Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

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Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:37 pm

The Cedar Shoals HS Academic Team will be hosting a mirror of Penn Bowl on March 10, 2012, in Athens, GA. At this time, we are placing an initial field cap of twelve teams. When we get a clearer view of how many readers we'll have, this may go up. This tournament is open to anyone (colleges, alums, high schools, etc.). Email us if you have a question about whether or not your group fits.

This will be the academic half of our Penn Bowl Weekend in Athens, as we will be mirroring Penn Bowl Trash as Tournament by the Sea IX on Sunday March 11th. Details for that are in the Trash section of the board.

Entry fee
Team 1: $125
Team 2: $115
Team 3 and subsequent teams thereafter: $ 100 each
Discounts
Buzzer discount: -$10 per working buzzer set Limit: 1
Distance discount: -$15 per 150 miles traveled one-way (determined by Mapquest)
Moderator discount: -$15 Limit: 2
High School discount: -$55 (only discount they can apply for)
Solo player discount: -$60 (only discount they can apply for)

Minimum fee per team: $95

Format: At the least a 1xRR with advantaged final. (Whatever I can do with 12 rounds)

Here is the link on the board for Penn Bowl in terms of distribution, etc. (http://www.hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewto ... =8&t=12330)

If you have any questions or want to reserve a spot, feel free to email us or post your intent on this thread. (cedarquizjags @ yahoo . com)

Thanks and we look forward to hosting you in Athens.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:50 pm

Field: Confirmed
Ga Tech*
Vitello/Beyer/Platzer/Brown*
UGA 2**
Chattahoochee HS*
Siddarth/Vikram/Rishi/Adil (Hooch Alums)*
Auburn*
Alabama*
Seth Kendall, et.al. 2 teams**
A. Silverman/Naik/Weiler (HS team)*

11 (maybe 12) teams- 11 confirmed
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Dr. Trandel (AM)/ Dr. WIlliams (PM)
Chris Schull
Sarah Harbison
Dren Rollins
KJ Walsh (?)
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by Papa's in the House » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Your minimum fee does not make sense given the discounts offered. A solo player should be able to pay only $65, while a full team should be able to pay only $75 if they bring 1 buzzer, 2 moderators, and travel over 200 miles.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:16 pm

Papa's in the House wrote:Your minimum fee does not make sense given the discounts offered. A solo player should be able to pay only $65, while a full team should be able to pay only $80 if they bring 1 buzzer, 2 moderators, and travel over 200 miles.
Yeah, you're right. I'll fix that. This is why I teach history- math. Thanks.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by 49-Mile Scenic Drive » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:36 am

I think Alabama is going to the WKU Mirror of Penn Bowl, or at least I was informed they were. I won't be able to make that one, but you can consider a contingent from UA-Huntsville interested at this point. The number of people comprising this team is uncertain. For all I know I may come by myself or as a free agent or something.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by Fond du lac operon » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:03 pm

49-Mile Scenic Drive wrote:I think Alabama is going to the WKU Mirror of Penn Bowl, or at least I was informed they were. I won't be able to make that one, but you can consider a contingent from UA-Huntsville interested at this point. The number of people comprising this team is uncertain. For all I know I may come by myself or as a free agent or something.
Tentatively, a team from Alabama is interested in going as well. I don't know if Mark wants to combine teams, or what, but as of now we're not attending WKU Penn Bowl.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by The Ununtiable Twine » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:01 pm

What is it like to be a Batman? wrote:
49-Mile Scenic Drive wrote:I think Alabama is going to the WKU Mirror of Penn Bowl, or at least I was informed they were. I won't be able to make that one, but you can consider a contingent from UA-Huntsville interested at this point. The number of people comprising this team is uncertain. For all I know I may come by myself or as a free agent or something.
Tentatively, a team from Alabama is interested in going as well. I don't know if Mark wants to combine teams, or what, but as of now we're not attending WKU Penn Bowl.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by 49-Mile Scenic Drive » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:56 pm

What is it like to be a Batman? wrote: Tentatively, a team from Alabama is interested in going as well. I don't know if Mark wants to combine teams, or what, but as of now we're not attending WKU Penn Bowl.
Of course if you guys end up sending a team I'll play with y'all. I'm just putting that there in the event Alabama doesn't go.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by 49-Mile Scenic Drive » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:34 pm

It's not looking like UAH will be able to field a team at this and I'm unsure of Alabama's status. Put me as a free agent I guess for now, I'd really prefer to not play this tournament solo.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:30 am

New field update of the interested category.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by 49-Mile Scenic Drive » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:56 am

Assuming he's up for it I'd be more than happy to team up with Mr. Rountree. The chances are looking like I'll be able to go, but I won't be able to 100% confirm until the tell me I've been given that day off from work.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by sonstige » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:06 pm

So after much debate, I dare say Sean Platzer and I will be attending at least the Penn Bowl Mirror portion of this.

