Re: The 2013-14 Tournament Schedule
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:10 pm
The logical date for our tournament, or at least the Chicago site, is March 8th, 2014.
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It will be on November 23, the weekend that used to be MO in the past. Announcement coming today.RyuAqua wrote:Updated the 1st post with all publicly-available current information.
Jerry, do you have any updates on when your crazy open will be?
As Kyle said upthread, January 25 is when we are planning on running Oxford Open. Obviously it won't have massive draw due to travel costs and such, but we would certainly welcome it if a few American teams would like to make the trip to play. Last time Chicago sent two teams and Harvard sent one. I imagine, though, that there would be little interest in American mirrors (which aren't something we've really discussed, anyway) due to (a) the inexperience of most of the editors, except Kyle, and (b) the British content.RyuAqua wrote:To me, it seems as though there is now only one spot left for a tournament to fit in the calendar without risking overcrowding - something that runs from like January 18 to February 1 in various regions?
I personally wouldn't be opposed to writing with Maryland if it increases the probability that the set would be heavily mirrored. If such an arrangement does go through, I would like to acronymize the set as TWIT.RyuAqua wrote: Maryland, Berkeley: Do you have any more thoughts about Terrapin and WIT? I'm personally unsure that the schedule has room for two more separate events. Would either school be averse to combining?
The Two Hearts of Kwasi Boachi wrote:I realize it's still July, but is Terrapin or WIT happening again?
Tanay wrote:WIT will return. Perhaps that can be the late January event.
We are much less certain of WIT's vaunted return than we previously were.perlnerd666 wrote:The Two Hearts of Kwasi Boachi wrote:I realize it's still July, but is Terrapin or WIT happening again?Tanay wrote:WIT will return. Perhaps that can be the late January event.
I don't think this is true at all. We can and will make WIT happen. Last year, it was nice to get the community's input about the event preferably being a collaborative packet submission tournament and not a housewrite. We'd appreciate similar insights this time around and would be happy to work on this set with collaborators, in addition to taking other necessary steps to accommodate the schedule and minimize any...Woe from WIT.List of Fighting Spirit characters wrote:We are much less certain of WIT's vaunted return than we previously were.perlnerd666 wrote:The Two Hearts of Kwasi Boachi wrote:I realize it's still July, but is Terrapin or WIT happening again?Tanay wrote:WIT will return. Perhaps that can be the late January event.
I'm obviously in a weird position to comment on "desire for WIT to exist", but looking through the WIT discussion, just about everyone said they enjoyed playing it and it was repeatedly compared favorably to other regular-difficulty sets from the same season. We'd welcome any collaborators on something similar this year, and could definitely work with the idea of a January collaborative packet-sub. Barring that, I'm also intrigued by the possibility of writing something explicitly targeted as "slightly easier than regular difficulty", for a couple of reasons. First, there isn't really a tournament for the audience that prefers this difficulty between ACF Fall in October and MUT in April/May (I consider DII SCT to be markedly easier; maybe I'm wrong). Second, as Matt points out, a full regular-difficulty set is a hefty endeavor (though I would contend that I've been involved in enough projects in the past to make this work), so I'm happy to work on something like this, which seems more appropriate for a young Berkeley writing team. Third, most people considered WIT a bit easier than "regular" last year anyway.RyuAqua wrote:So it's been over three months since anyone from Maryland said anything about Terrapin on the boards, and the last we heard from Berkeley was an intra-team disagreement. Is Terrapin happening? Which Maryland people would be editing? Is there still desire for WIT to exist? Would the two events want to collaborate? (For the sake of the community input that Tanay requested: My opinion is that a collaborative packet-sub event in late January, before SCT, is probably the best hope of getting enough packets and viable sites; I worry that you guys at Berkeley would have a lot of trouble house-writing or editing a tournament on your own.) Are there other people who thought about collaborating with or joining a tournament project at that late January time? Last year, both WIT and Terrapin suffered smaller fields and got fewer packets submitted because they were announced very late in the game.
