I like the way this man thinks.Volvo Effect wrote:People, just man up and blow off your graduation to play quizbowl. I totally did it, and it was worth it.
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Just to add a different (and older) thought here...
In the grand scheme of things, your high school graduation probably doesn't mean much.....but it might mean a lot to your relations, just consider them before you make any decisions.
In the grand scheme of things, your high school graduation probably doesn't mean much.....but it might mean a lot to your relations, just consider them before you make any decisions.
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As would winning or placing highly at a national championship, which a GDS/St. Anslem's DC NASAT team is likely to do.David Riley wrote:Just to add a different (and older) thought here...
In the grand scheme of things, your high school graduation probably doesn't mean much.....but it might mean a lot to your relations, just consider them before you make any decisions.
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People, just man up and blow off your relations to play quizbowl. I might have to do it, and it will be worth it.
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Riley is (unfortunately) 100% correct. Graduation usually means nothing to the son/daughter and everything to the (grand) parents. And since you still live under your parent's roofs, you gotta deal with it. My parents came to many of my high school quizbowl tournaments, but made me miss the middle rounds of HSNCT to graduate.
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Perhaps it's because I'm not that into quizbowl, but it seems to me that the ceremony of graduation is quite a momentous event not only for you but for your parents, your relatives, and your friends. I personally will never get close to winning a national championship in quizbowl (hell, anything) so I won't know how important competing in this would be for some people. But, blowing graduation off to play some trite game seems odd in my opinion. I think it's important to go through that ceremony with all your friends together--being able to do one last thing as a class; but again, quizbowl might be more important to some people. I guess, in the end, it's a matter of what will be remembered more fondly in the long term.
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You need to get your priorities in order. Quizbowl comes before all.Arsonists Get All the Girls wrote:Perhaps it's because I'm not that into quizbowl, but it seems to me that the ceremony of graduation is quite a momentous event not only for you but for your parents, your relatives, and your friends. I personally will never get close to winning a national championship in quizbowl (hell, anything) so I won't know how important competing in this would be for some people. But, blowing graduation off to play some trite game seems odd in my opinion. I think it's important to go through that ceremony with all your friends together--being able to do one last thing as a class; but again, quizbowl might be more important to some people. I guess, in the end, it's a matter of what will be remembered more fondly in the long term.
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Hey dude, you never know when one will totally just fall from the sky into your lap.Arsonists Get All the Girls wrote:I personally will never get close to winning a national championship in quizbowl
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People should definitely consider relations here, especially since most of us wouldn't be where we are without them. I would have blown off quizbowl for my graduation, because I have some relatives who never got the chance to go to high school, and it's definitely a big deal to them when one of us graduates high school. That's just my situation though.
If your family couldn't care less whether you go to graduation or not, then you'd have probably have more incentive to choose quizbowl. But if you really want to go your graduation, don't let quizbowl people pressure you into missing it.
If your family couldn't care less whether you go to graduation or not, then you'd have probably have more incentive to choose quizbowl. But if you really want to go your graduation, don't let quizbowl people pressure you into missing it.
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I'll say this: i would never ever seriously ask any of my A Team seniors to skip their graduation to go to a national tournament. They told me they wouldn't do it anyway before i ever really brought it up. So we can't go to PACE this year. Walking up there to get your diploma in front of your family, friends, and community is, in my opinion, so much more important.
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I'll suggest a few things here:
1) Each person's and family's values are their own, and debating some certainly nonexistent single standard about this quandary on an Internet forum is probably not productive.
2) It's probably a good idea for people to try to work out solutions that don't require missing either event that they wish to participate in. For those graduating in the middle of the weekend, a choice is necessary. For those graduating on Friday, the tournament doesn't start until Saturday morning, and Nashville is a major city with a well-served airport (as are Chicago and Washington, for those whose graduations are close to HSNCT or NSC).
1) Each person's and family's values are their own, and debating some certainly nonexistent single standard about this quandary on an Internet forum is probably not productive.
