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MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:44 am
by evilmonkey
(With lots of copy/pasting from the original MUT thread)

The Quizbowl Club of Notre Dame will be hosting a mirror of the Minnesota Undergraduate Tournament on April 2, 2011. This tournament will be written and edited by members of the University of Minnesota Quizbowl.

Eligibility: Only undergraduate (and high school) students can play this tournament. If you are a grad student, you cannot play this event.

Difficulty: MUT 2011 will be in line with other novice tournaments such as recent incarnations of ACF Fall and past incarnations of MUT.

Registration: If you would like to register a team for this tournament, please email accnd@nd.edu

Costs and other discounts
Base fee: $100
Buzzer discount: -$5
Moderator: -$10
Travel: -$10/200 miles by Google maps

Details:
In an attempt at compromise between the 9:00 and 10:00 start times, we will begin reading round 1, question 1 at 9:30. Because this is a later start than usual, I want to be started promptly at 9:30. To this end, we would like everyone to arrive by 9:15. IMSA and NIU will be arriving by 10, and will be scheduled for a first round match against each other, a game which they will make up during lunch. If you are bringing a buzzer system, please try to arrive a bit before 9:15 so we have time to set up the systems. I would like to have a contact number from each team, so I can call and figure out where you are. If you are running at least 15 minutes late (i.e. not going to be there til after 9:45), you will forfeit your first game. As of right now, we have 11 buzzers for 8 rooms, so it looks like we are in good shape in that regard. However, this also gives me the power to throw in a disincentive for lateness: If you arrive after 9:20, you will only receive a discount for those buzzer systems that are actually used.

Here is a handy reference link to a map of campus. http://www.nd.edu/campus-and-community/ ... us-map.pdf
Check-in and so forth will take place in Hayes-Healy 127. The tournament will be taking place in the Hayes-Healy and Nieuwland Science buildings (on the map, buildings 1082 and 1050 respectively). The closest parking is immediately south of Notre Dame Stadium, in the bigger of the lots marked B1.

Field (16)
Team Illinois (1, 1 moderator)
Chicago (3, 1 buzzer)
Depauw (2)
UIC (1, 1 buzzer)
Illinois (2, 2 buzzers)
Case Western (1, 2 buzzers)
WKU (1, 1 buzzer)
Michigan (2, 3 buzzers)
Northern Illinois (1)
Michigan St. (1)
IMSA (1, 1 moderator)
House (if necessary)

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:53 am
by Edward Elric
I'd like to express interest for UIC. I would have to talk with teammates to finalize this.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:14 pm
by David Riley
Team Illinois for NASAT would like to attend again.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:32 pm
by cornfused
Lawrence will be sending 3-4 teams to either this or the main site - I'm not sure yet.

EDIT: That number depends on the funding situation for the team, too.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:46 pm
by Papa's in the House
If I determine that there's enough money for this, there will be a UIUC team or two.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:08 pm
by Rococo A Go Go
WKU would like to express interest in this tournament.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:36 am
by AlphaRasmus
Count Michigan State as interested.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:58 am
by JackGlerum
We're interested.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:57 am
by swwFCqb
Unless a more attactive mirror site pops up we will probably end up attending this tournament in some form. Put us as interested for now.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:43 pm
by Papa's in the House
I informed Bowling Green about the existence of this mirror of MUT. Hopefully they will sign up for this tournament on their own. Failing that, I urge someone from Notre Dame to get in contact with one of their players and encourage them to come to this tournament.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:55 pm
by cornfused
Papa's in the House wrote:I informed Bowling Green about the existence of this mirror of MUT. Hopefully they will sign up for this tournament on their own. Failing that, I urge someone from Notre Dame to get in contact with one of their players and encourage them to come to this tournament.
There was a new team at Notre Dame's mirror of Buzzerfest last year... I forget who; I'll look it up.