What about MFT?Tanay wrote:First, there isn't really a tournament for the audience that prefers this difficulty between ACF Fall in October and MUT in April/May (I consider DII SCT to be markedly easier; maybe I'm wrong).RyuAqua wrote:So it's been over three months since anyone from Maryland said anything about Terrapin on the boards, and the last we heard from Berkeley was an intra-team disagreement. Is Terrapin happening? Which Maryland people would be editing? Is there still desire for WIT to exist? Would the two events want to collaborate? (For the sake of the community input that Tanay requested: My opinion is that a collaborative packet-sub event in late January, before SCT, is probably the best hope of getting enough packets and viable sites; I worry that you guys at Berkeley would have a lot of trouble house-writing or editing a tournament on your own.) Are there other people who thought about collaborating with or joining a tournament project at that late January time? Last year, both WIT and Terrapin suffered smaller fields and got fewer packets submitted because they were announced very late in the game.
I hadn't seen the announcement for that. Thanks for posting about it. It looks like MFT will generally be run in October and November, meaning that there'd still be space for this.Charbroil wrote:What about MFT?Tanay wrote: First, there isn't really a tournament for the audience that prefers this difficulty between ACF Fall in October and MUT in April/May (I consider DII SCT to be markedly easier; maybe I'm wrong).
I feel WIT was a bit easier than "regular" in that it used easier clues than most regular-difficulty tournaments, as Auroni discussed in the tournament discussion thread.In addition, WIT came in a season that had both VCU Closed and Regionals, both of which skewed harder than "regular" difficulty in many peoples' minds, so it seemed easy by comparison (the stats from these tournaments bear this out as well).Tanay wrote:Third, most people considered WIT a bit easier than "regular" last year anyway.
No. As head editor, I wanted it to reflect what I thought regular difficulty should be like. People are saying it was easier than regular because it was easier than the norm.Cheynem wrote:Wait, WIT was easier than regular?
I too would like to see this (potential) tournament called "TWIT."gyre and gimble wrote:I think there's a strong argument for keeping WIT/TIT at regular difficulty. In particular, making it an easy/sorta-easy tournament leaves just one regular difficulty tournament for the spring semester (Regionals) plus SCT DI. I forget how crowded last year's schedule was, but it did have three additional regular difficulty events (VCU Closed, WIT, TIT) so I think it's good to keep at least one of those around. And considering that there are only two regular difficulty events scheduled for the fall, lowering the difficulty for WIT/TIT would actually leave us with more sub-regular events than regular ones over the course of the whole season.
And speaking of VCU Closed -- has the set been posted yet?
A month or so later, are there any more concrete details about this? In particular, it's probably good to announce whether this will be packet-submission or not shortly, since a late January/early February tournament would ideally start accepting packets in mid-November and lead time on preparing for that is nice.Brian McPeak wrote:I can say that Maryland does plan to write Terrapin this spring. I need to talk to my team regarding combining with Berkeley, but we'll figure out what we are doing and let people know in a more timely manner this year. If people on Berkeley want to talk about details, they should send me an email at [email protected]
Brian McPeak wrote:Okay, so the spring semester tournament SUBMIT will be happening in that late January spot. There will be an official announcement tomorrow.
I am not sure I see the problem here.Renesmee LaHotdog Voight wrote:Can't you just be straight with us and put up a full announcement tomorrow? (I mean, "Maryland and Berkeley [or whatever] are writing a spring invitational for the late January spot, a complete announcement will be coming tomorrow." would suffice!)
Not to be too pushy, but are there any important updates on this?Ukonvasara wrote:MUT will be running again, in roughly the same time frame as last year (mid-March through April).
Look for an announcement thread shortly!gamegeek2 wrote:Not to be too pushy, but are there any important updates on this?Ukonvasara wrote:MUT will be running again, in roughly the same time frame as last year (mid-March through April).