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Post by the return of AHAN » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:07 am

OK, so we're just a few days away from IESA Regionals, so I thought I'd share my predictions:
Class A:
Sectional A: Sterling St. Mary's, Ottawa Wallace, Palatine Quest (upset special), Ottawa St. Columba
Sectional B: R-B, Streator Woodland, Tonica (upset special, because I once a had a drink in a bar there), Lostant
Sectional C: Peoria Academy, Bradford, Bartonville Monroe (upset special, but can a 2-time State champ ever be considered an upset?), Sparland Midland
Sectional D: Paris Crestwood, Champaign St. Matthew, Catlin, Piper City Tri-Point
Sectional E: Holy Trinity, Bloomington Cornerstone (don't care if they are a 5 seed, they're the defending champs), Washington St. Patrick's, Illiopolis Sangamon Valley
Sectional F: Astoria, Carrollton (as a former resident of those parts, seriously? the 2 seed?), Mendon Unity, Bushnell Prairie
Sectional G: Buffalo Tri-City, Springfield Our Savior, Aviston (yeah! Tiny Aviston! A small school that always wanted to battle the big schools when I coached down there!), Raymond Lincolnwood (upset special; another Class A school that sought out the AA schools, even if it meant getting the heads kicked in)
Sectional H: Effingham St. Anthony, Altamont, Neoga, Geff (yes, all chalk here)


Class AA (the schools I really do have business picking)
Sectional A: Barrington Station (what? pick against my own kids?), L'Shire Daniel Wright (death, taxes, & Daniel Wright in the State Series), LITH Marlowe (earned our respect at Antioch, requiring a Hail-Mary sweep of the final bonus to beat them), LZ North (upset special; from first-hand observation, NONE of the 4 schools in this regional looked really good in the past 10 days, but at least LZN reached their conference championship match)
Sectional B: Westview Hills, New Lenox Liberty, Burbank Liberty (upset special, just because), Channahon
Sectional C: Coal City, Streator Northlawn, Ottawa Shepherd (Mendota Northbrook seeded over Shepherd? Stop it. Just stop it.), DeKalb Huntley
Sectional D: Champaign Jefferson, Danville North Ridge, Rantoul Eater (upset special), Bourbannais UGC
Sectional E: Pekin Broadmoor, Washington MS, Dunlap Valley MS (upset special; but not really since they just won the county tourney), Macomb (defending state champ seeded 5? RU kidding me?)
Sectional F: Rochester, Springfield Frankln, Mt. Zion, Bloomington JHS (upset special; OK, it's a reach, but Blue Mound & Clinton are TINY)
Sectional G: Triad, Litchfield, Staunton, Jacksonville Turner (all chalk here)
Sectional H: Charleston, Assumption A&M, Mt. Carmel, Taylorville (gotta back my boy, Russ Birch)
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Post by Stephen Colbert » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:12 am

CLASS A
Sectional A:Sterling St. Mary's, Ottawa Wallace, Rockford Holy Family, St. Columba
Sectional B: Flanagan, Woodland, Metamora St. Mary's, Lostant
Sectional C: Peoria Academy, Bradford, Peoria Norwood, Peoria Heights
Sectional D: Paris Crestwood, Champaign St. Matthew, Catlin, Piper City Tri-Point
Sectional E: Bloomington Holy Trinity, Metcalf, Washington St. Patrick, Decatur Lutheran
Sectional F: Astoria, Carrollton, Carthage, Avon
Sectional G: Springfield Christ the King, Springfield St. Joseph, Columbia ICS, Girard
Sectional H: Effingham St. Anthony, Altamont, Effingham Sacred Heart, Geff

