.

Also, if someone from the unaffiliated St. Anselm's team can send me an email to confirm that you're coming, that'd be great.

Registered (14-16):
Chancellor (1 buzzer)
Churchill (2)
G. C. Marshall (1 buzzer)
Georgetown Day School (1-2)
Gonzaga (1 buzzer)
J. R. Tucker
Mercersburg Academy (1-2) (1 buzzer)
Spotswood (1 buzzer)
South Lakes (1 buzzer)
Thomas Jefferson (3) (2 buzzers)
Walter Johnson (1 buzzer)

Expressed Interest:
Maggie Walker (1-3)
New Kent
Rappahannock Co.
St. Anselm's
Whitman
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Post by Kouign Amann » Wed May 06, 2009 6:30 pm

intothenegs wrote: Also, if someone from the unaffiliated St. Anselm's team can send me an email to confirm that you're coming, that'd be great.
We have practice tomorrow, so we shall discuss and determine the status under which we are playing. Expect an email tomorrow-ish.
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Post by Haaaaaaaarry Whiiiiiiiiiite » Wed May 06, 2009 7:00 pm

It looks like TJ will be bringing 3 teams and 2 buzzers.
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Post by aestheteboy » Wed May 06, 2009 8:57 pm

WJ would like to sign up. We will bring a buzzer system if we don't forget.
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Post by maxemuschs » Thu May 07, 2009 4:34 pm

There is a possibility that Centennial will be able to send one team, though I won't know until at least tomorrow.
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Post by intothenegs » Thu May 07, 2009 6:28 pm

We're either at our cap already or are 2 teams away from reaching it, so if you plan on attending, your team should register soon! Teams that register now will be put on our waitlist while I check on tentative B teams and on the availability of more rooms and moderators.

The current plan for this tournament, if we end up with 18 teams, is to divide into three preliminary brackets of six, and then rebracket after lunch with the top two teams from each prelim bracket advancing into a playoff bracket of six. If any team goes undefeated in the playoff bracket, they will be declared the champion; if there is a tie record between two teams, we will play an advantaged final, and if there is a circle of death for first, the three teams will be seeded by PPG, and seed two and seed three will play to reach the championship match. If there is a tie for second place, it will be played off with one match; if there is a circle of death for second place, it will be played off with half packets.

I'm open to any suggestions anyone has on that; in any case, the tournament will be over by 6:00 at the latest as our school's drama club has a production that night and will be kicking us out by then. Registration will start at 8:00, there will be some general announcements at 8:45, and matches will start promptly at 9:00. Teams that do not arrive by 9:00 and have not contacted me will forfeit their first match. Our goal (perhaps somewhat unrealistic) is to wrap up 10 rounds by 4:30, as I know many schools have prom that night and many teams will want to return in time for that.

An email version of this will be sent out early next week.

Registered (16-18):
Chancellor (1 buzzer)
Churchill (2) (1 buzzer)
G. C. Marshall (1 buzzer)
Georgetown Day School (1-2)
Gonzaga (1 buzzer)
J. R. Tucker
Mercersburg Academy (1-2) (1 buzzer)
New Kent
Spotswood (1 buzzer)
South Lakes (1 buzzer)
St. Anselm's
Thomas Jefferson (3) (2 buzzers)
Walter Johnson (1 buzzer)

Expressed Interest:
Centennial
Maggie Walker (1-3)
Rappahannock Co.
Whitman
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We have 7 readers right now- if you can help out, that'd be great!
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Post by intothenegs » Thu May 07, 2009 6:44 pm

We've now hit our field cap of 18 teams- if you'd still like to register, we'll put you on the waitlist and contact you if we can either find more moderators/rooms or if any teams drop.

Registered (18):
Chancellor (1 buzzer)
Churchill (2) (1 buzzer)
G. C. Marshall (1 buzzer)
Georgetown Day School (2)
Gonzaga (1 buzzer)
J. R. Tucker
Maggie Walker (2)
New Kent
Spotswood (1 buzzer)
South Lakes (1 buzzer)
St. Anselm's
Thomas Jefferson (2) (2 buzzers)
Walter Johnson (1 buzzer)
Whitman (1 buzzer)

Waitlist:
Centennial
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Post by at your pleasure » Thu May 07, 2009 6:47 pm

When did Whitman drop off the "expressed interest" list? I assume we are on the waitlist now.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by intothenegs » Thu May 07, 2009 7:20 pm

Anti-Climacus wrote:When did Whitman drop off the "expressed interest" list? I assume we are on the waitlist now.
Sorry- that was my mistake, I somehow deleted Whitman when I was making that previous post.
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Post by Haaaaaaaarry Whiiiiiiiiiite » Thu May 07, 2009 7:32 pm

intothenegs wrote:The current plan for this tournament, if we end up with 18 teams, is to divide into three preliminary brackets of six, and then rebracket after lunch with the top two teams from each prelim bracket advancing into a playoff bracket of six. If any team goes undefeated in the playoff bracket, they will be declared the champion; if there is a tie record between two teams, we will play an advantaged final, and if there is a circle of death for first, the three teams will be seeded by PPG, and seed two and seed three will play to reach the championship match. If there is a tie for second place, it will be played off with one match; if there is a circle of death for second place, it will be played off with half packets.
How will there be an advantaged final between two tied teams?
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by intothenegs » Thu May 07, 2009 8:02 pm

