Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

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Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Thundercougarfalconbird » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:23 pm

La Jolla High School is very excited to announce Rocket Surgery I, an official NAQT tournament for all high school students.

DATE: February 27th, 2010

VENUE: 500 Building of La Jolla High, located at 750 Nautilus St., La Jolla, CA, 92037

SCHEDULE: 7:30-8:30 AM Registration (all teams must be registered by 8:30)
8:30-9:00 AM Moderator Meeting
9:00 AM Tournament Play

FOOD: We will provide breakfast. There are multiple options for lunch near the school.

ELIGIBILITY: Any school that pays the tournament fee is welcome to attend. All players must be in high school.

FORMAT: NAQT Invitational Set IS-92 with untimed rounds. Depending on the number of teams, we may have a complete round robin, possibly followed by a rebracket for playoff rounds.

PRICING: Team Prices and Discounts
$80 per team
$70 for a second team, $60 for any team thereafter
-$5 for a functional buzzer system (four buzzers on each side)

School Discount
-$20 for a school that has not competed in an official NAQT event from July 1st, 2005, to October 28th, 2009.

Minimum fee for a team is $60.

If you cannot have payment for the tournament on competition day, please contact us at least 24 hours before. If you come to the tournament without payment and without warning us of delinquent pay, a $40 fee will be added to the total fee. The payment must then come in 10 business days.

REGISTRATION:
To register, contact Tammy Tran at tamtran1992@yahoo.com if your school is interested in attending. Please include:

1) the name of your school
2) your coach's name and email address
3) the number of teams you are bringing
4) if you are bringing a buzzer system
5) whether you qualify for the school discount

Contact us if you have any questions. We will update the tournament info as often as we can.

We hope to see you there!

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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by LucasBrown » Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:58 pm

It's kind of early for asking this, but how's the field so far?
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Thundercougarfalconbird » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:07 pm

So far we have seven teams signed up. Three from RB, two from Edison, and two from an Arizona school.

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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Joe Romersa » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:24 am

Put down Arcadia as interested for 1-4 teams. Exact number TBD
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by LucasBrown » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:10 pm

Are the Arizona teams from Brophy HS?
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Thundercougarfalconbird » Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:44 pm

Yes, that's right.

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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Thundercougarfalconbird » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:06 pm

Update: Rocket Surgery I is now PACE-affiliated, and the top two teams will qualify for NSC. We'll also be pursuing a gold-level certification.

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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by gyre and gimble » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:19 pm

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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Tammy » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:43 am

gyre and gimble wrote:http://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=9232

Any thoughts?
Having not seen the IS-92 packets, I have no idea if his concerns are founded. I just think he is expressing the same concerns we have about any question packet: distribution, depth, difficulty. Yes, there have been times with NAQT that I've been frustrated with certain questions, but there haven't been so many problems that whole matches and tournaments were affected, and I have felt the same frustration at other tournaments with other packets too. I think we can all agree that no packet is perfect, and we feel that NAQT is at the very least passable and at the very most a good question set.

And as to the rest of his complaints about the tournament, we're going to do our best to run a tournament that we would enjoy playing at. There won't be blurt rules or death glares if you confer during the reading of a bonus, and we will do all we can to address each protest. All the readers and moderators will have been active in quiz bowl for some time, so we will all know how to make sure that players aren't punished for the ridiculous little things that seemed to have happened at this Illinois tournament.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by gyre and gimble » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:47 pm

Sounds good.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Thundercougarfalconbird » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:21 pm

Yeah. Obviously, as a Southern California team that competes regularly in the good quizbowl tournaments around here, we've never even had any experience with the blurt rule at a legitimate (viz., not Academic League) tournament, and we're certainly not going to champion it or any of the other vestiges of bad quizbowl about which people have complaints. We're working to make sure our tournament is run as smoothly and as fairly as possible.

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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by LucasBrown » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:25 pm

What is the blurt rule? I've come across quite a few mentions of it, but I've never come across a definition.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by jonah » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:35 pm

The blurt rule discussed there is that if you buzz in but give your answer before the moderator recognizes you by name, you receive 5 points instead of 10 (if you were correct). Hilariously, this is an improvement over the previous rule, which was that "blurted" answers were simply treated as wrong.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by cvdwightw » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:41 pm

LucasBrown wrote:What is the blurt rule? I've come across quite a few mentions of it, but I've never come across a definition.
Some strange vestige of Illinois quizbowl that came up because one of the first tournaments to use IS-92 used a strange mixture of standard NAQT and Illinois quizbowl rules.

As previously noted, it will not be used at this tournament.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by davud363000 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:37 am

jonah wrote:The blurt rule discussed there is that if you buzz in but give your answer before the moderator recognizes you by name, you receive 5 points instead of 10 (if you were correct). Hilariously, this is an improvement over the previous rule, which was that "blurted" answers were simply treated as wrong.
Unfortunately, in Academic League, blurted answers are still treated as wrong
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Joe Romersa » Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:21 am

davud363000 wrote:
jonah wrote:The blurt rule discussed there is that if you buzz in but give your answer before the moderator recognizes you by name, you receive 5 points instead of 10 (if you were correct). Hilariously, this is an improvement over the previous rule, which was that "blurted" answers were simply treated as wrong.
Unfortunately, in Academic League, blurted answers are still treated as wrong
Same with Science Bowl. Blurt rule screwed me out of tryouts a few years ago.