2) It's probably a good idea for people to try to work out solutions that don't require missing either event that they wish to participate in. For those graduating in the middle of the weekend, a choice is necessary. For those graduating on Friday, the tournament doesn't start until Saturday morning, and Nashville is a major city with a well-served airport (as are Chicago and Washington, for those whose graduations are close to HSNCT or NSC).
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Matt's 100% right here. Find out what your options are (they are probably many) and choose what's important to you.
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The West Virginia Academic Coaches Association informed me that they unanimously decided to not send a team to this.
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Woah, any particular reason? Finances, or do they object to the idea, or what?FredMorlan wrote:The West Virginia Academic Coaches Association informed me that they unanimously decided to not send a team to this.
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The president of the organization did not detail why. I only drafted a plan to get it funded, and they decided to not do it.Aldo Montoya wrote:Woah, any particular reason? Finances, or do they object to the idea, or what?FredMorlan wrote:The West Virginia Academic Coaches Association informed me that they unanimously decided to not send a team to this.
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I'll bet those squirrels are responsible and made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
Seriously though, that's too bad, I' was hoping for representation from as many states as possible.
Seriously though, that's too bad, I' was hoping for representation from as many states as possible.
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What do you think would be a good way to get statewide selection (maybe tryouts, I hope not T_T) in Minnesota?
Should I contact the Dep. of Education to see if I can get them interested? Or should I just go to R. Hentzel for his opinion?
From what I've researched, MN has sent a team to PAC before but that was once and we didn't do that well...
Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Should I contact the Dep. of Education to see if I can get them interested? Or should I just go to R. Hentzel for his opinion?
From what I've researched, MN has sent a team to PAC before but that was once and we didn't do that well...
Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I'd contact R. or the U of Minnesota to see if they'd be interested in getting a tryout tournament available or something along those lines. Luckily for us, Ohio State is doing this for Ohio.future wrote:What do you think would be a good way to get statewide selection (maybe tryouts, I hope not T_T) in Minnesota?
Should I contact the Dep. of Education to see if I can get them interested? Or should I just go to R. Hentzel for his opinion?
From what I've researched, MN has sent a team to PAC before but that was once and we didn't do that well...
Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Hey,Inkana7 wrote: I'd contact R. or the U of Minnesota to see if they'd be interested in getting a tryout tournament available or something along those lines. Luckily for us, Ohio State is doing this for Ohio.
I like your suggestion and I will look into the possibility of doing this.
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That sounds pretty cool. How are other states running these (i.e., what questions)?
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Just a thought: given that DC has very few schools regularly involved in circuit quizbowl, and that GDS has graduation that day, would HSAPQ consider merging the DC and Maryland teams? Is there some strong reason not to do this?
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It would create an awesome team.Journey to the Planets wrote:Just a thought: given that DC has very few schools regularly involved in circuit quizbowl, and that GDS has graduation that day, would HSAPQ consider merging the DC and Maryland teams? Is there some strong reason not to do this?
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Well, as an outsider, I think I can answer that. Beyond the fact that DC and Maryland are different polities*, Maryland has Blake, Richard Montgomery, Walt Whitman & Walter Johnson, and D.C. has Georgetown Day School, Gonzaga College and St. Anselm's. I think very good teams can be formed from those few schools.
West Virginia has very few schools involved in circuit quiz bowl. Ditto New Mexico. Same with Azerbaijan. Why not form a Washington D.C./West Virginia/New Mexico/Azerbaijan team?
*Now everyone in quiz bowl has used that word. Let's stop.
West Virginia has very few schools involved in circuit quiz bowl. Ditto New Mexico. Same with Azerbaijan. Why not form a Washington D.C./West Virginia/New Mexico/Azerbaijan team?
*Now everyone in quiz bowl has used that word. Let's stop.
