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Please help a newbie.

Post by brenlee » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:40 pm

Hi,

I am coaching a couple of quiz bowl teams at a middle school in Charlottesville, Virginia. What do I need to know? What are some competitions we can train for? What are the rules for Quiz Bowl in Virginia? What materials and systems should I get? I participated in brain bowl when I was in high school and joined Quiz Bowl at the University of Florida. I'm new at coaching and need guidance.

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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by Matt Weiner » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:51 pm

Welcome to the boards. I've been involved in quizbowl from Richmond for some time now, and as far as I know, there is no organized middle school competition in our area of Virginia. One middle school (Longfellow, from northern VA) has attended a high school novice tournament in Richmond. While the alleged "Junior National Academic Championship" is run in Arlington, this is an extremely shady venture run by ethically challenged people and asks most of its questions about Harry Potter and similar nonsense; the word "academic" is sorely misused in its name, and I would urge any team to steer clear of it.

There is no standard set of rules for Virginia high school play; VHSL has a format, the straight tossup-bonus format is used at most Saturday invitationals, the TV shows all use their own formats, etc. Your best bet is to ask individual tournaments for their rules. Due to the lack of any real middle school tournaments, there is no format for that either.

Can you tell us who you've been in contact with so far? Whose idea was it to start a team, and are there any competitions asking you to participate? If there are some more middle schools across Virginia who are ready to form teams, I would be interested in helping out with the organization and question-procuring for a true middle school tournament in the greater Richmond area. Until then, you may be limited to participating in tournaments aimed at 9th and 10th grade players, if your students enjoy a challenge.
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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by Kouign Amann » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:11 pm

Matt Weiner wrote:Until then, you may be limited to participating in tournaments aimed at 9th and 10th grade players, if your students enjoy a challenge.
If you feel you can mobilize quickly enough, the Fall Novice Tournament could be a great experience for your team. It is a low-level high school tournament being held very close to you on October 10th, this Saturday.
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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by brenlee » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:39 pm

Thank you for your reply! I have contacted Matt Clay at Albemarle High, and I am awaiting his reply. I made the pitch to my administrators to start the club. I would be interested in joining a middle school organization.

We start practices this Friday, so, needless to say, we won't be ready for competition this Saturday.

Thank you again.
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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:39 pm

Brenda, welcome to the forums. The greater Richmond area has a lot of dedicated people with quite a bit of combined experience. Count me interested in helping to set up a middle school tournament as well.

You might also want to talk to Patricia Vandever; I believe she is still the coach at Charlottesville HS. Their program has done well for several years now, and I'll bet she has information that she may be willing to share as well.
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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by brenlee » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:00 am

Thanks. I contacted Patricia at Charlottesville High. Any ideas for which question packets would be suitable for 6th to 8th graders?
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Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:01 am

Some of the only middle school sets i've ever seen are online here, made by Bill Tressler and Wilmington Charter School of Delaware for their annual Charter Challenge tournament: http://www.charterschool.org/clubs/acad ... stions.php
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Post by Kouign Amann » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:14 pm

HACOV I and HAVOC II are pretty solid. That's what I read to my middle schoolers.
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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by the return of AHAN » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:41 pm

Prof.Whoopie wrote:HACOV I and HAVOC II are pretty solid. That's what I read to my middle schoolers.
And if/when they're frustrated by things that aren't part of the middle school curriculum, read Junior Wildcat 2009 to them.
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Post by Stephen Colbert » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:43 pm

Max Moon wrote:And if/when they're frustrated by things that aren't part of the middle school curriculum, read Junior Wildcat 2009 to them.
Our of curiosity, is this set posted online somewhere?
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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by the return of AHAN » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:52 pm

Stephen Colbert wrote:
Max Moon wrote:And if/when they're frustrated by things that aren't part of the middle school curriculum, read Junior Wildcat 2009 to them.
Our of curiosity, is this set posted online somewhere?
Professor Wehrman has given his blessing to me sharing it with coaches. I probably should ask him to upload it to Christian Carter, or for him to give his blessing to me to upload it.
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Post by Haaaaaaaarry Whiiiiiiiiiite » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:48 pm

Max Moon wrote:
Stephen Colbert wrote:
Max Moon wrote:And if/when they're frustrated by things that aren't part of the middle school curriculum, read Junior Wildcat 2009 to them.
Our of curiosity, is this set posted online somewhere?
Professor Wehrman has given his blessing to me sharing it with coaches. I probably should ask him to upload it to Christian Carter, or for him to give his blessing to me to upload it.
Just as an FYI, George Berry is now the person you'd want him to get in touch with.
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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by brenlee » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:38 pm

Matt Weiner wrote:One middle school (Longfellow, from northern VA) has attended a high school novice tournament in Richmond.
When is this tournament?

