Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

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When would you prefer Penn Bowl Trash happens?

Saturday after Penn Bowl proper
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Sunday
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Either Saturday or Sunday
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Don't plan to play
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Total votes: 24

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Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:09 am

Northwestern's mirroring Penn Bowl on 2/12/11.

GETTING HERE
Matches will happen in Kresge Hall. However, check-in will occur in Harris Hall in the Harris auditorium from 8:00 to 8:30.The address is 1881 Sheridan Rd., Evanston, IL, 60208. Matches will start at 9 or as soon as all teams get there. Once we're in Kresge, tournament central will be room 4-425. Kresge's address is 1880 Campus Drive, Evanston, IL, 60208. Please park in the Lakeside Parking Structure, which is located at 1 Arts Circle Drive, Evanston, IL, 60208. An interactive map can be found here.

HOTELS
If you're spending Saturday night (or Friday night for that matter) in Evanston, I would recommend the Hilton Orrington, which is within walking distance. The Best Western University Plaza is also within walking distance but a few blocks farther.

FEEEEEEEEES!
Post here with number of teams, number of competent moderators, number of buzzers, and other things that might get you discounts such as miles traveled or your club's poorness. This is the fee structure:

Registration fees and other discounts:
Base fee per team: $120
Functional buzzers: -$10 each (This is limited to two systems, or -$20, per school, but schools should bring as many systems as they can.)
Competent moderators: -$10 each (No limit.)
Travel (per school): -$15 per 200 miles (one-way, determined by Mapquest)

Minimum fee per school (including packet discounts): $40

Checks should be made out to Northwestern Quizbowl and brought on the day of the tournament.

PACKETS
If anyone on a team is a college student who has played college quizbowl before 9/1/09, that team must submit a packet to play. Any team, however, can write a packet and get a discount. So, no, high schoolers don't have to write. Guidelines:

Distribution:
Please note this is slightly different from the usual ACF distribution.
5/5 Literature--1/1 British, 1/1 European 500 CE onwards, 1/1 American, 1/1 World (includes classical), 1/1 Your Choice
5/5 History--1/1 US, 1/1 World, 2/2 European, Canadian, Australian (should include 1 classical and no more than 1 Canadian or Australian), 1/1 Your Choice
5/5 Science--1/1 Biology, 1/1 Chemistry, 1/1 Physics, 1 question Math/CS, 1 question Earth Sci/Astro, 1/1 Your Choice
3/3 Religion, Mythology and Philosophy--1/1 of each; should be different religions, mythologies, and philosophy time periods
3/3 Fine Arts--1/1 non-opera classical music, 1/1 painting, 1/1 other (opera, jazz, architecture, etc.)
2/2 Social science, geography--should include at least 1 question from each category (e.g. 2/1 ss, 0/1 geo or 1/1 ss, 1/1 geo but not 2/2 ss)
1/1 Trash, current events
Total: 24/24

All rules regarding packet submission are pretty much consistent with ACF, so see http://acf-quizbowl.com/documents/packe ... p#required for more details. Follow formatting from the ACF website as well at http://www.acf-quizbowl.com/documents/formatting.php. Please e-mail me if you have any questions. The following are applicable deadlines (by midnight PST on the given date i.e. 3am the next day) with all fees added/subtracted from overall registration fees. Packets should be sent to pennquizbowl@gmail.com (NOT padt@dolphin.upenn.edu as in the past--we have no way of seeing this if you send it here) upon completion.

Packet by December 26: -$50
Packet by January 9: -$25
Packet by January 24: +$0
Packet by January 31: +$25
Packet by February 6: +$50

For other info, post here or, better, yet, see the actual Penn Bowl thread.