EDIT: It looks like we'll have surprise guest Billy Beyer in tow, as well!
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by Fond du lac operon » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:26 am

It's looking less likely that an Alabama team will attend as such, but I'm still interested in attending this -- put me down as a free agent. Anyone interested in me as an addition to their team should PM me.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by The Ununtiable Twine » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:53 pm

Put me down as a free agent for the moment.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:13 am

Field update Feb 14th. If you're in the interested category, let us know if this is going to change. Also, we may take the free agents and form a FA team.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by The Toad to Wigan Pier » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:29 am

Georgia Tech will be there with at least one team.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by sonstige » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:07 pm

Robin --- looks like you missed us (me / Billy / Sean) on your field update. Unless you don't want us to come :O
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:23 pm

Dr. Timothy Tebow wrote:Robin --- looks like you missed us (me / Billy / Sean) on your field update. Unless you don't want us to come :O
Done. Love to have you up.
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Post by jmannor2 » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:12 pm

Auburn is interested.
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Post by CSQuizJags » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:48 am

Field update. A few spots remain.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

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CSQuizJags wrote:Field: Confirmed
Elliott Rountree/Jake Sundberg/Harrison Brown
Jonathan Thompson has expressed interest in joining this team.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by wd4gdz » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:55 pm

I don't think Mark Morris is on our team??? Borglum might join us though, if his wife lets him.
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Post by CSQuizJags » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:58 pm

wd4gdz wrote:I don't think Mark Morris is on our team??? Borglum might join us though, if his wife let's him.
A free agent had offered to join in....I just put him there to remind me. Let me know ASAP if Borglum does join in.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by sonstige » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:22 pm

Yeah, Robin --- I'm waiting to hear back from Borglum definitively. We discussed it Wednesday night, and he said he's thinking about it (particularly if Seth Kendall can be joyously thwarted).

But as Billy rightfully alludes: his wife is the true decision maker in that household.
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As in all happily married households.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by sonstige » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:25 pm

OK Robin --- so Borglum is out. His compassion to give us a chance to answer questions was what convinced him to stay home. He is a generous and humble man like that.

But: We'll likely have either Valencia's Virginia Ruiz or Orlando's own Luke Rego depending on scheduling logistics and such. Needless to say, it's not looking like we'll have a need for a free agent at this time.

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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by The Ununtiable Twine » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:30 am

Dr. Timothy Tebow wrote:Borglum is out.
He can't beat me to Mishima if he's not there.
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Serious Games Showcase and Challenge wrote:
CSQuizJags wrote:Field: Confirmed
Elliott Rountree/Jake Sundberg/Harrison Brown
Jonathan Thompson has expressed interest in joining this team.
I think we had a fourth already, Robin.
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:02 am

He can't beat me to Mishima if he's not there.
Yes I can.
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ValenciaQBowl wrote:
He can't beat me to Mishima if he's not there.
Yes I can.
Dem's fightin' words. :twisted: Will you be at ICT? I think we can settle this little issue there if you're going. Perhaps we can get some people to write up 20/20 Mishima and battle each other?
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:46 pm

Playing Guerilla, dude. Bring it.

And let's up the ante and do 20 toss-ups on Ryu Murakami.
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ValenciaQBowl wrote:Playing Guerilla, dude. Bring it.

And let's up the ante and do 20 toss-ups on Ryu Murakami.
Make that Haruki Murakami and you have yourself a deal.
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Post by Golran » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:03 pm

Chris and Jake, your packet. (Though the match may not be fair since Chris already played it.)
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Post by CSQuizJags » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:10 pm

Now that this has been settled, can we stop it with the email bombings when posts come up? :)

Anyways, it's looking like we'll have 9-11 teams. As i'll be losing 1-3 people for Spring Break, if there's anyone in the greater ATL area who would love to come read, let me know. You would be paid with lunch of some sort (or dinner if you want to do so after the tournament). I'm not talking anything on a Provino's scale, but food nonetheless.

Also, if those who are attending would email me (cedarquizjags at yahoo dot com) soon, that would be great. This way, I can mass send the info email in due time (probably March 4th or 5th). Thanks!
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Golran wrote:Chris and Jake, your packet. (Though the match may not be fair since Chris already played it.)
Nah, I played Guerrilla that year too. I'm talking about having a straight up 20/20 Mishima/Murakami battle with Borglum.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:42 pm

Field update. About ten teams, which is probably our new cap. An email has been sent to all teams. Make sure to reply.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

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CSQuizJags wrote: Free agent team:Jake Sundberg/Harrison Brown/Jonathan Thompson
Now this isn't a free agent team, it's Alabama. :party:
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by sonstige » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:13 pm

CSQuizJags wrote: Vitello/Beyer/Platzer/player TBD
Looks like our "player TBD" is going to be Valencia's CJ Brown.
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:33 pm

Don't you guys let your smoking and cursing rub off on CJ, please.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by sonstige » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:46 pm

I'll make sure to let Billy know ;)
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:10 am

This will be emailed and PMed to as many people as I have contacts for, but figured it also good to post here as well.