The worst thing SoCalHSQB has seen in a tournament (in the past 4 years) is single elimination for state champs, where final rankings mattered. There's no reason to think that La Jolla will run anything other than a good tournament under good quiz bowl standards (except for the NAQT distribution thing, but thats not their fault)
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Auroni » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:04 am

Oh yeah, if you need a few extra moderators, some of us UCSD people will volunteer to read. We're all very experienced.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Tammy » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:41 pm

jpn wrote:Oh yeah, if you need a few extra moderators, some of us UCSD people will volunteer to read. We're all very experienced.
Thanks for the offer, Auroni. We'll let you know at the very latest a week before the tournament if we need more moderators.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by deedee » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:58 pm

Tammy wrote:
jpn wrote:Oh yeah, if you need a few extra moderators, some of us UCSD people will volunteer to read. We're all very experienced.
Thanks for the offer, Auroni. We'll let you know at the very latest a week before the tournament if we need more moderators.
And we have some from UCI that are experienced, ready, and willilng :)

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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Tammy » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:08 pm

The current field for Rocket Surgery I is

Arcadia x 2 +two buzzer systems
Rancho Bernardo x 3 +one buzzer system
Orange Lutheran x 1
Brophy Prep x 3 +four buzzer systems
Edison x 2 + one buzzer system
North Hollywood x 1 + two buzzer systems
Torrey Pines x 2 + one buzzer system
Bishop's x 2
Capistrano x 1

If there are any changes that need to be made, please let me know by Saturday. We still have room for more teams as well, so any other teams that wish to sign up should tell me by Saturday too.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Joe Romersa » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:36 am

Arcadia will be bringing 3 teams.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Tammy » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:29 pm

OK, Arcadia is now at 3 teams. The rest of the field has so far stayed the same.

After noon on Saturday, LJHS reserves the right to not allow any additional teams to sign up. Email me or post on this discussion board before noon on Saturday to be absolutely sure that your teams will be in. Any registrations made after that point will be considered but not necessarily honored.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Tammy » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:04 pm

Hey everybody,

Thank you so much for registering for Rocket Surgery I. The field is now closed and is as follows:

Arcadia x 3 +two buzzer systems
Rancho Bernardo x 3 +one buzzer system
Orange Lutheran x 1
Brophy Prep x 3 +four buzzer systems
Edison x 2 + one buzzer system
North Hollywood x 1 + two buzzer systems
Torrey Pines x 2 + one buzzer system
Bishop's x 2
Capistrano x 1
Tustin x 2 + one buzzer system
University x 2 +one buzzer system

possibly: Los Amigos x 1

Overall, 22 (or 23) team field, with the top four qualifying for HSNCT. More information will be sent to the schools via email, and expect to be sent a tournament format by the middle of next week.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by LucasBrown » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:05 pm

Is there a moderator discount?

***EDIT to avoid repost*** RB's delegation will probably decrease to two teams. I should have a firm number by midweek.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Tammy » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:50 am

LucasBrown wrote:Is there a moderator discount?

***EDIT to avoid repost*** RB's delegation will probably decrease to two teams. I should have a firm number by midweek.
Please let us know by early Thursday afternoon because we want to send out final info Thursday night. Also, if RB drops down to two teams, we will not need a moderator from your school.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by LucasBrown » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:04 am

We are now definitely down to two teams. Also, I just got a few emails to the effect of "Hey, it turns out I might not be able to get out of this other commitment Saturday. I should know by Wednesday whether I can go," so this might actually decrease to one team (although this isn't likely). A firm number should be available by Wednesday night.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Tammy » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:21 am

Okay, RB is down to two with a final count pending.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by LucasBrown » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:28 am

RB's final count: 1.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by gyre and gimble » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:03 pm

This was a good tournament. I think it was very well run and I had a lot of fun. Thanks guys.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Tammy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:26 pm

We're glad you enjoyed it, Stephen. To everyone, thank you for coming to our tournament. Stats for players and teams will be up soon, but in the meantime, all comments and thoughts are welcome.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Joe Romersa » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:24 am

Biggest complaint we have were the buzzers, but that wasn't your fault.

I agree with Stephen, great tournament.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Thundercougarfalconbird » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:13 am

And stats are now up. These are combined for morning and afternoon

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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by gyre and gimble » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:15 am

At quick glance, our statline against University A makes no sense. (5/7/10)

EDIT: I think Howon had 0 negs that game, not 9.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Joe Romersa » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:31 am

Can you put the stats into the playoff brackets? Arcadia A did (slightly) better than 11th place.

*edited for more specific*

*edit*
Also, if you repost stats, could you add round report? Thanks.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10

Post by Thundercougarfalconbird » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:58 am

Round report is up now. I'm working to correct any mistakes and to correctly split the rounds into their brackets and divisions; those final split stats will be up in a day or two.

Edit: okay, stats with afternoon brackets are now up.

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