TOURNAMENT FORMAT
Everyone is guaranteed 11 matches. The prelims will be a round-robin among the teams in two brackets of nine teams each. The three best teams from each bracket (as determined by win-loss record then points-per-game) will advance to the championship bracket, the next best three teams will go to the consolation bracket, and the next best three teams to the second consolation bracket. Please note that, in the playoffs, you will not replay any teams from your preliminary bracket. Prelim matches against teams from the same prelim bracket will be carried over to the playoffs. In other words, two teams may be starting the playoffs 0-2. There are only 13 non-finals packets. Advancement to the advantaged final will be decided by W-L record in the playoffs then PPG in the playoffs.

REGISTERED FIELD
Auburn|1 team|1 buzzers|0 staffers|no travel discount|packets: n/a
Chicago|4 teams|1 buzzer|0 staffers|no travel discount|packets: no penalty, +$90, n/a, n/a
Lawrence|1 team|1 buzzer|0 staffers|no travel discount|packets: +$200
Loyola|1 team|1 buzzer|1 staffer| no travel discount|packets: n/a
Michigan|3 teams|3 buzzers|0 staffers|yes travel discount|packets: -$25, +$10, n/a
Minnesota|2 teams|2 buzzers|1 staffers|2 travel discounts|packets: +$100, -$50
NASAT (Malis/Carbery)|1 team|0 buzzers|0 staffers|no travel discount|packets: n/a
UIC|1 team|1 buzzers|0 staffers|no travel discount|packets: +$25
UIUC|2 teams|2 buzzers|0 staffers|no travel discount|packets: +$50, -$25
WUSTL|2 teams|3 buzzers|0 staffers|1 travel discount|packets: n/a

WAIT LIST


TRASH
Northwestern will also be mirroring the Penn Bowl Trash set the following day. For more info, see that thread.

CONTACT
For simple things, like registering, just post here. For other questions, email me at dandonohue91@gmail.com. For day-of-tournament emergencies, call me at (847) 915-1013.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by cornfused » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:17 am

One team, one buzzer. Maybe a second team.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by cornfused » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:54 am

Any chance that PB Trash will be mirrored on the 13th?
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:56 am

cournfused wrote:Any chance that PB Trash will be mirrored on the 13th?
We'll probably make that call in early January, after we start having practices again, to see what our staffing situation will be like.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Papa's in the House » Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:47 pm

UIUC will be attending this mirror with 1 team, 1-2 buzzers, and 0 staffers.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Auks Ran Ova » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:10 pm

Minnesota will be here with a number of teams to be determined shortly.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by dtaylor4 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:23 pm

I'd prefer the weekend off, but if you are really short on staff for the weekend, I'd be willing to make the trek for both tournaments, provided I can snag a place to crash.

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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Ringil » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:54 pm

Michigan will probably come with 1-3 teams and 2 buzzers.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:59 pm

dtaylor4 wrote:I'd prefer the weekend off, but if you are really short on staff for the weekend, I'd be willing to make the trek for both tournaments, provided I can snag a place to crash.
We'll figure out the staffing situation once school starts again, so look for an email in mid-January.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Lapego1 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:55 pm

Just something to keep in mind, Penn Bowl Trash is written as a full tournament on its own, so unless you only use a subset of the rounds (or TUs only), it might be pushing it to run it after Penn Bowl Saturday.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Edward Elric » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:24 pm

If your not playing Penn Bowl proper, can you still play Penn Bowl trash?
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:07 pm

Edward Elric wrote:If your not playing Penn Bowl proper, can you still play Penn Bowl trash?
Yes.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by eliza.grames » Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:32 pm

Minnesota will be bringing 2 teams and 2 buzzer systems.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by EncyclopediaCDRom » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:32 am

I can enter one team from UIC for your Saturday Penn Bowl mirror. My packet is forthcoming later in January. Once the spring semester begins in a fortnight, I can inquire about interest in your potential Sunday Penn Bowl trash mirror.

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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Charbroil » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:11 am

Two teams from WUSTL, three buzzers, zero staffers. Packet(s) forthcoming.

