TJIAT (10/17/09)

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Whitman, Blake, and GDS each have one slot held for them, so we're at 32 teams. We're going to try to increase the field to 36 or so, but it'll depend on whether we can get more rooms and moderators in time.
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reindeer wrote:Whitman, Blake, and GDS each have one slot held for them, so we're at 32 teams. We're going to try to increase the field to 36 or so, but it'll depend on whether we can get more rooms and moderators in time.
Like usual, if you need another moderator, you know you can count on me.
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Parkersburg High School's coach just told me that they are officially going to attend this.
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Re: TJIAT (10/17/09)

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Like usual, if you need another moderator, you know you can count on me.
Great, thanks. Right now you, Marshall, and James Madison are signed up to bring moderators, and we're looking forward to having your help. Unfortunately we will not be able to increase the field size, but there will be a waiting list for any more interested teams.
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Wait, what? So Whitman, Blake, and GDS have spots held for them, but we don't?
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Teams that don't register early for a tournament have to scramble to get in the field once they realize everyone else is signed up? Shocking!
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I mean it's not that I'm surprised that we have to scramble. I'm just surprised that the scramble has shaken out like this, my first impression was that I had said pretty similar things when compared to those three teams in terms of saying we're pretty sure that we can come.

That being said, after more carefully reading the posts, I should have posted again when they started asking for more final information. If nothing can be done, we'd like to be at least on the waitlist.
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Re: TJIAT (10/17/09)

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Ok guys, we've expanded the cap to 36 teams. This means that Whitman and GDS have spots available (did I leave anybody out?). So field update:

Registered (31):
Bishop Ireton
Caesar Rodney
Centennial (2)
Charlottesville
Churchill
Elizabeth Seton
George Mason
Marshall
Gonzaga
James Madison (2)
Robinson
Langley (2)
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Maggie Walker (2)
Parkersburg
RM (2)
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San Dimas (Blake) High School (1)
South County (2)
St. Anselms
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Walter Johnson HS (1)
Wilson
Woodson

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Whitman High School
Georgetown Day School
West Potomac High School?
Seton Hall Preparatory School

We will be keeping a waiting list, as 36 is our absolute cap.
Um yeah I think that's it. Please let me know if I did something incredibly idiotic.
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One registration for San Dimas High School, dudes.
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Aldo Montoya wrote:One registration for San Dimas High School, dudes.
You should receive a confirmation for this at falconpunch47 at aol dot com momentarily.

RE Walter Johnson: we have obtained two more rooms, so we can expand the field cap to 36. You are now on the "slots held" list, and may register.
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Seton Hall Prep is VERY interested in coming. Would you please "reserve" us a spot? I will give a definite answer by this time tomorrow.

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SHP Pirate wrote:Seton Hall Prep is VERY interested in coming. Would you please "reserve" us a spot? I will give a definite answer by this time tomorrow.

- MTZ
Done. Just to remind people, the most current list of signups can be found here: http://activities.tjhsst.edu/quizbowl/tjiat.php.
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Aldo Montoya wrote:One registration for San Dimas High School, dudes.
I will probably enjoy your pseudonyms even more at this tournament. Oh PLEASE pick some of the historical figures that were used during their final presentation!
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t-bar wrote: RE Walter Johnson: we have obtained two more rooms, so we can expand the field cap to 36. You are now on the "slots held" list, and may register.
Awesome dude, you just made my day =D
Sorry registering so late.
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If it's still possible at this point, GDS would like to bring exactly two (2) teams. Should we have more interested people, we'll substitute at halftime or contribute to a SCAB team.
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If/when Seton Hall and West Potomac both sign up, we'll have reached our cap of 36 teams. However, we just found out that Churchill may or may not be able to come, which means that we might have another spot open. Would any team like to be put on a waiting list? We should know by Wednesday whether or not they'll be coming.
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Hey, just a heads up for everyone: due to our limited cash supply, we can't provide change for $100 bills, so if you have a total fee greater than that please either pay in smaller denominations or bring a check.
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Hey guys! There is a new lunch sideline event for the TJIAT: real life mafia! Because it would be during lunch, we'd order pizza for the participants, so there'd be a registration fee of $2. Participant numbers will be capped at 25 because anything beyond that gets out of control, but anybody will be free to watch. So yeah, please let us know if you want to come.
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Put me down for mafia.
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Heck yeah I will!
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Re: TJIAT (10/17/09)

