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VCU Open/second summer open this year

Post by Matt Weiner » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:57 am

This is an interest check on whether people might be willing to produce one or more of several tournaments. VCU will not be doing a traditional VCU Open this year (that is, we will not be writing an entire tournament in-house). However, any of the following options are on the table:

*Some VCU-affiliated people collaborating with multiple other writers on 1 or 2 tournaments. The most aspirational goal here is something like a more idealized 2010 VCU Open series (2 full tournaments of different difficulty with 10 or more total writers working on them, so that each person contributes about 3 packets' worth of material). If the right writers can't be found to do 2 tournaments, then maybe just 1. If you would be interested in working on such a project, post here.

*A packet-submission event. I'm willing to supervise this with a science editor and a packet-screening approach to ensure that most of the material is usable out of the gate. Fees will be adjusted accordingly (that is, you will pay less if you are a writing team and more if you want to play but aren't deemed to be experienced enough to write a packet). This could take the form of a normal event or something experimental, e.g. using NAQT format or something even more exotic at a summer open difficulty level.

If we do either the second option or the 1-tournament version of the first option, then the second day will be opened up to any side events people may be working on, and to a return of Tricontakaipentagon.

This will be held in the first or second weekend of August, as is traditional. What would people like to see/be willing to travel to Richmond or one or two mirror sites for?
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Post by Mike Bentley » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:00 am

I wouldn't mind helping out with Option #1, although my contribution would be relatively limited (let's say around 2 packets worth of questions).
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Post by vinteuil » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:14 am

I'd be very interested in playing the former.
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Re: VCU Open/second summer open this year

Post by Habitat_Against_Humanity » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:21 am

I'm interested in playing the first and possibly the second, but most likely only if the final product is mirrored nearby (either Ann Arbor or somewhere in New England).
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Post by 1992 in spaceflight » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:26 am

I'd be interested in working on the first tournament option.

EDIT: I would probably be interested in contributing freelance questions as well if you go with the second option.
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Re: VCU Open/second summer open this year

Post by Muriel Axon » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:38 am

I could contribute to the first option, and otherwise might play if it were mirrored in the Great Lakes area.
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Post by Periplus of the Erythraean Sea » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:54 am

I'd be interested in a packet-submission tournament, since I'd like to play tournaments this summer (due to not being in the country to play regular fall tournaments). I'd prefer something around the difficulty of BARGE or VCU Open 2011, i.e. regular-plus, but not quite as difficult as 2010 or 2013 VCU Open.
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Post by Sima Guang Hater » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:55 am

Option 2 would be a lot of fun. It'd be nice to have something a little crazy (NAQT format + lightning rounds or something); you could even make it guerrilla and I'd probably still go
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Post by Frauny Von Smiley » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:33 pm

I'd be very interest in playing option 1, but I'd be willing to help write anything if needed.
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Post by Ndg » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:43 pm

I would be interested in playing any of these things, especially if it was the second weekend in August.
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Post by theMoMA » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:26 pm

Would people be interested in converging on the west coast for a mirror? I really enjoyed when the bulk of quizbowl traveled to Stanford for Cardinal Classic, and it'd be fun to do something like that again.
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Post by Important Bird Area » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:42 pm

Should a Bay Area site exist, I would prefer the second weekend of August to the first.
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Re: VCU Open/second summer open this year

Post by Mike Bentley » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:41 pm

As someone living on the West Coast I'd be thrilled to have a big West Coast tournament happen again.

I'd even be happy to host something in Seattle provided people wanted to fly out, but the Bay Area seems like it would be a bigger draw.
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Post by Auroni » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:56 pm

Depending on how interesting a West Coast mirror field loooks, I might drive up.
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Post by Gautam » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:29 pm

theMoMA wrote:Would people be interested in converging on the west coast for a mirror? I really enjoyed when the bulk of quizbowl traveled to Stanford for Cardinal Classic, and it'd be fun to do something like that again.
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Post by nadph » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:00 pm

We could probably find rooms for such a mirror; I'm looking into the details of this right now.
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Post by No Rules Westbrook » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:47 pm

I'd be willing to travel to any given site if there were a half-decent field (west coast seems like a fun idea).

I am working on a project for quizbowl right now, but it won't be ready in time for this, so I can't offer any help in terms of writing or editing (other than writing part of a packet, if it's submission)
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Post by grapesmoker » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:39 pm

I'm open to something but only on the second weekend of August.
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Post by Magister Ludi » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:07 pm

I'd be interested in playing a Bay Area mirror of this tournament.

And if people were flying out for a West Coast tournament I've always wanted to have a big quizbowl party at my dad's house on a hill in the wine country if people wanted to come out a day early.
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Post by Adventure Temple Trail » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:15 pm

I'd be interested in playing this, but probably would not fly out to the Worst Coast to do so. I might be willing to write, depending on how many of my long-stored hard/Creative question ideas are workable and how much fun I'd have making them happen. (That said, I'd prefer the wackiness of such a tournament be distributional -- i.e. more Your Choice and Thought that usual -- rather than lightning rounds or anything.) Check back with me in a month or so.
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Post by grapesmoker » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:16 pm

Magister Ludi wrote:I'd be interested in playing a Bay Area mirror of this tournament.