hwhite wrote:
intothenegs wrote:The current plan for this tournament, if we end up with 18 teams, is to divide into three preliminary brackets of six, and then rebracket after lunch with the top two teams from each prelim bracket advancing into a playoff bracket of six. If any team goes undefeated in the playoff bracket, they will be declared the champion; if there is a tie record between two teams, we will play an advantaged final, and if there is a circle of death for first, the three teams will be seeded by PPG, and seed two and seed three will play to reach the championship match. If there is a tie for second place, it will be played off with one match; if there is a circle of death for second place, it will be played off with half packets.
How will there be an advantaged final between two tied teams?
The plan was to give the team that had previously won head-to-head an advantage going into the final- but if teams would rather not do that, that's fine by me. I'll admit I'm not terribly skilled at making tournament formats, so all input is very welcome.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by aestheteboy » Thu May 07, 2009 8:26 pm

intothenegs wrote:
hwhite wrote:
intothenegs wrote:The current plan for this tournament, if we end up with 18 teams, is to divide into three preliminary brackets of six, and then rebracket after lunch with the top two teams from each prelim bracket advancing into a playoff bracket of six. If any team goes undefeated in the playoff bracket, they will be declared the champion; if there is a tie record between two teams, we will play an advantaged final, and if there is a circle of death for first, the three teams will be seeded by PPG, and seed two and seed three will play to reach the championship match. If there is a tie for second place, it will be played off with one match; if there is a circle of death for second place, it will be played off with half packets.
How will there be an advantaged final between two tied teams?
The plan was to give the team that had previously won head-to-head an advantage going into the final- but if teams would rather not do that, that's fine by me. I'll admit I'm not terribly skilled at making tournament formats, so all input is very welcome.
Yeah, I don't think it's a good idea to give an advantage for head to head victory.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Haaaaaaaarry Whiiiiiiiiiite » Thu May 07, 2009 8:27 pm

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intothenegs wrote:The current plan for this tournament, if we end up with 18 teams, is to divide into three preliminary brackets of six, and then rebracket after lunch with the top two teams from each prelim bracket advancing into a playoff bracket of six. If any team goes undefeated in the playoff bracket, they will be declared the champion; if there is a tie record between two teams, we will play an advantaged final, and if there is a circle of death for first, the three teams will be seeded by PPG, and seed two and seed three will play to reach the championship match. If there is a tie for second place, it will be played off with one match; if there is a circle of death for second place, it will be played off with half packets.
How will there be an advantaged final between two tied teams?
The plan was to give the team that had previously won head-to-head an advantage going into the final- but if teams would rather not do that, that's fine by me. I'll admit I'm not terribly skilled at making tournament formats, so all input is very welcome.
The conventional wisdom is to have a one-game final if the top two teams are tied, an advantaged final if a team has a one-game advantage (so, say, 6-0 versus 5-1), and no final if a team finishes two or more games ahead.
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Re: Unnamed tournament at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by intothenegs » Thu May 07, 2009 8:58 pm

hwhite wrote: The conventional wisdom is to have a one-game final if the top two teams are tied, an advantaged final if a team has a one-game advantage (so, say, 6-0 versus 5-1), and no final if a team finishes two or more games ahead.
This sounds extraordinarily reasonable. I will definitely adopt the one-game final if the top two teams are tied; I'll work a bit at the schedule and see how we'll fit things if we need an advantaged final. In any case, I'll have a more definite answer on this by next Tuesday.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by intothenegs » Thu May 14, 2009 4:27 pm

Could someone from TJ give me a name/email address for who I should send information to about format/directions and such?
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Haaaaaaaarry Whiiiiiiiiiite » Thu May 14, 2009 5:20 pm

intothenegs wrote:Could someone from TJ give me a name/email address for who I should send information to about format/directions and such?
My email address should be underneath my avatar.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by at your pleasure » Fri May 15, 2009 10:56 am

Whitman would like to know today if any teams have dropped or are expected to drop, since we're on the waitlist.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Haaaaaaaarry Whiiiiiiiiiite » Fri May 15, 2009 3:21 pm

Hey, it looks like TJ will only be bringing two teams.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sat May 16, 2009 1:20 pm

After the prelims, Maggie Walker A, GDS A, Walter Johnson, Gonzaga, Whitman and St. Anselm's are moving on to the playoff bracket. Maggie Walker put up a grail vs. New Kent in round 3, winning 700 - -5.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Sat May 16, 2009 2:47 pm

Did St. Anselm's beat Churchill to make it to the playoffs? Impressive, if they did.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sat May 16, 2009 3:18 pm

St. Anselm's prelim bracket featured TJ A, Churchill, Maggie Walker A, New Kent and GDS B.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sat May 16, 2009 6:21 pm

I'm sure Chuhern will have more later, but briefly: Maggie Walker went undefeated in the playoff brackets to take the title. Gonzaga finished second, GDS A third.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by Kouign Amann » Sat May 16, 2009 6:31 pm

Thanks to James Monroe for hosting a great way to wind up our season. HSAPQ again provided good questions, the tournament was efficiently run, and things were generally a success . Congrats to Gov, who looked great today, beating us quite soundly two games in a row, and of course to Daichi, playing like a man on two hours of sleep. I look forward to the next iteration of the MATT.
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Re: Monroe Academic TournamenT at James Monroe (5/16/09)

Post by t-bar » Sat May 16, 2009 7:14 pm

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