Just out of curiosity, why the cap on the moderator discount? Do you plan to have a surplus of staff?
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:16 am

Charbroil wrote:Two teams from WUSTL, three buzzers, zero staffers. Packet(s) forthcoming.

Just out of curiosity, why the cap on the moderator discount? Do you plan to have a surplus of staff?
We should be fine on staff. If a team actually plans on bringing two competent mods, maybe I'll change my mind about the discount.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Charbroil » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:32 am

Just to note, the 2nd team is somewhat tentative, so actually, put us down for 1-2 teams--my apologies.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by jready » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:03 pm

Chicago will be there with at least 3 teams, and possibly up to 5. We can bring 1 buzzer system.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:58 pm

I'm going to ask schools to finalize their number of teams by Monday 1/24 so I can start arranging for moderators. This is approximately when I'll officially close the field, which is capped at 24 teams.

An announcement for PB trash, to be held on Sunday, should be coming sometime this week.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:49 am

All right, so the field is closed as is. We'll do full RR +finals. I had to close it due to lack of moderator interest. I'll try to get more local and NU moderators, and I'll lift the limit on moderator discounts in case that helps. If I do get more moderators, I'll let in some number of teams off the wait list (depending on number of mods and packets). Teams will be let in off the list in the order they are on the list, with the exception that preference will be given to teams who provide staff.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Cheynem » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:51 am

The grumpy old man in me is a bit distraught that a mixed HS team of apparently two people is taking up a field spot instead of innumerable collegiate teams on the wait list.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:24 am

Cheynem wrote:The grumpy old man in me is a bit distraught that a mixed HS team of apparently two people is taking up a field spot instead of innumerable collegiate teams on the wait list.
The 7 collegiate teams on the wait list had more than 15 days to claim additional spots. Anyhow, it looks like I'll have at least enough moderators to maybe get to 15, but that also depends a lot on the packet situation. I'm waiting to hear back from Mehdi about that. Of course, I'm also still accepting staffers, but, the only other offer I have is Donald, and I don't have anywhere he can stay.

So, Lawrence B and Michigan B should let me know by Sunday 1/30 if they want these potential spots.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by dtaylor4 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:04 pm

I thought I let you know, but I can't make it on this date. If not, I apologize for the bad timing.

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Post by cornfused » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:44 pm

Dan-Don wrote:So, Lawrence B and Michigan B should let me know by Sunday 1/30 if they want these potential spots.
I'll find out if I'm going to have enough people for a B team on Friday.
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Post by cornfused » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:40 pm

cournfused wrote:
Dan-Don wrote:So, Lawrence B and Michigan B should let me know by Sunday 1/30 if they want these potential spots.
I'll find out if I'm going to have enough people for a B team on Friday.
It's just going to be the one team (funding issues), so bring on the Michigan C!
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Ringil » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:58 pm

Michigan B should be going to this for sure. They are writing a packet at the moment.

We'd of course like to have Michigan C if possible too :)

Also, how come there are 3 Chicago Teams in the field already, but Chicago C is on the waitlist o.o
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:19 pm

Ok, I fixed the Chicago mistake, and I put Michigan C in the field. Currently I have enough staffers to run an 18 team tournament. It should be noted though that many of the scenarios for 15 or 18 would require 14 rounds + finals, and I think many of our NU staffers will not have time to stay for that due to work and other commitments. I'll talk to them at practice tonight, and if that's the case, we might have to try really hard to get to 21 teams. I think that way 3 of 7 into 6/6/6/3 will at least get us out of there 2 rounds earlier. However, 21 teams is also contingent on getting a couple staffers that NIU said they might be able to provide but which are still tentative at this point.
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Post by itsthatoneguy » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:51 pm

Also, we can bring 3 buzzers.
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Post by Dan-Don » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:46 am

Being good on staff (for the time being), I need to know if WUSTL and Chicago want in. Let me know by mid-week, as Auburn very much wants to be added to the field.
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Post by Fucitol » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:33 pm

Bump.

