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Decemberist III

Post by Tegan » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:00 am

I sent out official invitations for the Decemberist III today. Some of you may wish to check with your coaches, but I think I invited all of the teams that would/have shown interest in a tournament like this. If I missed someone, let me know ASAP.

Also .... I am in need of moderators who can handle a tournament of this format. I have a few already, but I need some more. If you know of any, have them contact me at Maine South: T_e_g_a_n_at_m_a_i_n_e_2_0_7_dot_o_r_g.

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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Dan-Don » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:08 pm

You've got me as a moderator.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Tegan » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:49 pm

Due to a lack of moderators, we have had to scale the tournament back to 10 teams. If this holds through ... we will play a nine match round robin with advantaged final if needed/half matches if a circle of death.

If we get another moderator, we will go with two pools of six, with the top 2 from each pool advancing to the championship pool ... next two in each to the middle pool, bottom two in each to the last pool. I will likely ask some input from around town about seeding the morning pools to see who appears to be the strongest teams and such.

Entries received for: Maine South, St. Ignatius, Kaneland, WWS, Auburn, Carmel ...

I have had serious interest from five other teams ....

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Re: Decemberist III

Post by David Riley » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:40 pm

My check is in the mail....and yes, I will still respect you tomorrow morning. :grin:
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Dan-Don » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:44 pm

Tegan wrote:we will play a nine match round robin with advantaged final if needed/half matches if a circle of death.
Shouldn't need half-matches. I believe HSAPQ provides 15 packets in a set. That's more than enough.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Boeing X-20, Please! » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:25 pm

Sooooooo, what's the field?
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by jdeliverer » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:52 am

Well we're going, is it going to be only those 10 schools? And do we know format?
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by David Riley » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:08 am

Not sure if this is current, but:

Carmel Catholic
Fenton
Kaneland
Loyola
Maine South
New Trier
Niles North
Rockford Auburn

Not sure who else is coming....Egan can fill in when he gets back from Champaign.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Dan-Don » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:17 am

Carmel and Latin? Cool! I'm glad to see two teams from my former league taking an interest in good quizbowl. First, Septemberist than Kickoffs than this. I know they have league play during Huskie Bowl, but might we see them at NTV/Wildcat/NAQT State/Loyburn and the like?
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by BGSO » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:17 am

Maine South
Auburn
Kaneland
St. Ignatius
Fenton
Lisle
Loyola
Wheaton Warrenville South
New Trier
Latin
Carmel

This is the last I've heard from Tegan.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Tegan » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:11 am

add Winnebago to the list, and you have the field.

Rounds are 20/20 HSAPQ. There will be powers, but no negs.

Two pools of 6 = 5 rounds. Teams are ranked based on record, then PPB.

Top two from each pool advance to the championship pool, carrying over records = 3 more rounds. Likewise, the middle two teams in each morning pool play three more rounds, as do the bottom two from each pool.

I will be consulting mods and coaches this week regarding pool placement. It will certainly not be random. Every effort will be made to make sure the top four teams are evenly split between the two pools.

In the championships pool only: if the winner is two games clear of everyone, the tournament is over. Final placement within the afternoon pools will be based on overall record and PPB. If the winner of the championship pool is within a game of second place, there will be an advantaged final. If there are three teams within a game, we play half rounds in random order to determine a champion.

I will not be coming back here, so any other questions from relevant parties can be e-mailed to me, and I will try and get back to you when I can. Between the tournament and things going on in my classroom this week, things are busy.

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Re: Decemberist III

Post by jdeliverer » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:13 pm

Dan-Don wrote:Carmel and Latin? Cool! I'm glad to see two teams from my former league taking an interest in good quizbowl. First, Septemberist than Kickoffs than this. I know they have league play during Huskie Bowl, but might we see them at NTV/Wildcat/NAQT State/Loyburn and the like?
Dan or anyone else - if you have more information about these tournaments or if there is a topic about them, I'd love to talk to my coaches about going to some of these. I know we aren't going to NTV. There are definitely people on the team this year that are interested in getting Latin on the right track.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by David Riley » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:23 pm

Robert--send me an email (driley@loy.org) and I will send you a doc that describes the various tournaments throughout the state.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Dresden_The_BIG_JERK » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:37 pm

jdeliverer wrote:
Dan-Don wrote:Carmel and Latin? Cool! I'm glad to see two teams from my former league taking an interest in good quizbowl. First, Septemberist than Kickoffs than this. I know they have league play during Huskie Bowl, but might we see them at NTV/Wildcat/NAQT State/Loyburn and the like?
Dan or anyone else - if you have more information about these tournaments or if there is a topic about them, I'd love to talk to my coaches about going to some of these. I know we aren't going to NTV. There are definitely people on the team this year that are interested in getting Latin on the right track.
This is great to hear. When I was playing, Latin was always this mysterious entity that would just kick your butt if you made it to State, but never showed up anywhere else. Awesome for you guys to finally be getting out there!
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Dan-Don » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:37 pm