CLASS AA:
Sectional A: Barrington Station, Daniel Wright, Marlowe, Cary
Sectional B: Willowbrook Westview Hills, Frankfort Summit Hill, Lemont Old Quarry, Channahon
Sectional C: Morris Shabbona, Northlawn, Ottawa Shepherd, Rockford Washington
Sectional D: Champaign Jefferson, Westville, Champaign Franklin, Bourbonnais
Sectional E: Morton, Washington, Dunlap, Macomb
Sectional F: Rochester, Springfield Franklin, Mt. Zion, Bloomington
Sectional G: St. Jacob Triad, Litchfield, Staunton, Quincy
Sectional H: Charleston, Assumption Central, Newton Jasper County, Taylorville

At least 95% of this is entirely guesswork.
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Re: IESA Regional Tourney Prognostication

Post by the return of AHAN » Sat May 02, 2009 9:17 pm

Woody Paige wrote:OK, so we're just a few days away from IESA Regionals, so I thought I'd share my predictions:
Class A:
Sectional A: Sterling St. Mary's, Ottawa Wallace, Palatine Quest (upset special) Lindenhurst Millburn West, Ottawa St. ColumbaNewark Lisbon
Sectional B: R-B, Streator Woodland, Tonica (upset special, because I once a had a drink in a bar there)Metamora St. Mary's, Lostant
Sectional C: Peoria AcademyPeoria Limestone Walters, BradfordElmwood, Bartonville Monroe (upset special, but can a 2-time State champ ever be considered an upset?), Sparland Midland
Sectional D: Paris Crestwood, Champaign St. Matthew, CatlinArthur, Piper City Tri-Point
Sectional E: Holy Trinity, Bloomington Cornerstone (don't care if they are a 5 seed, they're the defending champs), Washington St. Patrick's, Illiopolis Sangamon Valley Mason City Illini
Sectional F: AstoriaLewistown Central, Carrollton (as a former resident of those parts, seriously? the 2 seed?), Mendon Unity, Bushnell PrairieCuba
Sectional G: Buffalo Tri-CitySpringfield Christ the King, Springfield Our Savior, Aviston (yeah! Tiny Aviston! A small school that always wanted to battle the big schools when I coached down there!), Raymond Lincolnwood (upset special; another Class A school that sought out the AA schools, even if it meant getting the heads kicked in)
Sectional H: Effingham St. Anthony, Altamont Beecher City, Neoga, Geff Newton St. Thomas (yes, all chalk here)
Me: 20 correct out of 32
Hollinsaid: 13 correct out of 32 :cool:

Class AA (the schools I really do have business picking)
Sectional A: Barrington Station (what? pick against my own kids?), L'Shire Daniel Wright (death, taxes, & Daniel Wright in the State Series), LITH Marlowe (earned our respect at Antioch, requiring a Hail-Mary sweep of the final bonus to beat them) Wauconda, LZ North (upset special; from first-hand observation, NONE of the 4 schools in this regional looked really good in the past 10 days, but at least LZN reached their conference championship match)Cary JHS
Sectional B: Westview Hills, New Lenox Liberty New Lenox Martino, Burbank Liberty (upset special, just because), LemontChannahon Minooka
Sectional C: Coal City, Streator Northlawn, Ottawa Shepherd (Mendota Northbrook seeded over Shepherd? Stop it. Just stop it.)Peru Washington, DeKalb HuntleySycamore
Sectional D: Champaign Jefferson Forrest Prairie Central, Danville North Ridge, Rantoul Eater (upset special),, Mahomet SeymourBourbannais UGC
Sectional E: Pekin BroadmoorMackinaw Dee-Mack, Washington MS Metamora, Dunlap Valley MS (upset special; but not really since they just won the county tourney), DunlapMacomb (defending state champ seeded 5? RU kidding me?)
Sectional F: Rochester, Springfield Frankln, Mt. Zion,SPringfield Lincoln Bloomington JHS (upset special; OK, it's a reach, but Blue Mound & Clinton are TINY)Downs Tri-Valley (speaking of tiny...
Sectional G: Triad, Litchfield, Staunton, Jacksonville Turner (all chalk here)
Sectional H: Charleston, Assumption A&M, Mt. Carmel,Robinson Nuttall Taylorville (gotta back my boy, Russ Birch)
Me: 17 correct out of 32...
Hollinsaid : 17 out of 32
So much for my theory of knowing Class AA better than Class A :smile:
Apparently, if this coaching at Station Campus thing doesn't work out, I've got a future handicapping "small school" scholastic bowl competitions.