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The problem is that Gonzaga has verbally expressed a reluctance to travel anywhere more than an hour away this year(hence their absence from QuAC, both VCU tournaments, and GSAC). Most of GDS's team is unavailable that weekend due to graduation (Matt J. can certainly correct me on this, but I was under the impression that GDS A was made up completely of seniors). I'm uncertain of how much support (financially and quizbowl...ly...) St. Anselm's can get for this tournament as it stands.FredMorlan wrote:Well, as an outsider, I think I can answer that. Beyond the fact that DC and Maryland are different polities*, Maryland has Blake, Richard Montgomery, Walt Whitman & Walter Johnson, and D.C. has Georgetown Day School, Gonzaga College and St. Anselm's. I think very good teams can be formed from those few schools.
West Virginia has very few schools involved in circuit quiz bowl. Ditto New Mexico. Same with Azerbaijan. Why not form a Washington D.C./West Virginia/New Mexico/Azerbaijan team?
*Now everyone in quiz bowl has used that word. Let's stop.
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The other thing that Matt hasn't mentioned is that it's hard to say that there is a "Maryland" or "DC" circuit distinct from the larger DC area circuit like there is a distinct Illinois circuit. At RM's tournament this fall, for instance, 40% of the attending schools and 60% of the attending teams were not from MD. If the different states is a deal-breaker, one possible compromise would be to have a separate DC team but allow DC people to play on the Maryland team instead.Journey to the Planets wrote:The problem is that Gonzaga has verbally expressed a reluctance to travel anywhere more than an hour away this year(hence their absence from QuAC, both VCU tournaments, and GSAC). Most of GDS's team is unavailable that weekend due to graduation (Matt J. can certainly correct me on this, but I was under the impression that GDS A was made up completely of seniors). I'm uncertain of how much support (financially and quizbowl...ly...) St. Anselm's can get for this tournament as it stands.FredMorlan wrote:Well, as an outsider, I think I can answer that. Beyond the fact that DC and Maryland are different polities*, Maryland has Blake, Richard Montgomery, Walt Whitman & Walter Johnson, and D.C. has Georgetown Day School, Gonzaga College and St. Anselm's. I think very good teams can be formed from those few schools.
West Virginia has very few schools involved in circuit quiz bowl. Ditto New Mexico. Same with Azerbaijan. Why not form a Washington D.C./West Virginia/New Mexico/Azerbaijan team?
*Now everyone in quiz bowl has used that word. Let's stop.
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And so the reason to combine DC and Maryland's teams is... because DC's team won't be a world-beater? Why don't we combine Virginia and Montana, too? If people don't want to come to tournaments or have to graduate or don't have "support," that's a shame, but I imagine HSAPQ is going to make decisions independent of a single region's ability to attend at full strength.Journey to the Planets wrote:The problem is that Gonzaga has verbally expressed a reluctance to travel anywhere more than an hour away this year(hence their absence from QuAC, both VCU tournaments, and GSAC). Most of GDS's team is unavailable that weekend due to graduation (Matt J. can certainly correct me on this, but I was under the impression that GDS A was made up completely of seniors). I'm uncertain of how much support (financially and quizbowl...ly...) St. Anselm's can get for this tournament as it stands.
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Yeah, I don't think this will fly. Besides, Matt, you could always legitimately join Virginia [please don't.]
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Well, not exactly. Let's look at the situation:Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:And so the reason to combine DC and Maryland's teams is... because DC's team won't be a world-beater? Why don't we combine Virginia and Montana, too? If people don't want to come to tournaments or have to graduate or don't have "support," that's a shame, but I imagine HSAPQ is going to make decisions independent of a single region's ability to attend at full strength.Journey to the Planets wrote:The problem is that Gonzaga has verbally expressed a reluctance to travel anywhere more than an hour away this year(hence their absence from QuAC, both VCU tournaments, and GSAC). Most of GDS's team is unavailable that weekend due to graduation (Matt J. can certainly correct me on this, but I was under the impression that GDS A was made up completely of seniors). I'm uncertain of how much support (financially and quizbowl...ly...) St. Anselm's can get for this tournament as it stands.
1. Combining Virginia and Montana. Come on, this is a strawman. The "DC" and "MD" circuits are virtually identical. The Virginia and "Montana" circuits are not. Heck, the NAQT championship in the region has historically been the DC/MD state championship. Any separation of the "DC" and "MD" circuits is an artificial separation. Thus, I don't see why they should separate the "two" circuits into different teams unless there's some good reason.