Thanks.
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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by Matt Weiner » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:23 am

brenlee wrote:
Matt Weiner wrote:One middle school (Longfellow, from northern VA) has attended a high school novice tournament in Richmond.
When is this tournament?

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This was the HAVOC tournament at Maggie Walker, which they ran for the past two years. I believe that this year they are running the aforementioned Fall Novice instead.
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:35 pm

Matt Weiner wrote:
brenlee wrote:
Matt Weiner wrote:One middle school (Longfellow, from northern VA) has attended a high school novice tournament in Richmond.
When is this tournament?

Thanks.
This was the HAVOC tournament at Maggie Walker, which they ran for the past two years. I believe that this year they are running the aforementioned Fall Novice instead.
Confirm. We're all too busy to produce another HAVOC this year, unfortunately. Longfellow is attending Whitman's mirror of the Fall Novice Tournament, which is a little later in the season than ours (10/24). I'm not sure how far Whitman is from Charlottesville because I don't understand this whole geography thing, but I figured I'd point it out.
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Re: Please help a newbie.

Post by at your pleasure » Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:45 pm

It's something like two and a half hours, although I imagine that depends on where in Charlottesville you leave from.
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Competitions

Post by brenlee » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:55 pm

Hi. If anyone sees this, are there any updates about upcoming tournaments that my middle schoolers may attend? So far, I've found The Knowledge Master Open and the Thinking Cap Quiz Bowl. If anybody has any experience with the aforementioned competitions, please share. Thanks!
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Re: Competitions

Post by Matt Weiner » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:00 am

brenlee wrote:Hi. If anyone sees this, are there any updates about upcoming tournaments that my middle schoolers may attend? So far, I've found The Knowledge Master Open and the Thinking Cap Quiz Bowl. If anybody has any experience with the aforementioned competitions, please share. Thanks!
Those two you mentioned aren't really quizbowl tournaments; they are more like competitive, computer-based tests. You do them at your own school and don't directly face an opponent. They might be a fun/useful activity for your team to do in addition to quizbowl tournaments, but they are a different sort of thing.
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Re: Competitions

Post by the return of AHAN » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:10 am

Matt Weiner wrote:
brenlee wrote:Hi. If anyone sees this, are there any updates about upcoming tournaments that my middle schoolers may attend? So far, I've found The Knowledge Master Open and the Thinking Cap Quiz Bowl. If anybody has any experience with the aforementioned competitions, please share. Thanks!
Those two you mentioned aren't really quizbowl tournaments; they are more like competitive, computer-based tests. You do them at your own school and don't directly face an opponent. They might be a fun/useful activity for your team to do in addition to quizbowl tournaments, but they are a different sort of thing.
What Matt said. If you're willing to travel to the Chicago area, I'd be happy to extend an invite to the Barrington Invitational Tournament on March 13th, 2010. Out east, though, I don't know what kind of circuit exists for middle school-only tournaments.
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Post by STPickrell » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:35 pm

There's something called the Southside Middle School Conference, with these member institutions. But this, too, is unlike quizbowl as we know it -- students are given 1,200 questions and answers at the start of the year, and are then asked questions from this bank.

Unfortunately, it seems the closest to you is Powhatan. I am in touch with some of the HS coaches I know at these schools' feeders, so if you e-mail me, I can tell you what I find out.

* Powhatan Junior High School
* Halifax Middle School
* Amelia Middle School
* Greensville County (Wyatt M.S.)
* Nottoway Middle School
* Brunswick County (Russell M.S.)
* Central (Charlotte County) M.S.(feeder to Randolph-Henry)
* Bluestone Middle School
* Lunenburg Middle School (feeder to Central-Lunenburg, often known as 'Central' in those parts)
* Parkview Middle School

Also, I am aware of the occasional grade 6-9 tournament in West Virginia.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:03 pm

There are middle school tournaments in WV; I just can't say I've heard of any this year yet.
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