I see three Class A #1 seeds and one Class AA top seed (Champaign Jefferson in an unseeded field) failed to survive regionals. What do you make of that? Poor seeding? Or is there such an issue with the State Series questions that they don't let the top tier programs differentiate themselves? Considering that I work so much with my kids on sets that AREN'T Questions Galore (ask Egan & Laudermith what I was practicing with when they arrived Wednesday), while the only time Daniel Wright played on sets OTHER than QG this year, was the two times we beat them. :shock: I'm wondering if our success against them at Jr Wildcat and Barrington Tournaments was simply the product of playing them on pyramidal questions; a luxury we won't have on Monday. :aaa:
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Re: IESA Regional Tourney Prognostication

Post by Tegan » Sat May 02, 2009 11:33 pm

Woody Paige wrote:What do you make of that? Poor seeding? Or is there such an issue with the State Series questions that they don't let the top tier programs differentiate themselves? Considering that I work so much with my kids on sets that AREN'T Questions Galore (ask Egan & Laudermith what I was practicing with when they arrived Wednesday), while the only time Daniel Wright played on sets OTHER than QG this year, was the two times we beat them. :shock: I'm wondering if our success against them at Jr Wildcat and Barrington Tournaments was simply the product of playing them on pyramidal questions; a luxury we won't have on Monday. :aaa:
Yeah .... I'm not sure if practicing your 8th graders on HAVOC is a great way to get ready for playing QG .....

It could be a lot of things:
1. bad seeding ... back when the IHSA started seeding, there were shenanigans galore (no pun intended) ... one host insisted on a secret ballot that only he would tally, and shockingly got the #1 seed (Lyons also declared that the Sectional would be run on "West Suburban Conference Rules" and not IHSA rules. Surprisingly, they won the sectional. David Riley tells the story about a bunch of North Suburban Conference coaches that all seeded New Trier near the bottom of the sectional one year because "we didn't see them play". One Central Suburban League school in particular has a bad reputation with other coaches of seeding/voting All-State in recent years. There is another coach of a team which plays in a very week conference that seeds very strangely when he shows up to seed. Could coaches be seeding their friends/fellow conference schools higher and/or seeding down teams that are better, or just doing very weird things like seeding teams based on the shade of red they wear? I know it happens, and it very well could be.

2. Questions: the whole point regarding good questions (pyramidal questions that are not hoses) is because doing so works heavily against the team that knows their stuff. This is why so many people who genuinely care about hard working teams/players/coaches fight for better questions .... and this is exactly why question writers like Questions Galore are embraced by teams that are not typically talented and/or hard working. Hose questions force result in better teams coming in early and getting the question wrong, or force them to hold off and turn the question into a buzzer race, greatly slanting the edge toward the less talented/lazier team. Frankly, if the IESA is going to stick with QG or similar writers, then what is the point to seeding in the first place? It might mean that the stronger team can crush a really bad team early, but the moment that two relatively equal teams start playing (and with the sadly necessary geographic assignment of teams, this can happen a lot sooner than it should), it would go quicker and have about the same outcome if the moderator pulled out the D and D dice and started rolling to decide who gets points.