Now, here's where I would separate these two "states" into different teams. Let's say that VA and CA were contiguous and had intertwining circuits. Both of these states have enough schools participating in good quizbowl to support a true All-Star team, and having a single team represent the circuit would not be necessary. In DC/MD, this situation is not true. The very fact that a couple of teams being unable to attend reduces the potential DC team so drastically speaks to this. A combined DC/MD team would better represent the reality of the circuit without causing undue problems.
Anyway, this is a proposition, not a "demand" (which would be ridiculous). I would just like to hear the reasoning behind separating the circuit into two teams.
EDIT: Actually, Isaac, I couldn't...
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
Journey to the Planets wrote:I would just like to hear the reasoning behind separating the circuit into two teams.
This seems to be the reasoning: the event is supposed to be a state all-star event, not a "circuit" all-star event or anything else.HSAPQ wrote:This tournament is intended for states seeking an all-star event.
And it's not like all other quizbowl circuits besides MD/DC are defined by state lines. All the tournaments I've been to this year have had teams from more than 1 state, and large ones like Brookwood and Chattahoochee attract teams from 4 states or more. If you allowed circuits to combine, it would be hard to define the boundaries for each team. State lines, on the other hand, are pretty much inarguable (except for those few miles between GA and TN).
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If this is to be a tournament between teams representing the best states or districts, then it should be that. It's unfortunate that DC wouldn't be able to put together the best team it could due to circumstances, but that's life.
And the argument of a limited number of schools available is unfortunate, but part of the terms of the tournament. Delaware's in the same boat.
And the argument of a limited number of schools available is unfortunate, but part of the terms of the tournament. Delaware's in the same boat.
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I'll say. DC has three great schools that play quizbowl... our whole state has two schools that travel out of state frequently to play, one school that might do so once or twice a year, and all the others that have never played or heard of anything pyramidal but NAQT in Wilmington-area tournaments.FredMorlan wrote:And the argument of a limited number of schools available is unfortunate, but part of the terms of the tournament. Delaware's in the same boat.
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We've asked a few other schools if they were interested in this tournament, so far there hasn't been too much (i.e. any) response... we'll keep asking, but would HSAPQ be horribly averse to State College as State Pennsylvania?
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An all-star team is an all-star team, I can't imagine it makes any difference whether you are from the same school or not if you are the best combination of 4 players from Pennsylvania.
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This is just a reminder that there will be no combining or splitting of states or state equivalents for the NASAT.
We would prefer that states hold a tryout or otherwise give interested players from other schools a fair chance to earn their way onto the team. That said, we will consider applications from a single school from a state on equal footing with other applications from that state. In other words, we will award the state's bid to the strongest proposed team, regardless of who is on that team.TheKingInYellow wrote:We've asked a few other schools if they were interested in this tournament, so far there hasn't been too much (i.e. any) response... we'll keep asking, but would HSAPQ be horribly averse to State College as State Pennsylvania?
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
The Midnight Rider wrote:This is just a reminder that there will be no combining or splitting of states or state equivalents for the NASAT.
We would prefer that states hold a tryout or otherwise give interested players from other schools a fair chance to earn their way onto the team. That said, we will consider applications from a single school from a state on equal footing with other applications from that state. In other words, we will award the state's bid to the strongest proposed team, regardless of who is on that team.TheKingInYellow wrote:We've asked a few other schools if they were interested in this tournament, so far there hasn't been too much (i.e. any) response... we'll keep asking, but would HSAPQ be horribly averse to State College as State Pennsylvania?
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
Well, the NorCal circuit and the SoCal circuit are 300+ miles away. It's basically impossible to create a team by combining the two circuits, because that would involve analyzing statistics from tournaments in which teams from both circuits played, and that would involve such tournaments having existed, and such tournaments have not, as a matter of fact, existed.Journey to the Planets wrote:The Midnight Rider wrote:This is just a reminder that there will be no combining or splitting of states or state equivalents for the NASAT.