Wooster. Have you guys contacted them? I think Sidney would probably love to bring a team or two to this.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:22 pm
by evilmonkey
After consulting with the other members of the club, we have decided that we ought to initially cap the field at 20 teams. The sole reason for this cap is that we feel at this time that we will not have enough competent moderators to support more than 20 teams. At this point, we obviously have only a single team confirmed in the field. However with a current "interested" list at 11 and several more area teams unaccounted for, I want to ensure that we do not take on a field larger than we can handle.

Because the situation with moderators is one that can be fixed (especially since graduate students are not eligible to play this tournament), the cap should not be viewed unchangeable. If we can get moderators from external sources, the number of teams we permit will increase.

Also, because we have limited the number of teams permitted in the field, I would like to initially limit the number of teams each school can bring to two. Any additional teams from a school will be put on a wait-list. If the field is not full by March 19th, we will begin allowing further teams from each school.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:54 pm
by jonah
Chicago will have at least one team.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:34 am
by David Riley
Both Mike Laudermith and I will attend with Team Illinois, either of us can moderate if needed.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:06 pm
by JackGlerum
We have enough folks for one, possibly two teams, so sign up DePauw for 1-2.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:08 pm
by jmayer
Bowling Green will not be attending this tournament. Turns out this is the same date as our other tournament we had scheduled for April. I appreciate the invite, and I'm sorry that it's not going to work out. Best of luck!

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:34 pm
by itsthatoneguy
Michigan may be attending this with 1 to 3 teams. More details to come.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:38 pm
by Durkheimdall
Indiana is expressing tentative interest. If we can make it to a tournament this semester, this would be the one.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:03 pm
by Papa's in the House
Illinois will be at this tournament with 2 teams, 2 buzzers, and, potentially, 1 moderator.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:58 pm
by Edward Elric
UIC will have 1 team and 1 buzzer set.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:44 am
by swwFCqb
CWRU will attend with 1 team and 3 buzzers.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:59 am
by jready
Chicago has enough interest for 3 teams (with a chance at a 4th), so 2 will definitely be there and you can put the other(s) on the wait list.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:13 am
by Rococo A Go Go
WKU is going to have one team at this tournament. We'll also bring a buzzer system.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:47 pm
by cornfused
Lawrence will have 0 teams - we're going to the main site for sure.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:09 pm
by Dominator
IMSA is considering attending. We'd like to be there, but we're not yet sure if it will work out.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:46 am
by itsthatoneguy
Sign up Michigan with 2 teams (possibly one more, but probably not) and 3 buzzers.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:47 am
by Papa's in the House
We will not be bringing a moderator.
evilmonkey wrote: Interest
Indiana
More Depauw
IMSA
I hope to see these teams at this mirror.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:08 am
by evilmonkey
So, its past March 19th, so Chicago 3 and 4 are now in off the waiting list.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:13 am
by Irreligion in Bangladesh
Bryce, did you get my email?

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:49 am
by evilmonkey
styxman wrote:Bryce, did you get my email?
Sorry I forgot to respond. The response should be in your inbox.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:20 pm
by Dominator
Are there any estimates what times of day this will run? I don't know how college circuit schedules go.

IMSA will attend iff the schedule makes this a manageable one-day trip. If so, we will have one moderator.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:55 pm
by Edward Elric
Dominator wrote:Are there any estimates what times of day this will run? I don't know how college circuit schedules go.