Having seen the IHSA results of the last few years, I wouldn't necessarily call in the dogs and put out the fire yet. Teams like Auburn, Carbondale, Loyola, New Trier, and others have been increasing the number of matches that are played on strictly great questions. They get to the IHSA playoffs, and they manage to pulverize the rest of the teams who don' (this is, ironically, exactly what I said would happen last year at the Adco, and the people against switching to a more national format were certain it wouldn't). It will continue to happen until the change is made, barring the rare moments when some truly unique players comes up on a bad team (Niles North had an outstanding player on their team, and was routinely beat by teams who, according to most, were inferior, but played more matches on national formatted questions/tournaments).

On the other hand:

I'm not going to sit here and claim that the IHSA questions are the pinnacle of anything. However, the IHSA questions are parsecs beyond where the IESA questions are (not to mention, there are rules in place to protect teams against hoses). IMO, the questions/rules are usually satisfactory enough to not cause too many skewed results, provided everything else is fine (note: I am not saying zero skewed results .... not claiming that at all ... 2009 in particular was not very good). The IESA questions cannot make that claim based on how they are written.

I'm just sayin'.

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Post by the return of AHAN » Thu May 07, 2009 10:54 pm

May as well....

Class A:
Bloomington Holy Trinity 3-0
Aviston 2-1
Effingham St. Anthony 1-2
Carrollton 0-3

Paris Crestwood 3-0
Metamora St. Mary's 2-1
Peoria Limestone Walters 1-2
Newark Lisbon 0-3

FINALS: Holy Trinity 221, Paris Crestwood 195
3rd PLACE: Aviston 240, Metamora St. Mary's 158

Class AA:
Rochester 2-1
Charleston 2-1
Willowbrook Westview Hills 1-2
Danville North Ridge 1-2

Lincolnshire Danniel Wright 3-0
Macomb 2-1
Sycamore 1-2
Jacksonville Turner 0-3

FINALS: Lincolnshire Daniel Wright 307, Rochester 183
3rd PLACE: Charleston 265, Macomb 220
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Post by the return of AHAN » Fri May 08, 2009 11:31 pm

I had 7 out of the 8 teams correct insofar as who was taking a trophy...

Class A Results
CHAMPIONSHIP
Metamora St. Mary's 172, Bloomington Holy Trinity 90
3rd PLACE
Paris Crestwood 252, Effingham St. Anthony 164


So I had BHT and Crestwood one spot too high, and Metamora St. Mary 3 spots too low; Aviston was my only misplaced finalist.

Class AA Results
CHAMPIONSHIP
Macomb 293, Rochester 226 (nailed it on Rochester, but once again, my pick for 4th place took it all)
Lincolnshire Daniel Wright 272, Charleston 174

I was right about Wright winning their final game, I just didn't think they'd fall to Macomb again. And Charleston was a spot too high on my picks.
I wouldn't have been surprised to see Daniel Wright win it all again, because that's what they do. OTOH, knowing how great their state championship teams were, I knew this team wasn't up to that same standard... Take that for what it's worth.

Now, about that Macomb team... the last two schools to win back-to-back state championsip were Rockford West, which had a common denominator of Siva Sundaram and Michael Jiang on those teams, and Lincolnshire Daniel Wright, which had one Zach Blumenfeld captaining in both years. Just who, exactly, is this beast of a player for Macomb leading them to consecutive State titles? Or has Macomb simply unlocked the secret to playing Questions Galore and would got smashed playing any other question writer?
I'm determined to find out...
:grin:
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Post by Scobowls and Speedos » Fri May 08, 2009 11:41 pm

It looks like DW and Macomb were fairly evenly matched, and it's a pity my alma mater couldn't pull one off here. But good job by Macomb, becoming the 3rd consecutive AA team to win back-to-back titles (although their final scores aren't reminiscent of a truly dominant team).
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Post by No Electricity Required » Thu May 21, 2009 5:21 pm

Woody Paige wrote:I had 7 out of the 8 teams correct insofar as who was taking a trophy...

Class A Results
CHAMPIONSHIP
Metamora St. Mary's 172, Bloomington Holy Trinity 90
3rd PLACE
Paris Crestwood 252, Effingham St. Anthony 164


So I had BHT and Crestwood one spot too high, and Metamora St. Mary 3 spots too low; Aviston was my only misplaced finalist.