At this time, it looks like we'll have 8-10 teams at this event.

The tournament will start PROMPTLY at 9am. Teams can start arriving around 8am. Registration will be in the Grand Commons area of the school just off the main lobby. We'll be using the A200 hallway for competition (If you came to UGA's BARGE mirror, you've played in these rooms). There won't be a formal team meeting, per se, as we'd like to get the tournament started quickly to allow long distance drivers some daylight to drive home by.

At this time, the format looks like a 1xRR with an advantaged final. SQBS will be used for stats. Any other tiebreakers and such outside the advantaged final will be handled at the end IF they come up.

Lunch will be sometime after Round 4 or 5 and will be off campus. There are plenty of options near the high school and lunch will run about an hour. If you need suggestions, please let me know.

If you have any questions about hotels, etc., feel free to email us cedarquizjags at yahoo dot com.

ADD ON: If you're bringing a reader, please let me know. If not, and we have bye rounds, teams may be asked to help read a round.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by jmannor2 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:37 pm

I don't think my team is going to be very willing to pay such a high entry fee for only at a maximum 9 guaranteed rounds. Is there any way where we could be guaranteed at least 9 rounds, hopefully more?
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:25 pm

jmannor2 wrote:I don't think my team is going to be very willing to pay such a high entry fee for only at a maximum 9 guaranteed rounds. Is there any way where we could be guaranteed at least 9 rounds, hopefully more?
Got an idea, Joey? I'm willing to hear ideas. Message me.
Keep in mind the field *may* go to 12 teams which then means 11 games. I'm waiting on two schools to get back in touch with me.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by Fond du lac operon » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:26 pm

CSQuizJags wrote:Got an idea, Joey? I'm willing to hear ideas. Message me.
Keep in mind the field *may* go to 12 teams which then means 11 games. I'm waiting on two schools to get back in touch with me.
If we have fewer than 10 teams, do a round-robin then split into smaller fields, as is fairly standard? I guess if there are precisely 9 teams that could be an issue (since you'd have to split into 3 divisions of 3), but I for one would be happy to play solo or be otherwise re-jiggered to form an extra team assuming I don't bear additional financial burden because of it.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by The Ununtiable Twine » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:47 am

What is it like to be a Batman? wrote:
CSQuizJags wrote:Got an idea, Joey? I'm willing to hear ideas. Message me.
Keep in mind the field *may* go to 12 teams which then means 11 games. I'm waiting on two schools to get back in touch with me.
If we have fewer than 10 teams, do a round-robin then split into smaller fields, as is fairly standard? I guess if there are precisely 9 teams that could be an issue (since you'd have to split into 3 divisions of 3), but I for one would be happy to play solo or be otherwise re-jiggered to form an extra team assuming I don't bear additional financial burden because of it.
A bracket of 5 and a bracket of 4 could work, but then hey we have two bye rounds in the tournament and that sucks. I don't think you should play solo here at any point, especially in bracket play.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:29 am

I have 14 rounds to play with (might as well say 13 in order to have a reserve packet). If we keep 12 teams, that's easy , but having an advantaged final would be tough if someone messes a packet up. If it's 9, it would involve two bye rounds, which would suck. If it's 10, it's a bit easier. I'll figure it out today.

Also, I'm changing the distance discount to reflect the rise in gas. It's now $15 for every 150 miles driven, not 200. I'll adjust everyone's fee accordingly.

EDIT: $15 not $20
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:08 pm

At this time, I still have yet to hear from UGA (so close yet so far, even when you email them), so I have no clue what the format still is. However, with the possible add on of a second Seth Kendall-advised team, we should be now around 10-12 teams.

With that said, we'll still start at 9am on the dot (or close to it) and figure out which format right beforehand. I have schedules for 10-12 teams on standby.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:08 pm

Georgia is in with 2 teams. We're up to 11. At this point an 11 round 1xRR (10 games) with weighted finals (if needed) is looking to be the best remedy. If 2 GT teams come, then we have 11 rounds with weighted final (if needed).
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:52 pm

Top four after 9 round prelim:
1- Georgia Tech (9-0)
2- Vitello/Beyer/Platzer/Brown (8-1) AKA Borglum's Basterdz
3- Adam Silverman/Brady Weiler (7-2)
4- Alabama (6-3)

1 and 2 are playing an advantaged final and 3 and 4 are playing for 3rd as we speak.
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Re: Penn Bowl Mirror (Athens GA) March 10, 2012

Post by CSQuizJags » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:47 pm

Georgia Tech held off Vitello and Co in a two game advantaged final to win with an 10-1 record. Full stats are forthcoming.
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