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Parkersburg dropped this morning, which means that someone else can register. We know GDS expressed interest at one point in bringing a third team, but anyone else who's interested is also free to sign up. Registration is closed on the site, so you can email us at [email protected]. Also, the slots for West Potomac, Seton Hall Prep, and Annandale will only be held until Wednesday, so please register if you are from one of those teams.
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Centennial will not be able to attend due to lack of interest.
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Re: TJIAT (10/17/09)

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Two things:

Thing one: Pretty much everyone except me from our team will be leaving after lunch to go run a cross-country meet or something.

Thing two: As a result of thing one, I will be taking public transportation home. Metro Trip Planner advises walking up to Little River Turnpike and then taking the 29A to King Street. TJ people, is this a good plan, or is there a better way?
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Prof.Whoopie wrote:Thing two: As a result of thing one, I will be taking public transportation home. Metro Trip Planner advises walking up to Little River Turnpike and then taking the 29A to King Street. TJ people, is this a good plan, or is there a better way?
A word of caution: My dad tried doing that once, and he ended up waiting at the bus stop for half an hour before I had to go and drop him off at the Van Dorn St stop.
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Earthquake wrote:
Prof.Whoopie wrote:Thing two: As a result of thing one, I will be taking public transportation home. Metro Trip Planner advises walking up to Little River Turnpike and then taking the 29A to King Street. TJ people, is this a good plan, or is there a better way?
A word of caution: My dad tried doing that once, and he ended up waiting at the bus stop for half an hour before I had to go and drop him off at the Van Dorn St stop.
Yeah, apparently it only comes once an hour, but that's okay with me.
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Prof.Whoopie wrote:Two things:

Thing one: Pretty much everyone except me from our team will be leaving after lunch to go run a cross-country meet or something.

Thing two: As a result of thing one, I will be taking public transportation home. Metro Trip Planner advises walking up to Little River Turnpike and then taking the 29A to King Street. TJ people, is this a good plan, or is there a better way?
If you're honestly worried, I can be at TJ by 3:40. Tournament people: how's the schedule looking, btw?
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This is all assuming 36 teams. We have 35 signed up right now, so if anyone else wants to register please let us know by emailing [email protected]. If we stay at 35, we'll field a house team/scab team so at least we can avoid having byes.

We're starting at 9:00, and registration will begin at 8:00. The plan is to divide the field into 6 brackets of 6 and play a five-game round round robin. Then after lunch we'll take the top two from each bracket, divide those 12 into two brackets of 6, play another round robin, and do a cross-bracket game for final standings. We can do the same thing for the second two and last two teams so everyone gets 11 games; that said, we'll probably have to do something slightly different since I expect at least a few teams to leave early.
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Good luck, guys! Hopefully there will be no repeats of last year's question delivery issues. That almost gave us a heart attack last year. Not good.
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haha Naren, of course quizbowlers ALWAYS finish and send packets to the appropriate people when they're supposed to.
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HSAPQ has been having trouble getting us the questions. Apparently all the questions have been written but their packet randomizer is not working. They may be able to send us the questions for us to put in packets ourselves, but if this doesn't happen very, very soon we may have to cancel the tournament. We'll try to keep everyone updated. Sorry about this.
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You could talk to Sandy Huang about making your tournament a mirror of Dunbar (DAFT). Those packets are ready, and at a first glance, they don't suck.
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So Greyson Lewis just IMed me about it. If everything is a go, I'll send the packets in 10 minutes.
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Everything is a go, and the tournament is on for tomorrow. We are mirroring DAFT; if anyone has an issue with this, please send an email to [email protected]
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lagazzaladra wrote:Everything is a go, and the tournament is on for tomorrow. We are mirroring DAFT; if anyone has an issue with this, please send an email to [email protected]
Alright, packets sent
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Is the switch to Dunbar questions definitely happening?