Class AA Results
CHAMPIONSHIP
Macomb 293, Rochester 226 (nailed it on Rochester, but once again, my pick for 4th place took it all)
Lincolnshire Daniel Wright 272, Charleston 174

I was right about Wright winning their final game, I just didn't think they'd fall to Macomb again. And Charleston was a spot too high on my picks.
I wouldn't have been surprised to see Daniel Wright win it all again, because that's what they do. OTOH, knowing how great their state championship teams were, I knew this team wasn't up to that same standard... Take that for what it's worth.

Now, about that Macomb team... the last two schools to win back-to-back state championsip were Rockford West, which had a common denominator of Siva Sundaram and Michael Jiang on those teams, and Lincolnshire Daniel Wright, which had one Zach Blumenfeld captaining in both years. Just who, exactly, is this beast of a player for Macomb leading them to consecutive State titles? Or has Macomb simply unlocked the secret to playing Questions Galore and would got smashed playing any other question writer?
I'm determined to find out...
:grin:
I'm assuming you haven't yet found out who the "beast of a player" is. Well, I'm Tristan Willey, captain of the Macomb Jr. High Scholastic Bowl team. Last year I lead my team along with, then captain, Stephen Lane, this year I did most of it myself (I don't want to brag, but its the reality), but we couldn't have beaten Daniel Wright had it not been for the help of our number two guy, Raymond Chong. No, we don't win because we have unlocked the secret to question galore's horrid questions.

Zach, being dominant doesn't mean slaughtering everyone you play. Being dominant is being able to play and beat almost everyone easily, when only the best of the best can challenge you. My team did this for two years, so I don't think the scores are really that important; besides its not like we had class A championship quality scores.
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Post by Stephen Colbert » Sat May 23, 2009 8:29 pm

Tristan,

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your consecutive state championships. If your team has tired of playing Questions Galore, I'd encourage you to speak with your coach (even if you'll be in high school next year) about playing at some higher quality tournaments, like Northwestern's Jr. Wildcat or the Barrington Invitational Tournament. For what it's worth, I'm not sure Zach needs a lecture on what it means to be dominant. However, if your team is truly interested in playing the best of the best, then I look forward to seeing Macomb (and several other powerhouse teams from the area) as more active participants in the tournament circuit. Again, congratulations on your victories, horrid questions or not, I'm sure it was no easy feat. Lastly, while this and last year's state tournament scores may reflect it, dominance is not necessarily a phenomenon unique to Class AA schools.
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Post by the return of AHAN » Sat May 23, 2009 8:54 pm

T287 wrote: I'm assuming you haven't yet found out who the "beast of a player" is. Well, I'm Tristan Willey, captain of the Macomb Jr. High Scholastic Bowl team. Last year I lead my team along with, then captain, Stephen Lane, this year I did most of it myself (I don't want to brag, but its the reality), but we couldn't have beaten Daniel Wright had it not been for the help of our number two guy, Raymond Chong. No, we don't win because we have unlocked the secret to question galore's horrid questions.

Zach, being dominant doesn't mean slaughtering everyone you play. Being dominant is being able to play and beat almost everyone easily, when only the best of the best can challenge you. My team did this for two years, so I don't think the scores are really that important; besides its not like we had class A championship quality scores.
Tristan,
I'll echo Mr. Hollinsaid's welcome to the wider world of quizbowl. Seeing as you describe QG as horrid, you'll fit right in here! :wink:
So, I gather then that you will be playing Frosh/Soph for Macomb next year, no? Barrington HS frosh/soph would love to get a chance to play you next year and our team is willing to travel, having driven 3 hours to the Moline Tourney last fall. The questions at that one were Patrick's Press, but that didn't stop Rockford Auburn from mopping up. Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you let me know what tourneys your team will be attending when you find that out.
As for this past season, can you explain how your team was seeded #5? I know it was a strong sectional but who did you lose to this year? What was your school's overall 'A' team record?
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Post by Stephen Colbert » Sun May 24, 2009 2:26 am