jdeliverer wrote:
Dan-Don wrote:Carmel and Latin? Cool! I'm glad to see two teams from my former league taking an interest in good quizbowl. First, Septemberist than Kickoffs than this. I know they have league play during Huskie Bowl, but might we see them at NTV/Wildcat/NAQT State/Loyburn and the like?
Dan or anyone else - if you have more information about these tournaments or if there is a topic about them, I'd love to talk to my coaches about going to some of these. I know we aren't going to NTV. There are definitely people on the team this year that are interested in getting Latin on the right track.
Well even if you're not going to NTV, you should drive yourselves (shameless plug) to VIOLATEDD. I'm sure Mr. Riley's document will be helpful too. From what I saw when I read your match against New Trier last weekend, you guys could easily become a very solid team. Might I suggest you guys all use the Aegis questions bot (#scobowl in Slashnet on IRC) for practice and consult the Quiz Bowl Wiki if you're ever confused about quizbowl-related things. These are the things that really helped me last year. And question-writing for practice never hurts either if you consult the Jerry Vinokurov's Writers' Guide. And make sure you attend both nationals (the NSC and HSNCT), as well as college tournaments, if possible.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Tegan » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:59 pm

Auburn High School will no longer be playing this tournament. A team of individual players, PACE Prep, will be competing in their place.

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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Dresden_The_BIG_JERK » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:03 pm

That's quite unfortunate...what happened?
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by dtaylor4 » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:11 pm

Tegan wrote:Auburn High School will no longer be playing this tournament. A team of individual players, PACE Prep, will be competing in their place.
Unless asked otherwise, I reserve the right to create pseudonyms for the individual players.

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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Tegan » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:55 pm

Decemberist rues wrote:Pseudonyms which are any attempt to be cute, funny, ironic, sarcastic, melodramatic, veiled personal attacks, overt personal attacks, or an offense to the Tournament Director's personal and/or professional sense of aesthetics will be summarily rejected.
I for one have no doubt that these players hailing from many locations will play under names which all of us consider reasonable. I think these players, all of whom found out about this rather last minute, have a good sense of quizbowl aesthetics.

If not, they're all yours, bounty hunter.

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Re: Decemberist III

Post by cornfused » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:52 pm

We should name them Siva, Tyler, Colleen, and Michael. Or something like that.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Tegan » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:47 pm

We are into the afternoon here, and I am happy to report that all appears to be running smoothly. The real reason this is running smoothly:

1. HSAPQ gave us a pretty darn good set of questions. Nothing is perfect (it never is), but overall the questions sounded good to me. Through five rounds, there was one protest. As a TD, I am happy with the questions if they were good in the sense of "good quizbowl" and if the players were happy with them ... as far as I can tell, they were happy.
2. Good moderators. I want to issue public thanks and compliments to BJ Houlding, Jonah Greenthal, Nathan Hollinsaid, David Garb, Mike Laudermith, and Greg Peterson. These six mods ran us ahead of schedule, and received numerous compliments from coaches. I could not have asked any more from them.
3. Donald Taylor demonstrates again why he is the best stats man in the business. Donald had stats updated on demand. Sometimes, he even lets me run the tournament.

I would also like to publicly thank Brad Fischer and Kristin Strey for allowing Maine South the opportunity to host this tournament

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Re: Decemberist III

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Re: Decemberist III

Post by jdeliverer » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:47 pm

So who won?
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Boeing X-20, Please! » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:51 pm

jdeliverer wrote:So who won?
1. "PACE Prep" (The Musketeers)
2. St. Ignatius
3. Loyola
4. Carmel

Top scorer in Prelims: Deveau, followed by Aramis ("PACE Prep")
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by jdeliverer » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:05 pm

dtaylor4 wrote:Prelims
link isn't working, at least for me
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by jonah » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:08 pm

Correct stats links: prelims, playoffs
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by David Riley » Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:07 am

Thanks to Mr. Egan for running a great tournament, and to Donoald and the moderators for helping it to run smoothly. It convinces me more that small turnaments (sorry, Jonah! :grin: ) are the way to go.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by Boeing X-20, Please! » Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:48 am

Did you ever get this certified Tegan? It should definitely meet the qualifications as we used a HSAPQ Set, good format, and had some of the best teams in state here. I'm sure PACE Prep would enjoy getting to go to PACE NSC because of this.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by jdeliverer » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:45 pm

Who played on PACE prep?
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by jonah » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:49 pm

PACE Prep consisted of Athos, Porthos, Aramis, and D'artagnan, coached by Coach Richelieu.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by adeveau » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:33 pm

This is pretty irresponsible. Don't do this again. -- Management.
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Re: Decemberist III

Post by dtaylor4 » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:51 pm

jdeliverer wrote:Who played on PACE prep?
This cannot be revealed for various reasons.

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