IMSA will attend iff the schedule makes this a manageable one-day trip. If so, we will have one moderator.
This could easily be a one day trip for you guys. The only hastle we will have is that we lose an hour when driving so teams from Illinois and other central time zone schools would have to leave an hour earlier. Besides that I can't imagine this tournament going later than 5 PM especially with quality moderating staff and good TDing.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:01 pm
by AlphaRasmus
It looks like Michigan State is officially in with one team. We might scrounge together another, but at this point it looks doubtful.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:15 pm
by evilmonkey
Dominator wrote:Are there any estimates what times of day this will run? I don't know how college circuit schedules go.
I can't imagine the tournament running past 6 pm ET, and if everything goes according to plan we should be done by 5. As Mike said, the hard part for you guys is the morning drive. We'd like everyone to arrive by 8:30 am ET, for a 9:00 am ET start.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:18 pm
by Dominator
evilmonkey wrote:We'd like everyone to arrive by 8:30 am ET, for a 9:00 am ET start.
8:30 am ET start = 4:30 am CT departure from Aurora. That wouldn't work for us. If the start time were 10 am, I think we could do it.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:26 pm
by evilmonkey
Dominator wrote:
evilmonkey wrote:We'd like everyone to arrive by 8:30 am ET, for a 9:00 am ET start.
8:30 am ET start = 4:30 am CT departure from Aurora. That wouldn't work for us. If the start time were 10 am, I think we could do it.
I personally don't have any objection to a later start. However, those with longer drives may not want to get home any later than they already will. I'll talk to those already registered and see if they would be amenable to a 10 ET start.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:36 pm
by Papa's in the House
evilmonkey wrote:
Dominator wrote:
evilmonkey wrote:We'd like everyone to arrive by 8:30 am ET, for a 9:00 am ET start.
8:30 am ET start = 4:30 am CT departure from Aurora. That wouldn't work for us. If the start time were 10 am, I think we could do it.
I personally don't have any objection to a later start. However, those with longer drives may not want to get home any later than they already will. I'll talk to those already registered and see if they would be amenable to a 10 ET start.
In my experience, a one day quiz bowl trip where I have to wake up before 4 AM just doesn't end well. I would personally prefer the later start time for this (and other) reason(s).

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:08 pm
by Dominator
Okay, so IMSA is officially in, as per a scheduling agreement. If necessary, we also have 2 buzzer systems we could bring.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:59 pm
by jready
Could someone confirm what time this tournament is supposed to begin?

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:58 pm
by evilmonkey
Hey, so this happened today. 16 teams showed up, and we split into two 8 team brackets and played a round robin in each. After 7 rounds, the top four from each bracket advanced and played each of the top four from the other bracket. Playoff standings were based on those four afternoon games, and the three morning games against the other teams advancing from their morning bracket. After those eleven rounds, Michigan A and Team Illinois (HS All-star) stood tied at 6-1. Michigan A defeated Team Illinois in a one-game final, 400-265, to win the Notre Dame Mirror of the Minnesota Undergraduate Tournament.

I'd like to thank everyone who came out and had patience in spite of the various delays. I'd also like to thank Jonah Greenthal, who spent most of his lunch reading for IMSA-NIU, Ben Dillon, who came out and helped moderate, and to the Minnesota Quizbowl Team, who once again produced a great tournament.

Prelim stats are here, and playoff stats are here

One note for the statistics: "Depauw B" is really two players from Depauw and two from Michigan St; "Michigan B" contains some players from DCC.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:44 pm
by itsthatoneguy
Thanks for putting on a great tournament!

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:05 pm
by swwFCqb
Yeah, thanks to Bryce et al. for putting on a pretty solidly run tournament. It was a really fun first visit to South Bend for me.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:31 pm
by jonah
I'd also like to thank the Notre Dame club for doing a great job hosting. I really enjoyed the tournament, and my teammates seemed to also.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:08 pm
by David Riley
Ditto ditto ditto.

We had a great time. A great tournament, thanks again for having us.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:10 pm
by Edward Elric
Same as everyone else, It was a great experience. It was also awesome visiting Notre Dame's beautiful campus for the first time.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:40 pm
by Rococo A Go Go
Edward Elric wrote:It was also awesome visiting Notre Dame's beautiful campus for the first time.
I can definitely concur with this, WKU really enjoyed seeing the sights on campus. As far as the tournament goes, it seemed reasonably well run. It was a bit disorganized at the beginning, but it was well staffed and I have no real issues with how things played out. Thanks for a good tournament.

Re: MUT Mirror at Notre Dame (04/02/11)

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:07 am
by Irreligion in Bangladesh
Things went very well at this great tournament. A hearty thanks to ND!