Woody Paige wrote:Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you let me know what tourneys your team will be attending when you find that out.
If I recall correctly, I believe Macomb won the frosh/soph division of Springfield High School's tournament. However, I believe the questions were the same as those written for Rockford Auburn's Frosh/Soph tournament (has this set been posted anywhere, as I'd love to get my hands on some more quality frosh/soph questions). Granted, you could probably get equally strong (likely better) competition attending the real deal at Auburn.
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Post by No Electricity Required » Sun May 24, 2009 6:13 pm

Woody Paige wrote:
T287 wrote: I'm assuming you haven't yet found out who the "beast of a player" is. Well, I'm Tristan Willey, captain of the Macomb Jr. High Scholastic Bowl team. Last year I lead my team along with, then captain, Stephen Lane, this year I did most of it myself (I don't want to brag, but its the reality), but we couldn't have beaten Daniel Wright had it not been for the help of our number two guy, Raymond Chong. No, we don't win because we have unlocked the secret to question galore's horrid questions.

Zach, being dominant doesn't mean slaughtering everyone you play. Being dominant is being able to play and beat almost everyone easily, when only the best of the best can challenge you. My team did this for two years, so I don't think the scores are really that important; besides its not like we had class A championship quality scores.
Tristan,
I'll echo Mr. Hollinsaid's welcome to the wider world of quizbowl. Seeing as you describe QG as horrid, you'll fit right in here! :wink:
So, I gather then that you will be playing Frosh/Soph for Macomb next year, no? Barrington HS frosh/soph would love to get a chance to play you next year and our team is willing to travel, having driven 3 hours to the Moline Tourney last fall. The questions at that one were Patrick's Press, but that didn't stop Rockford Auburn from mopping up. Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you let me know what tourneys your team will be attending when you find that out.
As for this past season, can you explain how your team was seeded #5? I know it was a strong sectional but who did you lose to this year? What was your school's overall 'A' team record?
What I will be playing next year is still up for debate. My school is fairly small (we're class A in high school), so I'm hoping that I will be on the Varsity team, that's what Stephen did. I would very much like to play Barrington's team, and I'll be sure to tell you when I find out what tourneys we'll be in.
My team's low seeding is do to the fact that we play very few matches in a season (we didn't even compete in any tourneys). So, we hadn't played enough by the seeding time to get a higher seed. At regular season's end we had only played nine matches (one got canceled), all of which we won; our hardest opponent was Jacksonville, who we played in our first match when we weren't at our best yet, so we won 286-243, much different than at state.
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Re: IESA State Tourney Prognostication & Results

Post by Irreligion in Bangladesh » Mon May 25, 2009 12:30 am

T287 wrote:
Woody Paige wrote:
T287 wrote: I'm assuming you haven't yet found out who the "beast of a player" is. Well, I'm Tristan Willey, captain of the Macomb Jr. High Scholastic Bowl team. Last year I lead my team along with, then captain, Stephen Lane, this year I did most of it myself (I don't want to brag, but its the reality), but we couldn't have beaten Daniel Wright had it not been for the help of our number two guy, Raymond Chong. No, we don't win because we have unlocked the secret to question galore's horrid questions.