And if people were flying out for a West Coast tournament I've always wanted to have a big quizbowl party at my dad's house on a hill in the wine country if people wanted to come out a day early.
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:13 am

I'd be down for mirroring such a tournament at Valencia in Orlando, which would help enrich the writers.
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Post by naturalistic phallacy » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:01 pm

grapesmoker wrote:
Magister Ludi wrote:I'd be interested in playing a Bay Area mirror of this tournament.

And if people were flying out for a West Coast tournament I've always wanted to have a big quizbowl party at my dad's house on a hill in the wine country if people wanted to come out a day early.
I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Post by Gautam » Fri May 02, 2014 12:50 am

I know it's only been a week, but is there any movement on this? I'd love to know soon so that I can make travel plans for August.

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Post by Muriel Axon » Fri May 09, 2014 6:28 pm

I think it's fair to presume most people are interested in having a second summer open. So can we do a poll to determine which option people prefer? We really need to get moving on this if it's going to happen.
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Post by Tanay » Fri May 09, 2014 6:59 pm

Berkeley is another potential host for this.
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Post by Matt Weiner » Tue May 13, 2014 5:02 pm

If this is going to be centrally written, we will need a core science writer.
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Post by ezubaric » Thu May 15, 2014 12:06 pm

Matt Weiner wrote:This will be held in the first or second weekend of August, as is traditional. What would people like to see/be willing to travel to Richmond or one or two mirror sites for?
We've been looking for a venue to demo our quiz bowl-playing robot. We missed the boat on the national competitions, but this sounds like a good venue if it happens.
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Post by Matt Weiner » Wed May 28, 2014 11:10 pm

I haven't heard much response to my attempts to get someone to write science for this. What do people think about a tournament with very little science in each packet? The alternative is probably not doing a full-scale tournament at all.
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No science? :party:
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Post by Windows ME » Wed May 28, 2014 11:21 pm

Matt Weiner wrote:I haven't heard much response to my attempts to get someone to write science for this. What do people think about a tournament with very little science in each packet? The alternative is probably not doing a full-scale tournament at all.
I'd be willing to edit science. My schedule between now and then has cleared up significantly.
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Matt Weiner wrote:What do people think about a tournament with very little science in each packet?
yaaaaaaaaaay!
Partido Galeguista wrote:I'd be willing to edit science.
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Post by Adventure Temple Trail » Thu May 29, 2014 1:40 am

I'd be happy to play either a tournament with very little/no science or a fully-scienced tournament. I imagine, predictably, that science players would be far less happy with the latter outcome.

Is there a fully-assembled non-science writing corps at this point (i.e. without me on it)?
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Post by grapesmoker » Thu May 29, 2014 4:18 pm

While I would obviously prefer science (mostly to spite Rob) I'm happy to play a summer open with no or little science as well.
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grapesmoker wrote:(mostly to spite Rob)
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Re: VCU Open/second summer open this year

Post by vinteuil » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:23 pm

Partido Galeguista wrote:
Matt Weiner wrote:I haven't heard much response to my attempts to get someone to write science for this. What do people think about a tournament with very little science in each packet? The alternative is probably not doing a full-scale tournament at all.
I'd be willing to edit science. My schedule between now and then has cleared up significantly.
I too need to seriously edit my travel plans depending on when this tournament happens, so it would be really great if we could have any more details about a) timing b) the nature of the tournament.
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Post by Matt Weiner » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:34 pm

The tournament will be held at VCU on August 2, with mirrors on that date based on people e-mailing me asking about them. It will contain 15 centrally written packets. There will be side events on August 3. More later.
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:00 am

What's the goal difficulty going to be? If it's "regular difficulty" or even a bit harder (but not any harder than that), I think we might like to mirror for CC players and free agents in Orlando on August 23.
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Post by magin » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:52 pm

Hey, so people have asked about playing Imaginary Landscape no. 2 at VCU Open. Would there be interest in that? The tournament is very nearly all edited, and should be done well before August.

Matt W. told me that a Sunday slot was still available after the Texas tournament; would that work for interested players? Let me know.
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Post by magin » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:47 am

magin wrote:Hey, so people have asked about playing Imaginary Landscape no. 2 at VCU Open. Would there be interest in that? The tournament is very nearly all edited, and should be done well before August.

Matt W. told me that a Sunday slot was still available after the Texas tournament; would that work for interested players? Let me know.
It appears that no one is interested in playing this, so I'll probably postpone this tournament until next summer.
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Post by Cheynem » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:49 am

Did you reach this conclusion by no one posting in a two day span? I'd certainly be interested, but I didn't notice this post.
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Post by magin » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:52 am

That's true; maybe I assumed more awareness than actually exists. Should I make a separate thread?
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Post by Mewto55555 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:19 pm

I saw but neglected to post for some reason -- I would certainly be interested if a Chicago contingent came down.
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Post by Frater Taciturnus » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:31 pm

I probably will do even worse than I did on the first one but would still be up for this.
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