Packet deadline for those who have to write is this Sunday.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by mlaird » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:49 pm

Dan-Don wrote:Being good on staff (for the time being), I need to know if WUSTL and Chicago want in. Let me know by mid-week, as Auburn very much wants to be added to the field.
Are you counting me as staff for Loyola? Because I'll be there, and it would be silly to not use me.

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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:53 pm

mlaird wrote:
Dan-Don wrote:Being good on staff (for the time being), I need to know if WUSTL and Chicago want in. Let me know by mid-week, as Auburn very much wants to be added to the field.
Are you counting me as staff for Loyola? Because I'll be there, and it would be silly to not use me.
I am counting you.

Also, this is a bump for WUSTL and Chicago. Finalize your number of teams by tonight please.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by jready » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:21 pm

Chicago will have 4 teams.
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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:47 pm

We'd like to keep our 2nd team.
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Post by Dan-Don » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:36 pm

All right, WUSTL B and Auburn give us 18, so the field is closed unless another 2 or 3 teams express interest.
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Post by cornfused » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:31 pm

I've got a chance of a B team materializing. If anyone else is interested in joining the field, let me know.
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Post by Edward Elric » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:45 pm

Possibly a UIC B team depending on interest. I'll let you know by tomorrow.
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Post by cornfused » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:01 pm

Edward Elric wrote:Possibly a UIC B team depending on interest. I'll let you know by tomorrow.
OK, I'll ask around on my end.
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Post by Dan-Don » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:52 pm

If Lawrence B and UIC B come, we can field a house team to get to 21. (Unless, of course, another school wants to field the 21st team.)
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Post by cornfused » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:28 pm

Lawrence B is definitely interested.

EDIT @ 5 PM Wednesday: But I need to know pretty soon so I can plan the trip accordingly. I'm leaning toward no, at the moment - UIC folks, if you definitely want in, please let me know ASAP.
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Post by cornfused » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:44 pm

Lawrence is just going to send the A team - logistics would get too tricky otherwise.
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Post by Edward Elric » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:44 pm

Yeah we'll only have 1 team for UIC also.
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Post by Dan-Don » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:43 am

This field is closed. There's a slight chance Auburn will drop. If that's the case, they'll be replaced by a house team.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by EncyclopediaCDRom » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:58 am

UIC will bring its lockout system that worked so well at SCT to Penn Bowl--Northwestern proper and trash. It is in my Rommobile trunk as I write.

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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:37 pm

Everyone should check to make sure that the announcement post accurately reflects the number of discounts for buzzer systems, staffers, travel, packets your team will be receiving so that you can pay us the correct amount on Saturday. If not, post about it ASAP. If you're not sure how much you owe because you received a miscellaneous discount, email me.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Papa's in the House » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:15 pm

UIUC will be bringing 2 buzzer sets.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by abnormal abdomen » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:12 pm

Auburn will be there with one buzzer system.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:46 pm

Dan-Don wrote:This field is closed. There's a slight chance Auburn will drop. If that's the case, they'll be replaced by a house team.
We actually have to drop our second team because we had some players unexpectedly drop. My apologies.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Dan-Don » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:11 pm

Well we're in a bad situation. Brad Fischer was bringing himself and 1-2 moderators, but they canceled this afternoon. Additionally, the only two extra Northwestern people will be leaving around noon because of prior commitments. This means we cannot field a house team without more moderators. If anyone wants this 18th spot, let me know ASAP, or if anyone can supply more moderators, please let me know. Also, if anyone has extra players, we can always make a scab team. Let me know if you have extra players.
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Re: Penn Bowl mirror @ Northwestern (2/12/11)

Post by Charbroil » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:02 am

We have 5 players, so we can provide a rotating staffer or keep our second team if you need us to.
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