We would prefer that states hold a tryout or otherwise give interested players from other schools a fair chance to earn their way onto the team. That said, we will consider applications from a single school from a state on equal footing with other applications from that state. In other words, we will award the state's bid to the strongest proposed team, regardless of who is on that team.TheKingInYellow wrote:We've asked a few other schools if they were interested in this tournament, so far there hasn't been too much (i.e. any) response... we'll keep asking, but would HSAPQ be horribly averse to State College as State Pennsylvania?
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The issue raised on the SoCal forums will probably resolve itself, since it's doubtful that NorCal will be able to put an entire team together if it is given the status of a separate polity. If it does end up being a combined team from SoCal and NorCal, I can think only a handful of players from NorCal that would be interested enough to fly out to Nashville and take part in this. I would totally put this up in the NorCal 09-10 forums to gauge interest, but only two schools use that anyway.
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
Unless that state-wide tournament thing in the spring happens, of course.tk447 wrote:Well, the NorCal circuit and the SoCal circuit are 300+ miles away. It's basically impossible to create a team by combining the two circuits, because that would involve analyzing statistics from tournaments in which teams from both circuits played, and that would involve such tournaments having existed, and such tournaments have not, as a matter of fact, existed.Journey to the Planets wrote:The Midnight Rider wrote:This is just a reminder that there will be no combining or splitting of states or state equivalents for the NASAT.
We would prefer that states hold a tryout or otherwise give interested players from other schools a fair chance to earn their way onto the team. That said, we will consider applications from a single school from a state on equal footing with other applications from that state. In other words, we will award the state's bid to the strongest proposed team, regardless of who is on that team.TheKingInYellow wrote:We've asked a few other schools if they were interested in this tournament, so far there hasn't been too much (i.e. any) response... we'll keep asking, but would HSAPQ be horribly averse to State College as State Pennsylvania?
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The issue raised on the SoCal forums will probably resolve itself, since it's doubtful that NorCal will be able to put an entire team together if it is given the status of a separate polity. If it does end up being a combined team from SoCal and NorCal, I can think only a handful of players from NorCal that would be interested enough to fly out to Nashville and take part in this. I would totally put this up in the NorCal 09-10 forums to gauge interest, but only two schools use that anyway.
Also, I was under the impression that splitting NorCal and SoCal was not an official thing, but rather mere speculation on the part of assorted California quizbowlers.
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
You guys should get orange jumpsuits for uniforms.TheKingInYellow wrote:We've asked a few other schools if they were interested in this tournament, so far there hasn't been too much (i.e. any) response... we'll keep asking, but would HSAPQ be horribly averse to State College as State Pennsylvania?
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
Yeah. This would be awesome. What's the status on this?gyre and gimble wrote: Unless that state-wide tournament thing in the spring happens, of course.
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
Assuming nobody has any problems with this, MAQT is happy to host tryouts/provide chaperons/assist in organizing and fund-raising for Maryland's team this year. In keeping with the spirit of how quizbowl should be, this won't be a big official deal with permission slips and ID badges and dna fingerprinting; we'd pretty much just be acting as the needed independent tryout agent, providing a supervising adult, and making sure the team has ways to get there/places to stay. We'll also explore getting some funding from the university for this, but no promises.
So, if this sounds good to everyone, we'll probably post some kind of announcement about this and send out emails. If anyone sees a potential problem with this, let me know. The exact person/people supervising this assured comedy of errors will be identified in the formal post about this (I suppose the Nationals subforum would be the appropriate place).
Oh yeah, one thing I wondered about: While combining DC and Maryland has no particular justification (they have independent school systems and what not, so it'd be no different than combining DC with Virginia or whatever), it does seem to me that, if DC doesn't field a team, a student who lives in Virginia or Maryland should be able to join the respective state team. Would HSAPQ have a problem with this? It doesn't seem like something that could cause a particular problem or encourage individuals to game the system; after all, it's only something that would arise if one state failed to send a team, and a resident of another state still wanted to try out.