Edit: Beaten like a government mule.
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What, are you serious? I guess that will do.

Another strike on HSAPQ. Please get it together, guys.
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o.0"
How many rounds of questions are there from Dunbar?
Does that number affect the tournament structure in anyway?

EDIT: omitted stupid question
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wexs883198215 wrote:o.0"
How many rounds of questions are there from Dunbar?
12
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We have received the DAFT packets, and they are indeed the packets we will be using tomorrow. The current schedule calls for 11 rounds and we have 12 packets, so barring extreme circumstances we should have a functional question set for tomorrow.
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Hey everybody, this is kind of important. To the best of our knowledge, none of the teams currently signed up for the TJIAT were also planning to go to another Dunbar mirror. However, if you are and you haven't signed up yet, or if you are and I missed your name, this is an issue. Just a heads up for anybody to whom this might apply.
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Many thanks to Dunbar for letting us use their set on such short notice.
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lagazzaladra wrote:Many thanks to Dunbar for letting us use their set on such short notice.
Glad to help out.

For those attending this mirror: http://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8696
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Huang wrote:
lagazzaladra wrote:Many thanks to Dunbar for letting us use their set on such short notice.
Glad to help out.

For those attending this mirror: http://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8696
If you hear any terrible questions that need to be fixed, be sure to note which round it's in when you email me.
Yes, thanks a bunch Sandy. I do look forward to these questions a lot. I'm sure they'll be a fine replacement for HSAPQ and that the teams will enjoy them. We'll let you know our opinion on the set when we finish.
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Re: TJIAT (10/17/09)

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I'm excited to see that this tournament is totally still happening, and that we'll get a chance to play Dunbar Fall in the Mid-Atlantic.

Re: HSAPQ: Come on now. Finish your tournaments on time. That means finish all the questions, edit all the questions, assign the questions to packets, randomize the packets, and send all the packets by the time that your tournament hosts request them (usually 24 hours before). For professional question vendors, this is non-negotiable. Good questions can't be good if they're non-existent, and not sending a set that you promised to send, by the time you promised to send it, reveals a lack of professionalism. Do whatever it takes to get your stuff together, and stop irritating the people who like your questions the best.

On the bright side, though, it looks like HSAPQ has a near-complete set ready that wasn't going to be used anywhere else (according to http://hsapq.com/tournamentdb/view.php) . Those tournaments which were slated to use Tournament-10 can use this set instead, meaning HSAPQ can spend more time editing and finalizing this set rather than producing a whole new one!
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I'm pretty happy that we get to play the Dunbar set which I probably wouldn't have gotten to play on otherwise, so big thanks to Sandy and Dunbar as a whole.

By the way, I know TJ is probably really busy right now, but could one of you guys explain the tournament's structure? I would imagine perhaps brackets of 6 with round robins there or something like that.
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wexs883198215 wrote:By the way, I know TJ is probably really busy right now, but could one of you guys explain the tournament's structure? I would imagine perhaps brackets of 6 with round robins there or something like that.
EDIT: Actually, just look here.
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Earthquake wrote:
wexs883198215 wrote:By the way, I know TJ is probably really busy right now, but could one of you guys explain the tournament's structure? I would imagine perhaps brackets of 6 with round robins there or something like that.
Six brackets of six, rebracketed into brackets of six (top two in each bracket makes it into top two brackets, etc.) and then a cross-bracket game at the end.
Sounds great. This is the same format that we'll see for the bottom four (in two groups) consolation brackets as well?

It should be a good day.
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Re: TJIAT (10/17/09)

Post by reindeer »

Yes, we want to mirror that format for the second and third tiers. We'll try to get as close as possible, but if some teams decide to leave at lunch it may have to be slightly different.
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Re: TJIAT (10/17/09)

Post by wexs883198215 »

Oops. Didn't look very carefully. Sounds good. Always glad to have 10 guaranteed games :grin:
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