Zach, being dominant doesn't mean slaughtering everyone you play. Being dominant is being able to play and beat almost everyone easily, when only the best of the best can challenge you. My team did this for two years, so I don't think the scores are really that important; besides its not like we had class A championship quality scores.
Tristan,
I'll echo Mr. Hollinsaid's welcome to the wider world of quizbowl. Seeing as you describe QG as horrid, you'll fit right in here! :wink:
So, I gather then that you will be playing Frosh/Soph for Macomb next year, no? Barrington HS frosh/soph would love to get a chance to play you next year and our team is willing to travel, having driven 3 hours to the Moline Tourney last fall. The questions at that one were Patrick's Press, but that didn't stop Rockford Auburn from mopping up. Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you let me know what tourneys your team will be attending when you find that out.
As for this past season, can you explain how your team was seeded #5? I know it was a strong sectional but who did you lose to this year? What was your school's overall 'A' team record?
What I will be playing next year is still up for debate. My school is fairly small (we're class A in high school), so I'm hoping that I will be on the Varsity team, that's what Stephen did. I would very much like to play Barrington's team, and I'll be sure to tell you when I find out what tourneys we'll be in.
My team's low seeding is do to the fact that we play very few matches in a season (we didn't even compete in any tourneys). So, we hadn't played enough by the seeding time to get a higher seed. At regular season's end we had only played nine matches (one got canceled), all of which we won; our hardest opponent was Jacksonville, who we played in our first match when we weren't at our best yet, so we won 286-243, much different than at state.
It might be easier than it sounds, but if you aren't playing Varsity next year, try convincing whoever needs to be convinced to take the Fresh-Soph as Macomb B to good Varsity tournaments, especially Kickoff in November. (Actually, do this even if you are on Varsity :grin: )
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Post by the return of AHAN » Mon May 25, 2009 10:13 pm

T287 wrote:
Woody Paige wrote:
T287 wrote: I'm assuming you haven't yet found out who the "beast of a player" is. Well, I'm Tristan Willey, captain of the Macomb Jr. High Scholastic Bowl team. Last year I lead my team along with, then captain, Stephen Lane, this year I did most of it myself (I don't want to brag, but its the reality), but we couldn't have beaten Daniel Wright had it not been for the help of our number two guy, Raymond Chong. No, we don't win because we have unlocked the secret to question galore's horrid questions.

Zach, being dominant doesn't mean slaughtering everyone you play. Being dominant is being able to play and beat almost everyone easily, when only the best of the best can challenge you. My team did this for two years, so I don't think the scores are really that important; besides its not like we had class A championship quality scores.
Tristan,
I'll echo Mr. Hollinsaid's welcome to the wider world of quizbowl. Seeing as you describe QG as horrid, you'll fit right in here! :wink:
So, I gather then that you will be playing Frosh/Soph for Macomb next year, no? Barrington HS frosh/soph would love to get a chance to play you next year and our team is willing to travel, having driven 3 hours to the Moline Tourney last fall. The questions at that one were Patrick's Press, but that didn't stop Rockford Auburn from mopping up. Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you let me know what tourneys your team will be attending when you find that out.
As for this past season, can you explain how your team was seeded #5? I know it was a strong sectional but who did you lose to this year? What was your school's overall 'A' team record?
What I will be playing next year is still up for debate. My school is fairly small (we're class A in high school), so I'm hoping that I will be on the Varsity team, that's what Stephen did. I would very much like to play Barrington's team, and I'll be sure to tell you when I find out what tourneys we'll be in.
My team's low seeding is do to the fact that we play very few matches in a season (we didn't even compete in any tourneys). So, we hadn't played enough by the seeding time to get a higher seed. At regular season's end we had only played nine matches (one got canceled), all of which we won; our hardest opponent was Jacksonville, who we played in our first match when we weren't at our best yet, so we won 286-243, much different than at state.
I sent a congratulatory e-mail to your coach after the state finals and extended an invite to next year's incarnation of the Barrington Invitational. I got no response whatsoever. We played Jacksonville Turner at the Streator Northlawn Tournament in early March, where we entered two teams. That page doesn't include the State Series results yet. I've been too lazy since the season ended!
Jeff Price, Barrington Station Middle School Coach (2013 MSNCT Champions, 2013 & 2017 Illinois Class AA State Champions)
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