So, if this sounds good to everyone, we'll probably post some kind of announcement about this and send out emails. If anyone sees a potential problem with this, let me know. The exact person/people supervising this assured comedy of errors will be identified in the formal post about this (I suppose the Nationals subforum would be the appropriate place).
Oh yeah, one thing I wondered about: While combining DC and Maryland has no particular justification (they have independent school systems and what not, so it'd be no different than combining DC with Virginia or whatever), it does seem to me that, if DC doesn't field a team, a student who lives in Virginia or Maryland should be able to join the respective state team. Would HSAPQ have a problem with this? It doesn't seem like something that could cause a particular problem or encourage individuals to game the system; after all, it's only something that would arise if one state failed to send a team, and a resident of another state still wanted to try out.
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
HSAPQ would not allow this. The teams are based entirely on where one's school is.DumbJaques wrote: Oh yeah, one thing I wondered about: While combining DC and Maryland has no particular justification (they have independent school systems and what not, so it'd be no different than combining DC with Virginia or whatever), it does seem to me that, if DC doesn't field a team, a student who lives in Virginia or Maryland should be able to join the respective state team. Would HSAPQ have a problem with this? It doesn't seem like something that could cause a particular problem or encourage individuals to game the system; after all, it's only something that would arise if one state failed to send a team, and a resident of another state still wanted to try out.
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
The orange jumpsuit uniform has been tried in Illinois. It didn't go over so well.nalin wrote:You guys should get orange jumpsuits for uniforms.TheKingInYellow wrote:We've asked a few other schools if they were interested in this tournament, so far there hasn't been too much (i.e. any) response... we'll keep asking, but would HSAPQ be horribly averse to State College as State Pennsylvania?
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
Team Florida will be dressed up literally as oranges.
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
A government arm not taking kindly to protests?Monk wrote:The orange jumpsuit uniform has been tried in Illinois. It didn't go over so well.nalin wrote:You guys should get orange jumpsuits for uniforms.TheKingInYellow wrote:We've asked a few other schools if they were interested in this tournament, so far there hasn't been too much (i.e. any) response... we'll keep asking, but would HSAPQ be horribly averse to State College as State Pennsylvania?
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
I posted about this in the Michigan thread so as to negate any possible confusion. At the NASAT, although teams are allowed to have up to 6 players on their rosters, this will be a normal 4 players-at-once tournament. Teams do not need to feel obligated to pay for alternates if they don't expect the alternates to get any playing time.
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
This past weekend, the top quiz bowl players in Ohio gathered at Ohio State to try out for "Team Ohio" at the HSAPQ National All Star Tournament. After 15 rounds of questions, selections have been made, and the following players will be submitted to HSAPQ for approval.
Jarret Greene (Captain)- South Range High School
Jim Coury- Olmsted Falls High School
Jasper Lee- Solon High School
Brandon Williams- Northmont High School
Catie Haas- Tippecanoe High School
Joe Nutter- Walnut Hills High School
The team will be coached by David Jones (Northmont) and Greg Bossick (Mahoning County League coordinator / NAQT Stat guru)
Jarret Greene (Captain)- South Range High School
Jim Coury- Olmsted Falls High School
Jasper Lee- Solon High School
Brandon Williams- Northmont High School
Catie Haas- Tippecanoe High School
Joe Nutter- Walnut Hills High School
The team will be coached by David Jones (Northmont) and Greg Bossick (Mahoning County League coordinator / NAQT Stat guru)
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
How many questions in the rounds, and how long did it take?
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
I think it was 26? The questions were tossups from NAQT Division 1 Sectionals of some recent year. It lasted from around 10-ish to close to 4 in the afternoon, if I can remember correctly.David Riley wrote:How many questions in the rounds, and how long did it take?
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Re: HSAPQ National All Star Academic Tournament in 2010
Jasper is correct. 26 questions per round, we wrapped up around 4.David Riley wrote:How many questions in the rounds, and how long did it take?
It is an honor to have been selected for this team and an even bigger one to be selected Captain.I look forward to playing with my teammates in Nashville!
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